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| Dec-22-13 | | N0B0DY: (but one) likes the idea, <chessgames.com>! <I agree that there seems to be sitewise peace, at least for now. > Peace is just the short period in between two wars. <However, I am concerned that keeping your games off limits for kibitzing may be a cornerstone of that peace.>
Ever heard of Pandora's box?
<You know what is written on those pages. There is very little constructive. Bringing it back to life just invites people to rekindle extinguished flames.> I'm looking forward to seeing it again. <But I'm never 100% sure about these things. Maybe it would be a fine idea, and people might be polite. I would like to see nothing more.> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. <Let's revisit this subject in 2114.> Fixed it for you. |
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Dec-22-13
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Merry Christmas admins and colleagues!
No matter what the future might hold, I have to congratulate <AJ>, <TheFocus>, and <Colonel Mortimer> in particular for their recent peacekeeping accomplishment. It is a joy to sign in to this site at the moment, in large part due to these three gentlemen currently treating each other with respect and kindness. I can only speak for myself, but I believe in miracles, especially Christmas miracles. |
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| Dec-22-13 | | Karpova: <chessgames.com>
Thanks for uploading the games!
The game Kondor-Kopriva is missing - is the reason the game itself or the missing result. I just saw that I forgot to supply it. White won. Black did not resign and the game was ended after 7.5 hours. Then a committee of two Brno and two Viennese players, plus an arbiter judged the game and in unison declared White the winner. So Vienna beat Brno 6:4. I submit the game again with result and then you can decide what is easier for you, to allow the newly submitted one or correct the already submitted game score. |
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Dec-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: I'd like to see LMAJ's games reopened. Not because I want to post there, but simply in the interests of fairness.
Some former 'troop' members have indicated that they will not offend again. Maybe peace *has* broken out. All in all, a new year re-opening is a good idea. |
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| Dec-22-13 | | Jim Bartle: <domdaniel> My comment waa intended to cover all plagiarism, not just chess. I agree lines of analysis or a few comments may naturally be identical, or similar. But when lines of text are the same move after move, or if the analysis is identical move after move, it's stealing from the original source. How hard is it to give credit to the original author? Then it's not plagiarism, unless it's one paragraph after another. |
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| Dec-22-13 | | MostlyAverageJoe: <Domdaniel: ... I think that chess annotations are different from 'ordinary' writing, simply because so many of the comments must necessarily be repeated.> Well, from what I've seen, these were not just repeated; many were copied word-for-word. The proper form is to put exactly-copied sentences in quotes and cross-reference them to the list of sources. Slight paraphrasing also should be cross-referenced. Without following common civil rules of attributing, I agree with what <Jim Bartle> said: it is unquestionably a theft of intellectual property. |
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Dec-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: <Jim Bartle> Essentially, you're quite right. And those Keene cases involving large-scale copying are just indefensible, I agree. My point is just that chess notes aren't always easy to write without (seemingly) borrowing from other sources. |
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| Dec-22-13 | | MostlyAverageJoe: Hey, <CG>, it would be really neat if you could add the following to each clue:
* the exact time when it was released
* the exact time when the prize banner got clicked
* identify runners-up -- anyone who clicked a premium banner and saw this: http://i.imgur.com/XEYCW.jpg and also implement <Al Wazir>'s idea from Kibitzer's Café regarding the winner recognition. Also, consider differentiating between banners used for premium prizes and the 4-month extensions; this would help some to keep under the 5-prize limit and keep hunting for the premium one. Of course one might end up with 4 prizes, but this would have a beneficial impact of leaving more prizes for the others (consider that last year, 30 of the 64 prizes were grabbed by 6 people, and there were only 32 distinct winners while the first 3 years saw 40/43/41 distinct names on the winners' list). All of the above should be trivial to implement.
MAJ, impersonating a broken record (I submitted similar ideas years ago, but have not noticed any responses). |
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Dec-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: <CG> I support the suggestions made by <MAJ>. In particular, how about an (extra) prize for the fastest solution to a Clue? (I don't think I'd be in the run for this, btw). It would be good to be able to see (a) the time a particular Clue appeared, and (b) the time it was solved. |
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| Dec-22-13 | | MostlyAverageJoe: Another variation on the enhancements of the Holiday Present Hunt: Premise: premium prizes should go to the most difficult puzzles. Observation: the most difficult puzzles are those which take the longest time to solve. Proposal: defer the allocation of the premium prizes until the end of the contest. This could get interesting in the combination with the knowledge of the time each already-solved clue lasted. I could imagine several people waiting out the 64th clue, each with one eye on the winning banner and another on a stopwach, waiting to click at the exact time the puzzle's duration would bring it into the premium pool. Of course, that kind of fun could be partially spoiled by not disclosing how many premium prizes are available and/or not releasing the puzzle timestamps until after the clue has been solved. |
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Dec-22-13
 | | Stonehenge: Not to spoil the fun, but what about a checkbox <don't show the holiday present hunt>? For those that should not be trying to solve these puzzles because they have other things to do, but cannot resist them :) |
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Dec-22-13
 | | OhioChessFan: They could put that checkbox right next to the <don't show chessgames.com> box. |
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Dec-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: Those that have other things to do should just go and do them.
Hey, problem solved. |
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Dec-22-13
 | | OhioChessFan: Yeah, but I've had something to do for 2 hours now and haven't managed to sign out of cg.c. |
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Dec-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: <Ohio> You should log out, now. Chessgames will still be here when you get back. Which might not be the case with your other situations.
Happy Christmas! |
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Dec-22-13
 | | chessgames.com: <Proposal: defer the allocation of the premium prizes until the end of the contest.> We are open to ideas to change the rules of the Present Hunt. We were even toying with ideas of almost exactly that nature before the 2013 Present Hunt, but pressed for time and low on clues we decided the easiest course of action would be to leave everything exactly the same. One concern is that sometimes a puzzle stays up for a very long time, not because it's a very good puzzle, but because it's too vague, or possibly even flawed. For instance, our grand prize puzzle this year ("Sightseeing") wasn't insanely difficult, but it took a good bit of effort, it was perfectly fair, had no glaring mistakes, and was certainly not American-centric. So we can say for sure the winner deserved it. But back in 2011 the grand prize would have gone to tpstar for finally deciphering our ridiculous <8 = 93m> clue after multiple hints. I would rather see one of our best clues carry the prize than a weird/vague/wrong clue. Anyhow, thanks for the ideas. As FIDE seems to want November to be the annual WCC month, next year we'll start thinking about these things in the summer before things get too hectic. |
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Dec-22-13
 | | chessgames.com: <Karpova> Merry Christmas: Kondor vs Kopriva, 1923. We put a note at the end "White adjudicated winner." |
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Dec-22-13
 | | chessgames.com: <Stonehenge: Not to spoil the fun, but what about a checkbox <don't show the holiday present hunt>> <OhioChessFan: They could put that checkbox right next to the <don't show chessgames.com> box.> Chessgames Services LLC is indemnified against lost productivity for the use of the site. It's in your terms of service. :-) |
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Dec-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: <CG> It may be in my terms of service, but I've lost a lot of productivity in the past 7 years ... I don't mind, though. Best wishes ... |
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Dec-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: < Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.>
Hey up, Santayana, they're repeating the past down below... |
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| Dec-22-13 | | The Last Straw: <CG> Terms of service? Most of us don't bother read that lol |
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| Dec-22-13 | | Alien Math: It some thing to read while wait for 30 pages to load lol |
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| Dec-22-13 | | Abdel Irada: <MostlyAverageJoe: Hey, CG, you might want to correct the comment for Klu#47: <COMMENT: The NN in this case is Niels Nielsen, playing the Polish Defense (1.e4 b5).>> I thought that was called the "Oops."
(The kingside equivalent, 1. d4, g5?, is sometimes mistakenly called the Borg (Grob reversed) Gambit, but initiates of the system prefer to call it the Refuted Variation.) ∞ |
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Dec-23-13
 | | Domdaniel: <CG> -- < pressed for time and low on clues ...>
You can probably expect to get a few clue suggestions before next year's event. Several people seem to be interested in offering you their ideas, having seen Ohio's suggestions this year.
Would you care to make an explicit statement about clues offered by members? Presumably, the originator of any such clue is barred from winning it. Are there any other conditions? And do you accept ideas? |
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| Dec-23-13 | | Karpova: <chessgames.com>
Thanks! I found two miniatures by Istvan Abonyi in the 1915 newspaper, yet no date is given. Is there a way to upload them into the database anyway? |
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