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Jul-16-12  Once: <JoergWalter: ... we are all here on our decision.>

... even when we are indulging in rubbish stories/ ancecdotes/ conversation.

Jul-16-12  JoergWalter: <once> yes, all inclusive.
Jul-16-12  shivasuri4: <chessgames.com>, could we please have a forum for the Jermuk Grand Prix, which starts tomorrow?

The participants are Hou Yifan, Humpy Koneru, Zhao Xue, Kateryna Lahno, Ju Wenjun, Nadezhda Kosintseva, Ruan Lufei, Elina Danielian, Nino Khurtsidze, Lilit Mkrtchian, Munguntuul Batkhuyag, and Ekaterina Kovalevskaya.

Jul-16-12  shivasuri4: <Once>, ha, that harsh tidbit by <LTJ> didn't escape your attention, I see.
Jul-16-12  I play the Fred: <This discussion has become more demonstrative of a lack of open-mindedness and manual understanding>

How so? You don't believe that an argument for the status quo is proof of a closed mind, do you?

<on the daily puzzle page, it is about who <can> and who <wants> to make an effort to demonstrate their Chess strength, objectivity and practical handle of the game.>

Maybe that's the case for you; others have different approaches. It sounds as if you are attempting to impose de facto rules on the POTD.

<Of course, posters are welcome to come in and type a bunch of rubbish stories/ancecdotes/conversation, but in reality what makes the daily puzzle interesting from a Chess point of view are the ideas expressed in Chess notation pertaining to the puzzle position.>

For you, that's true; you don't get to decide that for everyone else.

<This said, even when you have the posters who just like to talk on there, that's alright too: There is a social component to the daily puzzle, and I respect/celebrate that and the diversity that comes with it!>

If that's true, then why describe them as <rubbish>? Thanks for the g

Jul-16-12
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  chessgames.com: Thanks shiva, here you go: Women Grand Prix Jermuk (2012)
Jul-16-12
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  chessgames.com: Let's keep this discussion peaceful please. Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but please use this forum only for suggestions and questions.
Jul-16-12  benjinathan: Do you know the first post ever on chessgames?
Jul-16-12
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  WannaBe: Probably 'Webmaster'. The Kibitzer's Café
Jul-16-12
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  chessgames.com: <benjinathan> We could dig up the first post in the database--in fact let's do that--but that might not actually be the very first post to CG.

Let me explain: From the very start we realized that there were an awful lot of duplicate players and duplicate games (you think it's bad now? hah!) so one of the first tasks we did was merge duplicates. These days the software is smart enough to actually *merge* the data, keeping things like kibitzing and game-collections intact. In the early days the kibitzes were lost when things were merged. So it's quite possible, in fact perhaps inevitable, that the very first few posts got accidentally merged away sometime in 2002-2003.

Anyhow to answer your question, the very earliest post that is still in the database is found on this game page Blackburne vs Jebson, 1862: <Sargon: After 15. Nf6+ what's wrong with ...gxf6?>

However, it's worth mentioning that Sargon is actually 20/20 Technologies employee Lee Cummings. His question was chess-related and legitimate, but you probably want to know the first *non* admin post, i.e. the first "real post." For that you have to go to the very first page on the venerable Viktor Korchnoi page for this one: <Smartypants: I hear he's been having a good year.>

Jul-16-12  technical draw: On the POTD. I have been here for 9 years. I have NEVER participated in the POTD. Not once. I did smoke POT once, but I didn't inhale. Carry on.
Jul-16-12  Robed.Bishop: <technical draw: I have NEVER participated in the POTD. Not Once.>

Do you mean you don't attempt to solve the puzzles or you work on the puzzles but don't comment on them?

I'm certain there are many users who review the puzzles who don't feel compelled to chat about it.

Jul-16-12  technical draw: <Robed.Bishop> I mean I have never even looked at them. In fact I don't know where to find them.
Jul-16-12  I play the Fred: The only thing I would change about the POTD is that I would like to see those posts off of the <Recent Kibitzing> page. I've had a few puzzles spoiled that way.
Jul-16-12  Robed.Bishop: <TD> Interesting. Thank you for responding.
Jul-17-12  LIFE Master AJ: I just submitted Uhlmann-Paehtz, 1984. Pretty game, should make a nice POTD one day.
Jul-17-12  Memethecat: <Of course, posters are welcome to come in and type a bunch of rubbish stories/ancecdotes/conversation, but in reality what makes the daily puzzle interesting from a Chess point of view are the ideas expressed in Chess notation pertaining to the puzzle position.> Your magnanimity is humbling, knowing that the rest of us are 'welcome' to post what we want on the POTD forum is comforting, thanks for that.

<I take pride in the fact that I make the strongest possible efforts to show up day-in/day-out to solve the puzzles, type my solutions and post them: This is the hardest thing to do on the daily puzzle page.> Well...its not compulsory, if you feel like taking a break I reckon the rest of us would be able to struggle on in your absence, if it does become too tough we could ask CG.com to send an S.O.S to your email.

Jul-17-12  benjinathan: <cg> Thanks!

Not exactly "One small step...".

Jul-18-12
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  OhioChessFan: What exactly is the relationship between Chessgames.com and 20/20 Tech?
Jul-19-12  vvv: 20/20 Technologies is actually a side business started by Barbara Walters when she had some time to kill in the 90s. Motivated by a secret passion for Chess, and heeding an inner desire to share this secret passion, but in an anonymous manner, she set out to build a Chess Utopia in the Wild West that was the Web. Her vision would ultimately become Chessgames.com. Programming in Perl by day and broadcasting to millions by night, she led a double life. She could never tell anyone about this thing between herself and Chess. What would people think? After awhile, the stress of chess and the glamour of the camera took its toll, and Barbara Walters walked away from both. It is said that she still makes an appearance at the headquarters of 20/20 Technologies from time to time, dropping by to help the new hires with regular expressions and the like, but those times are becoming more and more infrequent.

In short, Chessgames.com and 20/20 Tech have one link: Barbara Walters.

Jul-19-12  Memethecat: Is it true that after Barbara Walters interviewed Bobby Fischer, a short affair ensued & led to a love child that was locked in a broom cupboard....& is still there?
Jul-19-12  Benzol: I thought 20/20 Technologies employees just worked at <chessgames> during their lunch breaks and spare time.

:)

Jul-19-12  tolengoy: Hi CG!

Can you feature my game below in the homepage "White to Play and Win " puzzle? Thanks.

[Event "ChessCube Game"]
[Site "www.chesscube.com"]
[Date "2012.07.14"]
[Round "-"]
[White "nielyoung@chesscube.com"]
[Black "dejanb@chesscube.com"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2005"]
[BlackElo "1852"]
[Time "02:08:10"]
[TimeControl "900"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. e3 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. d4 c5 5. dxc5 Bxc5 6. a3 O-O 7. Nbd2 dxc4 8. Bxc4 b6 9. Qc2 Bb7 10. b4 Be7 11. Bb2 h6 12. h4 Nc6 13. Ng5 g6 14. Bxe6 hxg5 15. Qxg6+ 1-0

Jul-19-12  tolengoy: Kindly use this link:

http://pgnplayer.com/

to play over the game.

Just copy and paste the game's pgn and you're ready to go

Thanks.

Jul-19-12
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  chessgames.com: <OhioChessFan: What exactly is the relationship between Chessgames.com and 20/20 Tech?>

The short version: 20/20 Technologies is a web development company gave birth to a chess site that soon became 100 times bigger than the company from which it was born. Daniel Freeman, the former vice-president of 20/20 Technologies, is now the CEO of Chessgames.

A more detailed version is this:

20/20 Technologies is one of the first web development companies, founded in 1995 by Daniel Freeman and Lee Cummings. In 2001 we were commissioned by Albert Artidiello to create a chess site. Albert had limited-funding but big dreams, so in the early years (2002, 2003) 20/20 agreed to do extensive work on Chessgames in exchange for a stake in the website's business (which at the time was zero, as there wasn't even such a thing as a premium membership, and the advertising didn't even cover the hosting fees.)

For a while it seemed like a really fun side-project but not a business per se. But then, around 2004-2005, the site launched its premium membership and turned profitable. At that stage, Chessgames was capable of actually paying for its development work, hiring GM commentators, etc. Chessgames could have gone to any web development company in the world at that point, but obviously it was in everybody's best interest to keep working with 20/20 Technologies.

In gratitude for all they've done, Chessgames continues to put a link to 20/20 Technologies at the bottom of every page.

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