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Sep-08-09
 | | Tabanus: <Benzol> Searching in FIDE's site on "oratov" etc. gives only one player: http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?... So yes, with 99,9% certainty. |
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| Sep-08-09 | | Hesam7: <CG.com> have you ever considered introducing a comment system similar to the one used by www.reddit.com ? The idea is that users can vote on each single comment and then one could sort all the posts in a thread according to the vote count in addition to the current format where we see all the comments in chronological order. I think that would be great, specially when a game page has a lot of comments and some of them are not that useful then they would not get that many votes. Once you switch to the comments sorted by votes they will be at the bottom and the posts with most votes will have more information, analysis and wit. |
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Sep-08-09
 | | chessgames.com: <Hesam7: <CG.com> have you ever considered introducing a comment system similar to the one used by www.reddit.com ? > We're familiar with that approach, and related ideas. We don't dislike it--in fact it's really very clever. Some sites, notably www.youtube.com, have set up their discussion forum so that if a post is disliked by the majority of readers it either vanishes entirely or it at least "collapses" so that the average user doesn't have to look at it unless they really want to. This is sort of like a democratized "Whistle" that operates on sheer statistics rather than subjective administrative decisions. We see all of these techniques (reddit, youtube, and others) as plausible ways to self-police otherwise chaotic message forums, each with their own particular pros and cons. No solution is perfect, and there will always be an argument made for some alternate type of answer to the same problem. However it's worth mentioning that most of these sites don't offer the Ignore List nor the Favorites List. In short, yes we are aware of that approach and agree that it has some merit. However, for the time being the trinity of features, "Ignore-Favorites-Whistle" represent our solution to the same problem. |
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| Sep-08-09 | | Hesam7: <CG.com: In short, yes we are aware of that approach and agree that it has some merit. However, for the time being the trinity of features, "Ignore-Favorites-Whistle" represent our solution to the same problem.> That was one point but there is another angle. Consider an extreme example: Topalov vs Anand, 2005. This game was broadcast live and lasted 7 hours and right now it has 106 pages of kibitzing! How do you go through the kibitzing for this game? If someone posted really good analysis during the broadcast I have to sieve through a gigantic sea of posts to find it, in a voting system good analysis would be rated at top and accessing our collective analysis of the game would be much easier. I don't want to brag but there have been instances were our collective analysis surpassed those of GM commentators, see: Anand vs Adams, 2005 and Leko vs Topalov, 2005 for example. |
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Sep-08-09
 | | tpstar: <chessgames.com> Maybe this is one enhancement that could be accomplished through the Sandbox feature. If <Hesam7> was able to put Topalov-Anand (San Luis, 2005) or other classic games in his Sandbox, then let him delete and filter the comments so he produces an individualized version of that game's kibitzing just for his personal Sandbox. This would also be a workable method for selecting group-reviewed annotations versus including them in the database PGN (another previous request). There should be some block function so any classic games in someone's Sandbox wouldn't be re-entered into the database to create a duplicate. |
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| Sep-08-09 | | Hesam7: <tpstar, CG.com> what exactly is the Sandbox feature? |
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Sep-08-09
 | | tpstar: <Hesam7> chessgames.com chessforum It's in the works. :-) |
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| Sep-09-09 | | Benzol: <Tabanus> Many thanks. I hope <chessgames> sees it that way too. :) |
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| Sep-09-09 | | whiteshark: <Benzol: I hope <chessgames> sees it that way too.> They did. :D |
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Sep-09-09
 | | chessgames.com: <Hesam> Your point illustrated by that 103-page game is well taken. We all know that is a highly exceptional game because of the circumstances of the broadcast, but the question still remains, how does one delve into the discussion when it is that large and confusing? If you had some variation to share regarding move 23, learning whether or not somebody else has already pointed it out is no trivial task! As Chessgames grows, more and more pages will have 100 or more pages of kibitzing, so we should not regard this as an abnormal case--one day it will be the norm. Tpstar's suggestion is very clever, but in some ways radical. If I read his idea correctly, he wants us to make a copy of the game and then also make a copy of the kibitzing. Interesting but we would have to tread carefully, as never before have we allowed kibitzing to be duplicated. It brings up 100 side-effect issues. However, the notion of using the upcoming Sandbox to address this sort of problem is very clever. Copying famous games for Sandbox play will be fully allowed, so somebody always can have a blank slate for a famous game and then start to insert whatever you want. (For those worried about duplicates popping up in the real database: these cloned Sandbox games will be marked as "not for database insertion" from their very inception.) As clever as Tpstar's idea is, it does no good right now, since the Sandbox is not yet a reality. Until we release the Sandbox, our best suggestion is to use your Favorites List. If you skim a very crowded game and find that 10-15 people made really worthwhile contributions to that game's discussion, you can put them all on your favorites list, then flip on "favorites mode". You'll see fewer pages and it will be exclusively from your favorite members. |
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Sep-09-09
 | | Viewer Deluxe: On one of the current tournament’s page 62nd Russian Championship Higher League (2009) just under the players names list there is a link “(29 players not shown. Click here for more complete list.)”. No matter what I tried (logging in, etc.) I couldn’t make that link work. I kept getting the same list with the same message below it.
<Hint>: Try finding Savchenko or Zabotin in the list. Please, advise. |
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Sep-09-09
 | | chessgames.com: <Viewer Deluxe> That's a known bug. It used to work, but the feature got smashed by some other sort of upgrade to the tournament system. The intention is that the link makes the scoreboard go away and reverts the page to the old styled "big table with tiny text" list of the players, in rating order. As you know, that feature is currently quite broken. We'll try to address that soon. Sorry. |
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| Sep-10-09 | | Open Defence: I dont like complaining but we have not had a live event for sometime now, also we dont get discussion pages up until the tournaments are well underway sometimes... |
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| Sep-10-09 | | whatthefat: <chessgames.com: As clever as Tpstar's idea is, it does no good right now, since the Sandbox is not yet a reality.> Is there any rough ETA on this? I personally can't wait to see such a feature! |
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| Sep-10-09 | | Open Defence: <Chessgames is proud to announce that we'll be covering the Nanjing Pearl Springs tournament at our live broadcast page. For this event we'll join company with a very special commentator who is bound to make this event unforgettable, none other than our very own User: Natalia Pogonina, a WGM with a current FIDE rating of 2501. The line-up for this year's Pearl Springs tournament is: Veselin Topalov, Magnus Carlsen, Teimour Radjabov, Peter Leko, Dmitry Jakovenko, and Wang Yue. > now you've made me feel guilty about my previous post :) |
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Sep-10-09
 | | chessgames.com: <Open Defence: I dont like complaining but we have not had a live event for sometime now, also we dont get discussion pages up until the tournaments are well underway sometimes...> Never be shy to express honest criticism. No doubt we make countless mistakes, but it's the mistakes that really bother customers which we want to know about so we can work doubly hard to correct them. On the subject of ongoing tournaments, I'm not sure what to say other than that we apologize for any delays and we are trying to keep things current. Also understand that occasionally the delays are intentional: you see, many tournaments provide PGN, but it's very sloppy PGN that requires hand modification before the database can use it. We're happy to cover these games--eventually--but we can't always promise to cover them daily. It's so much easier to fix a file of PGN from a tournament in one fell swoop than it is to fix it on a game-by-game basis. There are other cases though where we have no excuse other than being distracted by other Chessgames related matters--we apologize and will do our best to avoid delays like that in the future. On the subject of live games, we have wonderful news, especially for people like yourself who live in those time zones (like India and Japan) that rarely get to see live chess at a convenient hour. Here is the announcement at the Kibitzer's Café. |
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| Sep-10-09 | | Open Defence: thanks <chessgames.com>! |
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| Sep-11-09 | | who: I haven't visited much recently, but I now have an ad for Russian Beauty or some such. I thought part of being a paying member was that I wouldn't see ads like that. |
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| Sep-11-09 | | zanshin: <who> If you're talking about <Natalia Pogonina>, I had the same impression until I realized she was going to be the featured commentator for the Nanjing Pearl Springs live broadcasts. (Click on announcement link two posts before yours) |
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Sep-11-09
 | | chessgames.com: <who> Nowhere does it promise that the ad-blocking feature of premium membership is 100% complete. It blocks most of the ads; the ones that it misses are either intentional, because they are "in-house ads", or due to some technical wrinkle. That particular spot for www.pogonina.com is really an in-house ad. You see, Pogonina has agreed to team-up with Chessgames for at least the next month, and that ad is one small example of this affiliation. The collaboration between Chessgames and Natalia Pogonina will be more and more obvious between now and the end of the Pearl Nanjing tournament. Incidentally, I'm sure she's flattered to be called a "beauty", but don't underestimate her chess. She was selected for her impeccable qualifications: a wonderful personality, a great teacher, good writing/English skills, technically competent, and her FIDE rating of 2501 speaks for itself. |
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| Sep-11-09 | | nescio: I don't think <who> is complaining about Pogonina, but about www.russianeuro.com, probably a russian dating site of which I also saw an adverisement on the homepage of chessgames.com today. It doesn't bother me, the young lady in this ad is actually a feast for tired eyes.
To be sure however, I checked the "Do not display sidebar advertisements" option in the preferences and now the advertisement is gone. |
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Sep-11-09
 | | chessgames.com: We don't know anything about russianeuro.com but any company that makes it through Google's criteria for advertising is usually a decent company. Anytime we get reports from a member that a company is disreputable we block their advertisements. The same goes for companies that decide to use risqué images to sell their product. (There's a certain MMO which you'll notice is no longer featured on our homepage...) I just did a test and disabled my sidebar ads. After loading the homepage now I only see banners for in-site promotions: The perennial "Be Treated Like a King" ad, the "Can you Play Like Tal?" ad, the Chessbookie ad, and the new ad for Pogonina's website/blog. Even with ads disabled I do in fact see a section that says "Chess Links" which links to Google ads. It's hard to see, way down on the bottom of the right hand side. That's actually a technical oversight. This gets back to the fact that we never promised a 100% ad elimination -- premium users see far fewer ads, but we can't promise that they will see absolutely none. For one thing, it's too easy to make a mistake for us to be able to promise that. Moreover, the advertisements are a good fraction of our revenue and we would have to significantly raise rates if they were entirely eliminated. We hope that what we offer is a reasonable compromise. |
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| Sep-12-09 | | Benzol: <chessgames> Can please merge the game in this file Anatoly V Alexeev into this one Anatoly Alexeev This is Anatoly Vasilievich Alexeev
Thanks in advance. |
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Sep-12-09
 | | chessgames.com: Sure, here's the new page: Anatoly Vasilievich Alexeev. You don't happen to know anything about A M Alexeev, do you? |
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Sep-12-09
 | | chessgames.com: <Find Your Russian Beauty Today!> Ohhh, now we finally see the advertisement that caused the stir. That ad may be G-rated by Google's system, but it's obviously aimed at adults. Our apologies; we hadn't noticed it until just now. If anybody is offended or concerned about that ad, we would be happy to take it out of the rotation. |
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