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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: If 19.Nb5 Rc8 20.Nxa7, we really don't want to play 20...Nxa7 because it opens the light-squared diagonal for a Queen-check. This would allow, for example, 21.Bxa7 e4 22.Qb5+ and White can escape the fork and nets a pawn. How about this?
19.Nb5 e4 (bear with me, folks) 20.Nc7+ Kd7 21.Nxe6 exd3 22.Nxg7 Bf6 perhaps even winning a piece. Think about it. Prove me wrong. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: I like this a lot. If they move 19. Nb5 and we follow 19 ...e4 and they see it coming, then perhaps 20.Qd1, now the whole dynamic of fxe5 is gone, so we can simply retreat to Qd7. if they retreat with 20.Qc2, then we can cover c7 with 20...Kd7 without risking the check that was mentioned earlier. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: In fact, I think with any Queen retreat by White, we can cover with the King-move because fxe5 is no longer possible, even if the White Queen remains on the d-file. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: In any event, here's the current position, with White to play: click for larger viewBy the way, in my earlier line 19.Nb5 e4 20.Nc7+ Kd7 21.Nxe6 exd3 22.Nxg7 Bf6, White can play 23.Nf5 and we can't simply play 23...Bxb2 because of 24.Rb1. However, we have a nice position and the initiative after 23.Nf5. I wouldn't mind returning their pawn to get this position, particularly with the bishop pair. |
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Jan-25-06
 | | WannaBe: White has not yet posted their move, this is the 'doldrum' time that I hate. White has no direct/immediate attack, sucks to sit here and try to go through all possible white's moves. Easier just to wait for the move then decide how to counter and the consequences there of. =( |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: I see all is quiet. We have them thinking again. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: If they play 19.Nb5, I believe 19...Rc8 is a much better move. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: But I will not analyze it anymore until we see what they play. |
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Jan-25-06
 | | WannaBe: We got some action. =)
19. b3 was played.
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Jan-25-06
 | | WannaBe: Okay, what's going on here, what is white trying to do with b3... we can play a6, get the pawn to a white square, then activate a8 rook. This also prevents white's knight b5 square. This would leave b7 pawn unprotedted by anything, but currently no piece(s) is/are attacking it. Is white planning a queen-side attack?
We can also play Bg6 and chase the queen around some more. That bishop currently on f7 isn't doing anything... Choices, choices... |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: Moves that I like (this is not a sequence, these are candidate moves for 19...): Bf6. a6. d5. g5. Bg6. Rc8. No time to analyze right now... Starbucks is calling. I think we should probably move before midnight. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: I see 19.b3 as simply preventing 19...Qc4, which was one of our potential next moves. I don't see it as preparing either 20.a4, or 20.Qc4, neither of which seems too strong. Other than that, it doesn't seem to present any immediate tactical considerations. It weakens their N + R, which happen to be on the same diagonal. It gives us time to improve our position. I'm happy. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: <I see 19.b3 as simply preventing 19...Qc4> I agree. I will have no time to analyze this until this evening. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: Please look at the proposal for a new time control on <me to play>'s page and let me have your votes on that, too. I vote "yes." |
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Jan-25-06
 | | WannaBe: I vote yes. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: I don't see any quick way they can put us in danger that doesn't involve that b5 square. Thus, I think we have the time, and every reason, to play a6. And as <WannaBe> points out, that frees up the a8 Rook. I like it. It constricts them and frees us. Besides, I like their Q right where it is right now, and I think our R's are our worst-placed pieces, and b5 is our biggest sore spot. So, I'm leaning heavily toward a6. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: I vote yes on the time proposal. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: I agree that 19...a6 looks pretty good. However, I would like time to analyze it later this evening. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: <Robin01> <more time to analyze it this evening> Me too. I'm going to go have some dinner and then put it on a chessboard. I think this would be the wrong time to rush anything. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: (a) ...d5 is no good because it weakens the e-pawn. 19...d5 20.fxe5 Nxe5 21.Qb5+ is big trouble. There's that b5 square again. (b) ...Bf6 probably prompts something like 20.Ne4, and then that Bishop isn't where we want it to be after all. The diagonal is tempting, but I think there's better. (c) ...g5 is attacking but not particularly developing. I don't think our pieces are positioned yet for that attack. Besides, White has 3 pieces defending g5. We only have 2. (d) ...Bg6. Two problems here. First, I don't want to drive their Q from her perch. I like her right where she is. Second, I'm a little concerned what happens on Qb5 in this position. And finally (e) ...Rd8. Premature. Allows Nb5 with tempo.
Th-th-that's all, folks, I'm votin' for a6.
By the way, moving our Knight is just out of the question because of Qb5+, forking the b7 pawn as well as, probably, our Knight. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: I have looked at the position. 19...a6 looks good. I vote for 19...a6 also. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: 19...Rc8 might be worth considering, but I still think I like 19...a6 better. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | RonB52734: <Robin01> Don't give up on Rc8. I agree it's interesting. I think it's even more interesting after a6 and then something else to drive the Q away from defending that N. Without a6, the N can escape to b5. With a6, we may be able to drive both Q and N to worse squares. Ok, 2 votes are in, both for a6. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: I like our position. Our one main weak point, I believe, is that our king is stuck in the middle for right now. |
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| Jan-25-06 | | Robin01: If we can somehow get the queen's off and maybe another piece or two, however, the middle of the board might turn out to be a good place for our king. |
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