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Jan-28-14  Golden Executive: Ok, I noticed I had a connection to chessgames.com (via my mobile phone). I closed it, restarted my pc, and seems it worked, but not 100%. I still need to click the refresh button at least, twice.
Jan-28-14
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  WannaBe: <GE> If you click it once and wait, does it load? Sometimes the java code takes a while to load/kick in.

(I don't know your compuetr's age or anything...)

Jan-28-14  Golden Executive: Now I will take a look at my java configuration.

I am sorry <cg> for flooding this forum.:(

Jan-29-14  thomastonk: <chessgames.com> The Manila Interzonal 1990 is a tournament with 410 games. I collected these games, added dates and round numbers, and begun to write an introduction. My intention is to nominate the collection as a tournament, but then I was stopped by this message:

<ERROR: You are limited to 400 games per collection.>

Can you please increase this bound a little bit? Thanks.

Jan-29-14
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  chessgames.com: <Can you please increase this bound a little bit?> OK, we'll say it's 450.
Jan-29-14
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  chessgames.com: <Golden Executive: Ok, I noticed I had a connection to chessgames.com (via my mobile phone). I closed it> That's really not necessary. You can be signed into Chessgames from multiple devices.

<restarted my pc> Never a bad idea when things seem strange.

<and seems it worked, but not 100%. I still need to click the refresh button at least, twice.> Often when I hear of problems like that it's a cache setting on the browser, especially for MSIE users.

This graphic illustrates:

http://www.udel.edu/sakai/help/cont...

Note that for "Check for newer versions of stored pages" the correct setting should be "Automatically" or better still, "Every time". The other two settings are rarely appropriate.

(taken from http://www.udel.edu/sakai/help/cont...)

Jan-29-14
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <cg> A couple of questions...

1. I've been spending time in the Pun Voting Booth lately and the experience can only be described as M Fuller vs M Pein, 1979. I remember you throwing away - and having a good laugh at - the really bad puns a year and a half ago (chessgames.com chessforum)... but what actually prompted my inquiry was seeing a pun with no game attached, presumably because the game had been deleted. Is there any automated mechanism in place to tag a pun for deletion when the relevant game no longer exists, or is that simply too rare an occurrence to be worth an extra couple lines of code?

2. The Librarian is doing a great job on the whole (thanks!), but for some reason nothing seems to happen when I point out incorrect sacrifice indicators. I'd have thought removing bad sac indicators would be relatively painless as no deep research or triple-checking is required - is there a technical issue involved that makes such things difficult to fix, or means corrections don't show up in the database at once?

3. <chessgames.com: <Would you care to make an explicit statement about [Holiday Hunt] clues offered by members?> We think that would be a good idea; give us some time to figure out our policy.>

Any update?

Jan-29-14  Benzol: <cg> can you please let me know when I crack the 5,000 games submissions mark.
Jan-29-14
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  FSR: <davide2013: Sorry I found these two games which are horrible, and played between 1200-1500 rated players (I didn't even know FIDE went so down, I thought the minimum was around 1800-1900) Maybe they should removed from the database, and if we need some games for that particular opening line, I could provide some between computers, at least they know how to move the pieces. T Magnusson vs R Ramtin, 2013 Yeonhee Cho vs Mi Wang, 2012>

They're not <good> games, no doubt about it, but both have some entertainment value IMO.

Jan-29-14
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  chessgames.com: Switching

<but what actually prompted my inquiry was seeing a pun with no game attached, presumably because the game had been deleted. Is there any automated mechanism in place to tag a pun for deletion when the relevant game no longer exists> No, there's no automated function for that. I don't think that happens very often, and I can delete them on sight. I often delete really bad puns when I see them in the queue, although there are many puns it's an impossible task to keep up with.

<The Librarian is doing a great job on the whole (thanks!), but for some reason nothing seems to happen when I point out incorrect sacrifice indicators.> You know, she's been forwarding a lot of those to me lately. Her chess skills are maybe 1200 Elo tops, so she doesn't like making decisions that require actual chess skill, so she likes to run them by me. I should tell her that we can pretty much trust people when they complain about bad sacrifice indications.

In fact, perhaps editing Sacrifice Explorer data could be one of the issues relegated to CG Editors.

<<chessgames.com: <Would you care to make an explicit statement about [Holiday Hunt] clues offered by members?> We think that would be a good idea; give us some time to figure out our policy.> Any update?> Not at this time. We're torn over whether it should be a policy to exempt people who submit ideas from participation in the rest of the contest.

Jan-29-14
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  WannaBe: I don't think if a member submit (a) clue(s) should be barred from participating in the other puzzles/prizes, of course, "Solving" your own puzzle would hardly be consider'd "Sporting".
Jan-29-14
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  chessgames.com: <davide2013: Sorry I found these two games which are horrible> The cases you showed were from a large open in 2013 and an olympiad in 2012: both cases where poor quality games can be expected to enter the db. We have utilities to remove bad games from the database, bad being defined in a slippery way but mostly both players have be under a certain Elo and neither player should be a player of note (no kibitzing on their game pages, no biography, etc.)

I think I'll run it on those two tournaments and it's likely those games will not survive.

The "bad game killer" always spares games that are either in somebody's game collection or that have kibitzing. So never make a post to a game page suggesting that it's so bad it should be removed—doing that will ironically grant the game a reprieve. The ideal method is to use a correction slip: there is a checkbox that says <The quality of this game is very poor>.

Jan-29-14
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  chessgames.com: <Benzol> Sure, I'll check when I process your next batch.

<Switching> I just asked the Librarian and she says there are only two of your correction slips outstanding with regards to bad sacrifices (and I'll review them now). Do you really perceive a backlog of them? If so, show me a few examples.

Jan-29-14
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <cg> There haven't been all that many of them (more than two, though). It's just that most of my other correction slips are processed so rapidly - and for most of those that aren't I can imagine her having a reason for not completely trusting the change suggested - that the inaction with bad sac indicators stands out.
Jan-29-14
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  chessgames.com: <Benzol> I count 5114. Congratulations on the milestone and thank you for all your help.
Jan-29-14  Golden Executive: <cg> I adjusted the settings of the IE and seems everything is ok.Thanks for your support.

<WannaBe> Thanks, I left a message at your forum.

Jan-30-14  Karpova: <chessgames.com>

The quote of the day is not from Spielmann, see my post Rudolf Spielmann and the source contained therein.

Jan-30-14
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  chessgames.com: Thanks Karpova.
Jan-30-14
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  Domdaniel: <davide2013> -- < if we need some games for that particular opening line, I could provide some between computers>

This, in my view, is a mistake. Obviously, computer games can be found (or constructed) to fit any opening line. But the database is about more than that -- it's a record of games played by human beings. While high quality games are preferable, there is no need for all the games to be exemplary. Unless the quality of play is truly terrible on both sides (and opinions on this may vary) I think I'd prefer to see games remain in the database.

Jan-30-14
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  chessgames.com: We don't accept computer-vs-computer games unless there is some special circumstance surrounding the game, like the World Computer Chess Championship.
Jan-31-14
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  WCC Editing Project:

Good afternoon.

Remember when I was complaining that when you type <Petrov> into the search box, it wouldn't cough up Vladimir Petrov, but then you fixed it?

I'm talking about the search box in the upper left hand corner of our main page.

The same thing is happening with this player: Carel Benjamin van den Berg

If you type <van den Berg> into the search box, nothing comes up.

In order to get this link, I had to google his name + the word "chess."

Might you fix this guy up like you did for <Petrov>?

I don't mean to Kristian Skold you. I know I'm often in here "cap in hand."

Jan-31-14
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <Eddie> Just use Advanced Search. There are more than 70,000 players in the database, including thousands if not tens of thousands who can't be located by an EZ search for their surname. Making special rules for individual players is a very slippery slope.

Incidentally, searching for "Carel Benjamin van den Berg" or even "Carel van den Berg" would have worked.

Jan-31-14
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  WCC Editing Project: <Volvos for Wolves>

I already had this discussion with <Annie> when I asked <Daniel> to fix the "Petrov" results from the upper left corner search box.

I think a lot of the punters, especially the thick ones, automatically use the search box in the upper left hand corner. It's easy to see and only has one word on it- "search."

These punters I speak of find the bewildering array of boxes and "typed information" in the main search box bewildering.

I'm sure you won't find it hard to believe that I was here at cg.com on a daily basis for more than six (6) years before I even realized where the "main search box" was. <Annie> gave me explicit written instructions on how to find it and I still had to ask her a second time.

At any rate, I think I'm right about this. I think a lot of people use the upper left hand corner search box, so for that reason alone this box is worth maintaining.

Plus <Daniel> fixed <Petrov> so I'm sure he can fix <Chris DeBurgh> too, even if he doesn't care for his records.

Jan-31-14
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  WCC Editing Project: "Eddie"

heh..

Jan-31-14
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <WCC Editing Project: Plus <Daniel> fixed <Petrov> so I'm sure he can fix <Chris DeBurgh> too, even if he doesn't care for his records.>

He can. I don't doubt that for a second.

The thing is that it's not just van den Berg. If they fix van den Berg, what next? Van der Wal? Van der Sterren? Van Elteren? There are tons of people named "van" something that the EZ search doesn't work properly with, so it's not really worth "fixing" just one - and even if they write more sweeping code that solves the issue for all players named van X (which would be a real improvement) they're still left with some 30,000 players who can't be located with an EZ search for their surname, simply because they share it with a better-known player.

In other words, the idea that you can find any player by an EZ search for their surname is a non-starter. At the very least searching for their full name is required, and as we saw that already works in van den Berg's case.

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