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May-30-10
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  chessgames.com: <Pinned Piece> We've changed Nakamura vs Kamsky, 2010 per your correction slip, but that left us with Kamsky playing TWO round 8 games. Again going by your correction slip, we moved his "extra" game to the quads (round 10). But now that leaves Onischuk with only 7 games played in the first 9 rounds.

The official site (from http://saintlouischessclub.org/cont...) continues to claims the following (see http://saintlouischessclub.org/tfd2... ):

Round #8 featured <1> Onischuck-Nakamura (1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 ... 33. Qe7 1/2-1/2 ) and <2> Shulman-Kamsky (1. c4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. g3 dxc4 4. Qa4+ ... 31. Kf2 Qh5 32. Kg2 Qd5 1/2-1/2)

However the very same site says that the pairings for round 8 (shown here http://saintlouischessclub.org/tfd2... ) are <1> Nakamura-Kamsky and <2> Onischuk-Shulman.

When the official site contradicts itself one must wonder if their PGN is wrong, or if their pairing list is wrong. We're going to assume that what you say is true--i.e. the pairings are right but their PGN is loco, but that means our US Championship is still incorrect. There are obviously still contradictions in our database. Specifically US Championships (2010) now shows Onischuk playing only 7 of the first 9 rounds. And yet all other players played their full 9 games. The only way for that to be possible is if games from the quads have become muddled into the main 9 rounds and vice versa. You've seemingly uncovered one such case but there must be at least one other case like that which has gone unreported.

We also have three games from the quads, an oxymoron in itself: ch-USA Quads (2010)

This is what happens when the official site produces garbage PGN (an all too common occurrence). It's tempting to just delete our entire copy of the tournament and start from scratch, perhaps using the scores found at New in Chess, if they are any better.

May-30-10  crawfb5: I think I have the 2010 US Championships snafu at least partially solved. Between looking at the official site and crosstables my database program generated from downloads from This Week in Chess, this is how the tournament ran.

1. For the first seven rounds, everyone was in contention.

2. The four leaders after seven rounds were split off to play a quad.

3. Everyone else continued in the general tournament for two additional rounds.

Here's a news report from the official site that confirms this: http://saintlouischessclub.org/cont...

I have not checked round-by-round pairings with what we have here, but I'd wager checking against what's at TWIC should straighten it out as long as the odd pairing wrinkle at the end is taken into account.

May-31-10  crawfb5: This is the crosstable I generated from TWIC downloads (#810 and #811), edited some to fit our kibitzing formatting. Note that Nakamura, Shulman, Kamsky, and Onischuk are <all> listed as 5/7, because the quad is listed as a separate event in TWIC's PGNs.

USA Ch
Saint Louis USA, 2010.05.14 - 2010.05.23

1: Shabalov 6.0/ 9 12b= 8w+ 4b- 7w- 18b+ 14w+ 5b= 13w+ 2w+

2: Stripunsky 5.5/ 9 3w- 23b+ 19w+ 16b+ 10w= 4w- 12b+ 7w+ 1b-

3: Nakamura 5.0/ 7 2b+ 11w+ 5b= 6w= 4b= 12w+ 7b= .... ....

4: Shulman 5.0/ 7 21w= 19b= 1w+ 11b+ 3w= 2b+ 6w= .... ....

5: Kamsky 5.0/ 7 17w+ 18b+ 3w= 9b= 7w+ 6b= 1w= .... ...

6: Onischuk 5.0/ 7 15b+ 7w= 22b+ 3b= 9w+ 5w= 4b= .... ....

7: Christiansen 5.0/ 9 23w+ 6b= 16w= 1b+ 5b- 13w+ 3w= 2b- 8w=

8: Finegold 5.0/ 9 9w= 1b- 14w= 20b= 19w+ 15w+ 10b= 11w= 7b=

9: Akobian 5.0/ 9 8b= 12w+ 13b+ 5w= 6b- 10w= 11b- 16w= 17b+

10: Yermolinsky 5.0/ 9 16w- 17b+ 20w= 22w+ 2b= 9b= 8w= 12b= 11b=

11: Hess 5.0/ 9 24w+ 3b- 18w+ 4w- 13b- 19b+ 9w+ 8b= 10w=

12: Kraai 4.5/ 9 1w= 9b- 21w+ 15w+ 16b+ 3b- 2w- 10w= 13b=

13: Krush 4.5/ 9 14w+ 16b= 9w- 17b= 11w+ 7b- 20w+ 1b- 12w=

14: Kaidanov 4.5/ 9 13b- 15w= 8b= 18w= 22b+ 1b- 17w= 21b= 16w+

15: Benjamin 4.5/ 9 6w- 14b= 24w+ 12b- 20w+ 8b- 18b- 19w+ 22w+

16: Ehlvest 4.0/ 9 10b+ 13w= 7b= 2w- 12w- 17b= 21w+ 9b= 14b-

17: Robson 4.0/ 9 5b- 10w- 23b+ 13w= 24b= 16w= 14b= 18w+ 9w-

18: Khachiyan 3.5/ 9 20b+ 5w- 11b- 14b= 1w- 23b= 15w+ 17b- 24w=

19: Altounian 3.5/ 9 22b= 4w= 2b- 21w= 8b- 11w- 24b+ 15b- 23w+

20: Lenderman 3.5/ 9 18w- 24b= 10b= 8w= 15b- 22w+ 13b- 23b= 21w=

21: Bhat 3.5/ 9 4b= 22w- 12b- 19b= 23w= 24w+ 16b- 14w= 20b=

22: Kudrin 2.5/ 9 19w= 21b+ 6w- 10b- 14w- 20b- 23w= 24w= 15b-

23: Gurevich 2.5/ 9 7b- 2w- 17w- 24b= 21b= 18w= 22b= 20w= 19b-

24: Shankland 2.5/ 9 11b- 20w= 15b- 23w= 17w= 21b- 19w- 22b= 18b=

104 games: +37 =45 -22

May-31-10  Bridgeburner: <chessgames.com>

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May-31-10
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  chessgames.com: <BridgeBurner> We're sorry, an automated email was sent to your account's email address 30 days ago, but sometimes people don't use the same email, and sometimes the email simply doesn't get through or ends up in a junk folder.

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<crawfb5> Excellent work, thank you.

May-31-10  frogbert: <chessgames.com>

in the recent trend of "commenting" wc match write-ups, i'd like to bring attention to the last sentence of the anand-kramnik match summary:

<After a draw in the 11th game, Viswanathan Anand defended his title to became the undisputed 15th World Chess Champion.>

admittedly anand <became> the undisputed 15th world champion (at least according to one way of counting), but i'm 99% sure you want to change the above to saying that "anand defended his title <to become> the undisputed 15th [...]"

editing text is a bit like fixing bugs when programming: one is likely to introduce new mistakes when fixing old ones - or when "improving" the text/code. i've done both, a hundred times. :o)

in geek-speak: s/became/become/

Jun-01-10  Bridgeburner: <chessgames.com>

That's cool, as you already know I've never had reason to question your bona fides.

I can appreciate that mishaps occur just as you can appreciate how annoying they can be.

Anyway, it's all good.

Jun-01-10  Bridgeburner: And thanks for reinstating my premium membership!
Jun-01-10  suenteus po 147: <chessgames.com> I made an error in six game submissions early this morning. I submitted five Beliavsky-Mikhalchisin and one Csom-Mikhalchisin game to the database, but the problem is the last name in all six games should be Mikhalchis<h>in with an "h". Hopefully, with one quick little edit, we can avoid a duplicate player page being created :) Thanks!
Jun-01-10
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  Tabanus: Duplicate player page? Don't give me heart attack :)

<cg> The Mitropa Cup (9 rounds, round 5 tomorrow) has very good (it seems) pgn's, here: http://schachbund.ch/Mitropacup2010.... Several interesting young players, including Caruana and Rapport.

Jun-02-10  Bridgeburner: Errm...I can't connect to the secure.2020tech.com page...
Jun-02-10  Bridgeburner: Scratch that! All done. Thanks again.
Jun-02-10  Blunderdome: Chessbookie has betting on the Chinese Championships and the Karpov tournament, but there's no forum for either.
Jun-03-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Stonehenge: <Tabanus: Duplicate player page? Don't give me heart attack :)>

Then don't look at today's <Happy Birthday To:> :)

Jun-03-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Stonehenge: <CG>

I noticed both S Krege vs J Gilbert, 2000 and F Beltz vs J Gilbert, 2000 had a duplicate. Immediately after submitting a correction slip, both duplicates disappeared and two other games came in place. One of them, A Corkett vs J Gilbert, 2000 I have just been uploading, so can you please remove that one from the queue? The other new one is R Palliser vs J Gilbert, 2000 for your info.

Jun-03-10  Benzol: <chessgames> Are Chakravarthy Deepan and Chakkravarthy J Deepan the same player?
Jun-06-10  1. h4: The Copper State International (June 3-June 9) in Mesa, Arizona has just recently started. Both the A (GM-norm) and B groups feature several GM's and IM's.

Links:

-- http://americanchess.net/ (Homepage of the organization running the event)

-- http://main.uschess.org/content/vie...
-- http://monroi.com/watch/?tnm_id=1389 (Live games)

Jun-08-10  Benzol: A rose by any other name

Daniela Nutu-Gajic and Daniela Terescenco-Nutu ,hmmm...

Jun-08-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Stonehenge: Can we have a forum please for the Dutch National Championship (June 10-20)?

<Contestants>

Jan Smeets 2659 GM
Loek van Wely 2653 GM
Anish Giri 2642 GM
Erwin l'Ami 2620 GM
Dimitri Reinderman 2608 GM
Wouter Spoelman 2580 GM
Sipke Ernst 2572 GM
Friso Nijboer 2567 GM
Robin van Kampen 2481 IM
Benjamin Bok 2430 FM

Average 2581

Jun-08-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Stonehenge: Is going to be played in Eindhoven. Official site: http://nk.schaakbond.nl/
Jun-08-10  dakgootje: Should they not watch the World Cup instead of playing chess?
Jun-08-10  Hesam7: I recently uploaded a pgn and I was wondering do you guys notify the uploader once the game is in the system or do we have to check manually every once in a while?

Also is there another world game in the works?

Jun-09-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Stonehenge: <Hesam7> You don't get a notification. Sometimes you have to wait very long before a game appears in the DB. Last time I had to wait for seven weeks.

If you upload many games, it's good to keep some sort of administration so you don't upload a game twice. Personally I wouldn't mind if <CG> closes down the <PGN Upload Utility> for a couple of weeks so they can clear the queue.

Jun-10-10  Edwin M: Say my subscription expires after a year and i wait for like a month to subscribe again, will profile data like my Guess-the-Move recordings be lost?
Jun-11-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Stonehenge: <CG> It would be nice when you answer some questions here once in a while. Nothing worse as consistently being ignored.
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