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Jun-22-11  shivasuri4: Sorry to ask you again,but how do I reduce the width of the posts?Strangely,the width is normal on this page but is a lot more on the POTD page.Please help.
Jun-22-11
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  Phony Benoni: <shivasuri4> The width of the page on the POTD is due to kibitzers who repeat certain symbols that stretch across the page and cause the width to expand. There's nothing you can do about it besides bringing it to their attention and asking them to stop.
Jun-22-11  shivasuri4: Thank you, <Phony Benoni>.
Jun-22-11
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  chessgames.com: <shivasuri4> On one hand it is my duty to repeat what is so often repeated here, that you should not post here what would be better as a Whistle-complaint, nor should you come here to "appeal a decision" stemming from a Whistle. On the other hand I do sympathize with your plight in that you may have a perfectly legitimate Whistle which is seemingly ignored. Please understand that the most difficult violation to correctly identify is that of off-topic (even non sequitur) posts. Even our finest and most beloved posters engage in off-topic banter from time to time, so admins are often reluctant to take action.

In short we will review the case again, but in the future please bring matters like this up directly to chess@chessgames.com. Thanks.

Jun-22-11
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  chessgames.com: <Phony Benoni: <shivasuri4> The width of the page on the POTD is due to kibitzers who repeat certain symbols that stretch across the page and cause the width to expand.>

True. We hate that! We have so much software designed to prevent exactly that kind of thing, and yet people will always discover one more way to make the page go haywire.

<There's nothing you can do about it besides bringing it to their attention and asking them to stop.>

Actually, if you bring it to OUR attention (i.e. via the Whistle) we will either delete the message or hack it so it no longer breaks the format. In fact, we regard posts that break our page formatting as a technical posting violation.

We have nothing against people trying to get fancy in the kibitzing area, but if you want to type weird stuff it's YOUR responsibility to make sure you aren't breaking anything!

Anyhow, we saw the post you were talking about and fixed it, so normalcy has returned. Thanks for pointing it out.

Jun-22-11  technical draw: <There's nothing you can do about it besides bringing it to their attention and asking them to stop.>

If you put the user on ignore it will correct the problem.

Jun-22-11
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  Phony Benoni: <chessgames.com> Thanks for pointing out the Whistle possibility. I hadn't realized that. Fortunately, this turned out to be an innocent mistake.
Jun-23-11  shivasuri4: <Please understand that the most difficult violation to correctly identify is that of off-topic (even non sequitur) posts. Even our finest and most beloved posters engage in off-topic banter from time to time, so admins are often reluctant to take action.>

But that's not the whole point,is it ? Being off-topic is tolerable,to an extent.Everyone does it,including myself.Note <lamont>'s posts in the Fischer forum,for example.Even though I dislike such posts,I don't complain about such kibitzes because many people seem to love/like them <and> the responses are usually civil.Besides,there isn't much (if at all) hate being spread.

However , <ycbaywtb> has been openly spreading hatred for religions other than Christianity for quite a long time now.Why do I get the nagging feeling that had he attacked Christianity with the same rigour instead of defending/supporting it,the posts would vanished soon(er) ? Does freedom of expression include polluting tournament pages and hurting others' sentiments so regularly without any censor?The Bazna page has now become rather unrecognizable and that's quite annoying.Thank God the tourney is over.Putting one or two on ignore doesn't really solve the problem ,I feel.

Jun-23-11  Colonel Mortimer: Abhorrent or hateful posts should never be deleted (within reason) - they should be challenged and subjected to the positive rays of logic, reason and above all humanity. Just as darkness cannot be avoided so the day will dawn to shed light on all matters dark and disdainful.
Jun-23-11
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  chessgames.com: <shivasuri4> Just to clarify my previous statement, I was just trying to point out that when somebody uses Chessgames for an undesirable off-topic purpose (e.g. to "bash" other people's religions) it can take a long time for the admins to sort-out exactly what is happening and take action

Compare that to cases where admins deal with (say) racial epithets, or obscenity, or spamming. In those situations things are relatively black and white, and admins can move swiftly and with confidence. But in these weird grey-areas, we need people like yourself to point these things out to us, and we thank you for it.

<Colonel Mortimer: Abhorrent or hateful posts should never be deleted (within reason) - they should be challenged and subjected to the positive rays of logic> I appreciate your respect for "the marketplace of ideas", and I agree with you in the general sense. However the real issue here is not so much abhorrent ideas, but being abhorrently off-topic.

Sometimes people come to Chessgames with a specific agenda. We don't pre-judge anybody; come on in, and speak your mind. Even if their agenda is not chess-related, we still can tolerate them, as long as they find a place where their posting fits in. However one thing we can't tolerate is when they start posting on whatever tournament happens to be popular at the moment, simply because that's the soapbox that gets them the most attention.

Jun-24-11
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  chessgames.com: <Oct-09-10 Annie K.: <cg.com> - I think it might be a good idea to set up a separate forum for biography suggestions, that you could link from your profile here and the FAQ.>

We think so too, and we finally have it open to the public. We call it the The Biographer Bistro. Enjoy!

Jun-25-11
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  Annie K.: Thanks for the notice and credit. Great job! :)
Jun-25-11
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  Domdaniel: < Great job! :)> Seconded and thirded.
Jun-26-11  achieve: Hi <chessgames> - could you create a page for the Dutch Championships that started today? I reckon quite a few chess friends would like to follow Giri's progress during this edition.

First round games are to be found here: http://nk.schaakbond.nl/live

The PGN download utility of the 1st rnd games needs some more time I think; I'll update you.

Jun-26-11  achieve: PS - here's the link to the PGN downloads of the Dutch National, keywords on this site:

http://nk.schaakbond.nl/download - 'NK algemeen ronde (1)'

Thanks.

Jun-26-11  Bratek: Can we have a forum for<IX. György Marx Memorial>http://marxgy.ase.hu/en/index.html
Jun-27-11  shivasuri4: < http://www.bidmonfa.com/berkes_fere... > Could you please upload a picture of Ferenc Berkes,a Hungarian GM who's just cracked the 2700 mark(currently 2707.6) in the live rating list,after due permission from the creator of the website?
Jun-27-11  achieve: <chessgames> Have you decided not to create a forum for the Dutch Ch'ship ?

Few years back you seemed to wait until the tourney was already finished. Maybe this is policy with low profile tournaments?

Create, reply, thank you.

Jun-27-11  achieve: <cg> I see my memory served me, here's your reply from september 2009:

sep-16-09: <Third, achieve asked, <Is my notification here at all necessary, i.e., do you have a policy ... to upload games from national championships ... automatically <after> the tournament has finished?> Absolutely we would always get it after it finishes, but telling us before or even during the event is sometimes quite useful.

If you want to make a special request that we cover it on a daily basis, and assuming the main web site is putting out quality PGN daily, then it's a totally reasonable request and we don't want to discourage people from doing that. However, once the event is over the wheels start turning to get the games on our site. In the worst possible scenario it would be a tournament we didn't even know existed, and then in about 6 months we'd go to a source like The Week in Chess and download everything that we've missed in the past few months. You see, twice a year we "resynchronize" our database with the other large online ones.>

There seems to have been a first round hiccup re PGN download in round one, yesterday, but today (2nd round completed) it all worked fine.

So - <If you want to make a special request that we cover it on a daily basis, and assuming the main web site is putting out quality PGN daily, then it's a totally reasonable request and we don't want to discourage people from doing that.> That's indeed my request, and added to that, discussion forums <during> a tournament are most fun as well as relevant, as live play occurs and daily vids, interviews are being put out.

Round 3 starts today, few hours to go Eastern time, so opening the forum would be a great birthday present for Giri who turned 17, just a few hours ago.

Jun-28-11
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  chessgames.com: Congratulations to Ferenc Berkes and thanks to Wikimedia Commons for the great photo.
Jun-28-11
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  chessgames.com: <achieve: <chessgames> Have you decided not to create a forum for the Dutch Ch'ship ?> We're so sorry, we just got to that now. It's really the most exciting thing happening in chess at the moment.

Dutch Championship (2011)

Dutch Championship (Women) (2011)

<Few years back you seemed to wait until the tourney was already finished. Maybe this is policy with low profile tournaments?>

Many years ago we really had a very different outlook on the purpose of the "New Games" bar. We assumed that tourneys would populate that bar once completed, and then--once the tournament was over--people would be happy to discuss them at that time.

People loved it, but only because they were given no other options at all. Let's face it: talking about an event once it is over talks all of the fun out of it. The excitement of the live contest is completely lost. That approach completely ignored the aspect of chess as a spectator sport.

Once our members got a taste of round-by-round updates, they refused to go back to anything else, and we don't blame them in the least. It's more work to do it that way, but it's absolutely worth the extra effort.

So our new attitude is that any tournament fun to follow should go on the homepage the instant we are assured that usable PGN will be available on a regular basis.

<There seems to have been a first round hiccup re PGN download in round one, yesterday, but today (2nd round completed) it all worked fine.>

That's exactly what the holdup was on the Dutch Championships. We should have gotten them up earlier but now that they are up and running we have the games as well.

<great birthday present for Giri who turned 17, just a few hours ago> That's great :) Happy birthday, Anish!

Jun-29-11  achieve: Excellent stuff, <cg>, you just made my day, and I'll pass on the well-wishes to Giri ;)

Looks like quite a lot of games attract kibitzes, and indeed when the discussion forum is up and open, the kibitzers themselves will even provide PGNs of the key games if necessary, or post the moves as the live games take place. And even a day or two lag for a "semi-automatic"(?) upload would be providing fine service. Looks very smooth now. Thanks.

Jun-30-11  shivasuri4: It's quite puzzling that www.chess-results.com says that Daniel Barrish is a FM when his highest rating is 1678.Does anybody have any explanations or is it just a mistake?
Jun-30-11  shivasuri4: As <Benzol> asked,do you mind revealing the identities of the 40 biographers?
Jun-30-11
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  Annie K.: Benzol did not ask cg to reveal the identities of the biographers, he invited them to reveal themselves if they wished to.

There's a difference - a rather big one. Has to do with a concept called 'tact'.

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