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Jan-13-11  Whitehat1963: Can you put this worthy game in the Guess-the-Move database, please:

Geller vs Tal, 1963

Jan-14-11  truefriends: It's probably asked before, but...

Since the World VS Pogonina game is going to end (probably into a draw) in a short period of time, do we have a new challenger for the World Team ready or will there be a break after this game?

Jan-14-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Stonehenge: I read somewhere that Van Wely is taking a sabbatical this year. Would be a nice opponent :)
Jan-14-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Stonehenge: Saidali Iuldachev and Saidali Yuldashev are one and the same player (GM).

FIDE card: http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?...

The game Smirin vs S Yuldashev, 1989 (URS-chT U18) seems strange because both players were born in 1968. Maybe it was U21, I don't know.

Jan-14-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Is there going to be a seperate section to kibitz for group B and C?
Jan-14-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen: <DANIEL FREEMAN>

Daniel I appreciate your past help with my Profile-

However, it has just vanished. I got the "error too long" message, same as before, but with a difference.

This time MY ENTIRE PROFILE DISAPPEARED.

Three year's worth of work.

Please tell me you can retrieve and re-install this information?

And please tell me why this happened in the first place.

It's never happened before- usually I get the error message "too long" and I just go back and delete material till it all fits again.

I sent you an email on this. I also sent you an email three days ago explaining that <Lev Aronin's> grandson is unhappy with an inaccurate post I made on <Aronin's> player page.

I understand you are busy, but you'll understand that at the moment I am not happy about any of this.

Thanks,
JFQ

Jan-15-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen: Aha- sorry to have panicked like that- many CG.com members helped me retrieve my Profile data and told me how to put it back in myself.

So today I'm going to rebuild it myself and put in a bunch of changes. Maybe the "computer code gods" were telling me to do a thorough housecleaning and revision.

Fellow members were able to explain everything to me except why my Profile disappeared in the first place after the "Error- too long" message.

Can you guys please look in to that?

To give you further information- two times in the past I got that Error Message and my Profile did not disappear. But this last time it did.

Thanks, and again sorry for panicking. I was afraid all the work was gone forever but it's not.

-Jess

Jan-16-11  Everyone: From Tata Steel (2011) page:

<belgradegambit: <Shams: No groups B and C pages?> Yeah, whats up with that CG? Every previous year we had separate discussion sections for B and C which are exciting tournaments.>

Jan-16-11  notyetagm: <CG.COM> Can we please have a forum for the <CULTURAL VILLAGE TOURNAMENT 2010>? It was the qualifying event for Tata Steel C.

TWIC -> http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne...

PGN -> http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/assets/...

Please note that the PGN have already been cleaned by TWIC (Mark Crowther).

Thanks

Jan-16-11  WhiteRook48: <CG> I believe that the following game Marshall vs C Jaffe, 1909 shows the wrong score; it should be 0-1. Thanks.
Jan-17-11
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Daniel> thanks for reinstalling my Profile! It will be very easy for me to edit it down now. Thank you thank you thank you.
Jan-17-11
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  jessicafischerqueen: I have a few suggestions- regarding getting mistaken posts deleted from Player pages, such as the egregiously mislabeled photo I posted on the <Lev Aronin> page a week ago- which is still there.

1. On player pages, allow all members to have unlimited "delete your own post" powers with no time limit. I don't see the downside to this.

2. Allow trusted members who are already enabled to edit Player Page bios- such as <Benzol> <Twinlark> <Phony Benoni> and such-

to be able to delete posts, if necessary, from the Player Pages.

I understand you gentlemen are underfunded and understaffed- but this is a good reason to put more administrative trust in members you already know you can trust?

Similar to how Wikipedia editing works?

Jan-17-11
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  Phony Benoni: <jfq> While I think proposal #1 has merit, #2 might really open a can of worms.

I realize the context of your proposals is a simple error of fact, but I fear that giving more members the power to delete messages would lead to difficulties when the inevitable requests are received to delete inappropriate content..

Such actions could easily lead to accusations of censorship. While monitoring of abusive or inflammatory posts is necessary, I feel this action must be applied carefully and consistently. Having additional members involved means having different standards, no matter how precise the guidelines might be.

While I would welcome the ability to edit player and game information, I would be very wary of ever deleting a post. Having a very low tolerance for heated arguments, I would be tempted to delete posts that the vast majority of kibitzers would not find offensive. Rather than be drawn into that, I would prefer not to have the power in the first place.

Jan-17-11  notyetagm: <CG.COM> Could you please make a forum for the <2010 CHESS CLASSIC MAINZ>? You already have the games addes to your database, just no forum.

See for example these two critical wins by the eventual winner of the tourney, Gata Kamsky.

Kamsky vs Karjakin, 2010

Kasimdzhanov vs Kamsky, 2010

Thanks

Jan-17-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen: <Phony Benoni> I appreciate your concern about this.

If you were asked to be an administrator with power to monitor a player page, and you didn't want to, I see no problem there.

But there already is more than one administrator- so there are already "different standards"- absolutely so.

For there not to be "different standards"- at present- the existing administrators would have to be the same person.

They aren't.

The bigger a website gets, the more administrators are required. Most of the chess websites take on new administrators as they need them.

Time and money constrain operations after a certain point of growth, and then the demand for administration increases- as it has at our website here, which is growing.

The folk who actually own this domain name, and pay for its operation, are free to have as many administrators as they like.

I think they should consider adding more.

Forget about deleting posts for a minute- why not add <Benzol> or <Peter> or <you> or <other proven trusted chess historians> as people with the power to review and add games submissions?

Point is- there is no reason on earth to <prevent> this website from getting more help with that kind of task.

Of course, it's their website- they'll do what they see fit.

I'm merely suggesting they ask for, and accept, more help from members- members they hand pick- for a wide variety of administrative tasks.

Jimmy Webb's Wikipedia got big, and remains *largely* accurate, because he was able and willing to delegate authority.

And it works for Wikipedia. Glaring Wiki hacks are normally found and corrected within 24 hours.

Jan-17-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  SwitchingQuylthulg: <jessicafischerqueen: 1. On player pages, allow all members to have unlimited "delete your own post" powers with no time limit. I don't see the downside to this.>

It used to be that way, and that did have its upsides. Then <frogbert> went around the site deleting pretty much every post he'd ever written, and the admins had to undelete the lot. It will never be that way again.

Jan-17-11  achieve: I'm with <switch> on this (#1) point, and an added problem with allowing unlimited time for deletion is that in the past, repeatedly, a poster B would curse and scream at poster A, breaking every guideline and rule for decent behaviour in the book <and then some>, proceeding to misbehave in live discussion knowing he could delete within an hour. With unlimited time this could further complicate and escalate. Erase your dirty tracks.

And to top it all off one such poster is still allowed to post at this website, which may be considered a separated issue.

Jan-17-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen: <Switch= Niels>

Aha I wasn't even thinking of that kind of thing.

Ok I understand- but what about this- is it so terrible that dirty tracks get erased?

Especially since the admins can undelete them?

Too much work for them I guess as <Switch> said.

You know it's a crying shame that "fighting" on player pages is even an issue in the first place.

The vast majority of members would like to see interesting and pertinent information on the Player Pages and games pages.

And the vast majority of members do in fact post such information there.

It's just sad. We are "holding ourselves back" with such behavior.

I wonder how much faster the games would get uploaded and errors corrected if nobody ever fought or broke the posting guidelines.

Speaking very personally, to have <Pavel Aronin> angered by misinformation I posted on his grandfather's player page- and for a week now- and not be able to delete it or get it deleted in good time-

That's really what's bothering me the most.

Jan-17-11  achieve: <Jess> Yes - I noticed that, hence your request for more/additional "manpower", as well as the option to delete a post beyond the current timelimit. You're covering both sides there.

Personally I think you've gotten your message across, but there are flipsides to the unconditional and time-limitless deleting. Regrettably I agree. But this is what the admins have to weigh <also>, while indeed being relatively understaffed to perform the "normal" tasks to everyone's satisfaction.

Luckily you can always apologize as in your case with Mr Aronin, and repair the misinfo as best you can afterward.

Jan-17-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: JFQ, we're really sorry about the profile mishap. You'll be happy to know that the bug is fixed now, but unfortunately that doesn't help you much.

We did get a copy of your profile from the Google cache and to the best of our ability stripped out the HTML. Some bugs still remain no doubt but the information should be there.

Please accept our apologies and hopefully you can work with what's there now.

Jan-17-11  Caissanist: My apologies if this has been raised before--I would really like to see a structure here where "trusted members" could upload PGN to an "unverified" area, and then we could verify each others' PGN. I would think this would not be too hard to implement technically, and it would save the Chessgames administrators a lot of work.
Jan-17-11  Caissanist: One other possibility--if "trusted members" could create our own tournament forums, this could do double duty as a helpful mechanism for uploading and verifying PGN withough CG admins having to get directly involved.
Jan-17-11  AdrianP: Any chance of getting the Tata Steel B and C groups up and running (games / tournament page)? Thanks, in advance.
Jan-17-11  Caissanist: <AdrianP> you are about the 10,000th person to make this request (plus a few thousand requests for forums for other recent tournaments). The admins are obviously too swamped to do all this, which is why I trotted out my suggestion that a few "trusted members" be given the capability to create forums.
Jan-17-11  Caissanist: <JFQ> Chessgames pages were archived in the Internet wayback machine up until about two and a half years ago, if you ever want to see any of your old work you can go to http://web.archive.org/web/*/http:/...
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