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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: I'm still looking at their reply of 12.Re1. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: <Finally, 11...e5 12.Re1 doesn't seem to present any immediate tactical threats.> I do not see immediate threats either, but it looks like a good move. The best I came up with here was maybe 12...Bf5. My reasons: Gives more scope to the bishop, which can then be backed up to g6 if needed there. Frees up more space for the king and the queen. Possibly put the queen on d7 later, so our rook can come over, or possibly even then provides another out for our king if needed. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | RonB52734: <Robin01> Excellent. Then we're completely set for me to announce ...e5 tomorrow morning. The only remotely plausible candidate replies we haven't explicitly discussed are 12.Qd5, 12.Nd5 and 12.Qb3. None of these seem to hold any immediate threat. I'd say we've weathered the first storm. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: 12.Bg5 presents us with more problems. We cannot block with 12...Be7 because white will just play 13.Bxe7, and then after we recapture (either with queen or king), white can sink his knight into d5 with a tempo gain. I do not think this is good for us. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: On 12.Bg5, I believe we need to play 12...Qa5 and move our queen out. This should be good. We can maybe then put our queen's bishop on e6 to stop the knight from coming into d5 and to also give our king another escape should the king need a square. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: After 12.Bg5, 12...Qa5, the bishop move to e6 is possible because white's knight can longer go to g5 because the bishop is there. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: The d5 square is weak so we need to be careful of it. We might not be able to stop white from occupying it, but let's not let them gain a tempo on it. |
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Jan-16-06
 | | WannaBe: I think this line has not been covered, and I am quite concerned about this one... 12. Bg5 Be7 13. Ne4
the response can be d5, but Qxd5 will solve that.
The other move is 13. Nd5 followed with 14. Bxe7 Qxe7 Nc7+ These are the ones I went though tonight, as mentioned earlier, d6 pawn is not currently supported, white squared bishop is blocking queen support. Now, if 12. Bg7 Qc7 (Not Qc8, don't want to block a8 rook) it very well will present other issues. I have not looked into this line yet. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: On 12.Qd5, I believe we can just develop with 12...Be7, because the g5 square is then covered sufficiently. I think we are okay if white plays 12.Qd5. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: I think we need to play 12...Qa5 if white plays 12.Bg5 <see my note above> I believe 12...Be7 is not a good mvoe for us after 12.Bg5. Anyhow, we still do not know how they will respond to 11...e5. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: I'm going through some answers for white to our 11...e5 and presenting my thoughts and ideas. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: <11...e5 12.Bg5 Qa5 13.Ne4 d5(!)> Yes!! |
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Jan-16-06
 | | WannaBe: Okay, great work people! Thanks for looking at that line differently than I did. =) |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: On 12.Nd5, I think we can also play 12...Qa5, and then possibly think of bringing our knight back to e7 to attack the d5 square again. I think we are okay if they play 12.Nd5. We cannot stop that, but at least they do not take the square with a gain of tempo. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | RonB52734: 11...e5 12.Bg5 Qa5 13.Ne4 d5(!)
(I went back and deleted my "NOT Qxd1" because I had my glasses on sideways lol). |
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Jan-16-06
 | | WannaBe: Counselor, it's getting late over there in Pit. PA. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: I've been looking at this for about an hour and a half now. That is what's nice about this type of chess versus OTB, is you can devote much more time to studying the position and analyzing it. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | RonB52734: <WannaBe> Again, applying Robin's improvement to another of your challenges: 11...e5 12.Bg5 Qa5 13.Nd5 and I think we're fine |
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| Jan-16-06 | | Robin01: On 12.Qb3, I think we can play 12...Qb6. The trade of queens is okay, I believe. We get doubled pawns on the queen side, but our majority (passed pawn) is not effected by the queen side pawns. Also, if white losses his queen, then I think our extra pawn is even better for us. |
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| Jan-16-06 | | RonB52734: right-o |
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| Jan-17-06 | | refutor: who's the other side? |
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| Jan-17-06 | | RonB52734: <refutor> see <me to play>'s chessforum; that's where the game is going on. his profile lists the teams. There should be a link to it in <WannaBe>'s recent kibitzing list. |
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| Jan-17-06 | | RonB52734: Here: User: me to play |
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| Jan-17-06 | | Robin01: I see we have no move yet from the white team. |
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Jan-17-06
 | | WannaBe: must have confused the bejeezes out of them. =) |
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