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Oct-31-17
 | | chessgames.com: <alan517: Hi, I just started using the Analysis Laboratory and I have 2 questions.> Great!
<Is there a way to play the Stockfish analysis moves?> I assume by that, you mean to be able to actually see the moves it suggests instead of merely see them printed on the screen. Sadly the answer is no, but it is a logical extension that we are looking forward to with Olga 2.0. <Also, can games from Chessbase be imported to the A.L. Am I correct in thinking that FEN and PGN could be imported from Chessbase?> Absolutely. FEN and PGN can be exchange from their sites to this one and back again. Thanks for your support. |
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Oct-31-17
 | | chessgames.com: <OCF>
<1. Why not post your rebuttal on Urcan's player page?> For one thing my rebuttal probably needs a little more polish. And like i said, ever since Urcan's original article has been effectively removed from the internet, the whole thing has lost relevance. It's also a little hard to rebuke what I perceive as a smear piece which runs all over the place in a confused fashion. On one hand Mr. Urcan seems very familiar with our FAQ, as he cites it when it bolsters his argument, and yet many of his allegations would be clearly dismissed by anybody who read the whole of the FAQ. He makes it sound as if anybody who pays the $29 annual fee has the right to modify biographies, and probably believes that to this day. And then there's the weird part called "Unholy Alliances" that would imply that Ray Keene and I go out golfing each Sunday plotting how to manipulate world chess, or something. I don't even know how to reply to things like that other than pointing out that Ray's never been given special privileges not given to other members with player pages. Like <FSR> or <acirce> for example. One possible exception exists: There was one time some years back when somebody wanted to go to every game on the site in which a Keene plagiarism accusation existed, and post all the evidence. Of course their list was very extensive and would take a long time to do a thorough job. I put an end to that practice, not to protect Keene, but I just don't want Chessgames to be the battlefield upon which that war is fought. Perhaps it's no coincidence that shortly after that affair, Urcan's piece was published. The whole Ray Keene smear might be the real impetus behind the article in the first place. His animosity for Keene runs so deep that he wants to discredit any site that even allows him as a member, much less a member with privileges. But that's just speculation. I've probably said too much already. <2. Would it be fair use for me to quote and respond to each point Urcan made on his player page?> I certainly won't stop you. |
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Oct-31-17
 | | chessgames.com: He also wrote in that piece what would seem to be a quote directly from the 1976 Copyright Treaty, but instead quotes some paragraph from a museum website, which is utterly irrelevant to the legal case he tried to construct. He effectively accused us of violating international law when no such thing took place. I found it more than merely unfounded criticism, but downright vile. I wouldn't be surprised if it was pulled at his own request, which speaks all them more for leaving it to history. Like I said, If you want to refute it after all these years I won't stop you, but it's worse than beating a dead horse. It's beating a GHOST horse. (Like that Halloween reference?) |
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Oct-31-17
 | | OhioChessFan: I meant fair use in terms of copying the entirety of Urcan's article on to this site as a means to respond to it. |
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Oct-31-17
 | | OhioChessFan: Per Keene, yeah, he can delete stuff on his player page, as can any other member/player. But you can do a search and find a lot of critical comments of Keene elsewhere, that cg.c has seen fit to leave up. I think probably the Keene issue was a prominent, though not only, reason for Urcan's diatribe. And really, he made some decent points, though I'm sure they weren't news to you. |
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Oct-31-17
 | | chessgames.com: <I meant fair use in terms of copying the entirety of Urcan's article on to this site as a means to respond to it.> Oh, I hadn't considered that. I think the rule of thumb is that your material should outweigh the material being critiqued. |
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Nov-01-17
 | | OhioChessFan: I just invented a killer Christmas clue. I have another thousand or so on the Island of Misfit Klus, hoping to be selected. Any chance? |
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Nov-01-17
 | | OhioChessFan: Meh, it just hit me that Urcan could delete me if I post on his page. Okay, I'll let dead horses lie. |
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Nov-01-17
 | | Tabanus: <front page says Oct 21-20, should be Oct 21-29.> A little late now, I know, but for the future: what about a correction slip link on/for the front page? |
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| Nov-01-17 | | MuzioFan: <chessgames.com>: Could you link the specific rules about invoking the engine in the Opening Explorer to both team forums in the Thematic Challenge? I recall reading a statement on this on the forum containing the tallies, but now I can't seem to find that forum (and if my cooked lines are not allowed to be used I'd much rather discard them than play unfairly). |
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| Nov-01-17 | | Thematic Challenge: <MuzioFan> Yes the rules regarding computers are a bit of a muddle, I'll compose a piece and post it to the White Team forum and then post the identical piece to the Black Team forum. In a nutshell, you can use computers up to the point where a genuine TN (according to the Opening Explorer) has occurred. At that point no new computer analysis may be conducted. However, at that stage somebody may have computer analysis prepared in advance, and that's OK, provided that it was published on the pages prior to the TN being played. (We can't have a team member say "Oh, I just happen to coincidentally have this 10 hour computation of this very position filed away in my personal effects.") But if somebody says "This line may be coming: _______" and commits it to the discussion area, it's fair game for later use. |
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Nov-01-17
 | | chessgames.com: <OhioChessFan: I just invented a killer Christmas clue. I have another thousand or so on the Island of Misfit Klus, hoping to be selected. Any chance?> Love to hear about it, chess@chessgames.com
This year we're having at least 4 guest clue-writers, not including Sargon. I think it's going to be one of the best Holiday Present Hunts yet. |
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| Nov-01-17 | | WinKing: <Thematic Challenge: In a nutshell, you can use computers up to the point where a genuine TN (according to the Opening Explorer) has occurred.> At this point(TN) you will notify both teams that this has occurred correct? |
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| Nov-01-17 | | zanzibar: <<OCF> Meh, it just hit me that Urcan could delete me if I post on his page. Okay, I'll let dead horses lie.> If you wish to post a rebuttal I think the Bistro would be as good a place as any. It might be interesting - even if Urcan's criticism is woefully out of date - to access where <CG> currently is, and to highlight areas of "improvement". |
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| Nov-01-17 | | Boomie: <OhioChessFan: I meant fair use in terms of copying the entirety of Urcan's article on to this site as a means to respond to it.> I think a reference to the archive given by <Bobby Fiske> should be sufficient. https://web.archive.org/web/2013122... You could then extract quotes to fuel your comments. In the time since, CG has taken steps to improve many of the problems correctly cited by Urcan. As you mentioned, Urcan made many good points about CG's shortcomings, though his tone was uncalled for. I doubt that Urcan visits CG but if he removes your comments, we will know that he is lurking...heh. |
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Nov-02-17
 | | FSR: Jude Acers isn't listed in the Player Directory? What the . . . ? |
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Nov-02-17
 | | kingscrusher: Hi Chessgames.com
Is there any chance the TCEC computer games can be added - you can download PGN from here I think: http://tcec.chessdom.com/archive.php
Cheers, K |
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Nov-02-17
 | | chessgames.com: <At this point(TN) you will notify both teams that this has occurred correct?> It should be obvious, but yes, I will. <If you wish to post a rebuttal I think the Bistro would be as good a place as any.> Or his chessforum or wherever. If OCF really wants to go through with it, he should contact me, because I can show where he produces a misquote of the law which, if it were true, would make me a criminal—all while he gripes about problems with citations. Scholarly error or intentional? Let the reader decide. |
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Nov-02-17
 | | chessgames.com: <Is there any chance the TCEC computer games can be added - you can download PGN from here I think> Sure, I'll look into it. Those games typically need the most curating (oddly) but I can fix them up. <Jude Acers isn't listed in the Player Directory? What the . . . ?> For how well known he is, his rating just wasn't high enough compared to the number of games we have on him, so he didn't make the cut. Fortunately I have a way to force him in there. |
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Nov-02-17
 | | FSR: The USCF fixed Acers' rating at 2399 for some time (he had been over 2400 but they thought he had gotten that high by gaming the rating system), so you could use that as his peak rating, which I'm guessing would be high enough to make the cut. |
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| Nov-02-17 | | WinKing: <chessgames.com: <At this point(TN) you will notify both teams that this has occurred correct?> It should be obvious, but yes, I will.> Always get it in writing. Never assume anything. ;) |
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| Nov-02-17 | | zanzibar: <<If you wish to post a rebuttal I think the Bistro would be as good a place as any.> Or his chessforum or wherever.> As <OCF> noted, and I have experienced a couple of times, posts to a user's forum are subject to removal at said user's discretion. Nothing wrong with that, unless one wishes to see potentially constructive (or otherwise innocuous) posts deleted for seemingly arbitrary reasons. I would definitely recommend against posting work on Urcan's forum, for these reasons, as <OCF> has already noted as well. |
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Nov-03-17
 | | Tabanus: <CG> Like in Norway, the Chinese has both a long-lasting chess league (for teams) and a short-lasting national team championship. The latter is here: https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-t..., and it seems the games (some if not all) are in CG but not given TI status. On the other hand, the Chinese Team Championships (2017) (why plural btw) really belongs to the Chinese Chess League (2017), and should be merged with this (under the latter name). And same for 2016. It's a little confusing, and I think Sargon may be uncertain. |
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Nov-03-17
 | | Tabanus: http://theweekinchess.com/chessnews... calls the long-lasting multi-site league event "Chinese Team Championship", and I don't know if the real China chT (in June) games are mixed in there (in his pgn(s)). Whether or not, he has really no separate report from the China team Ch in June (or so it seems). |
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Nov-03-17
 | | Tabanus: Even Chess-Results confuses the names. Have a look: http://www.chess-results.com/tnr275... (the league 18 April - 5 December)
http://www.chess-results.com/tnr285... (the team Ch in June, with 252 games) |
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