I wonder though, what exactly is sah.hr - some kind of public forum for general posting?

Who put the photographs on there?

Many of our photos appeal to fair-use, and this one is no exception, but we try to avoid that when possible.

Actually, isn't it more accurate to say from "by *lack* of international treaty"?

And specifically, for pre-1980(?), before USSR became a signatory to some kind of international copyright treaty?

This is the impression I have from watching Sam Sloan discuss the matter on a youtube video, in connection with his Anshua book publishing company.

Basically, they didn't respect "our" copyright laws, so we didn't respect theirs, during most of the B&W era. I don't think this is the situation today, or even during the end of the USSR-era.

OK, I looked it up:

<After the October Revolution, the Soviet Union had no international copyright relations until 1967, when a first treaty with Hungary was concluded. In 1973, the USSR then joined the Universal Copyright Convention (UCC), establishing copyright relations with Western countries. More bilateral treaties followed, including two with Western countries (Austria in 1981 and Sweden in 1986), until the government announced its intention to join the Berne Convention in 1989. The USSR was dissolved before that plan could be realized. The Russian Federation acceded to the Berne Convention in 1994; the treaty entered in force in Russia on March 13, 1995.>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...

So, I stand corrected, the date is 1973, not 1980.

<However, determining the source of these photos can be a daunting task.>

I try to document the source of all my submissions, as you know. Most are found old chess journals, or wiki-commons (which also generally gives good attributions).

I was wondering about the sourcing of some of <Tab>'s photos in the links. I'm still wondering if he published them on the sah.hr forum, or just found them there.

<Many of our photos appeal to fair-use, and this one is no exception, but we try to avoid that when possible.>

I tend to largely agree with the "fair-use" claim for <CG>, though being a commercial site complicates the argument.

Normally, if I didn't produce the photo from my own scan, I use the copyright filter of a Google image search to pre-select all potential candidates. It's useful, though I am basically trusting Google's assessment.

The Momic photo was one I thought justified to submit via fair use. It was a scan from a "modern" newspaper - but if a photograph from an obituary isn't "fair use", then what is?

<By the way <Zanzibar> -- I know there is a pile of photos you've dug up, we're going to go through them soon and use what we can.>

Somewhere I own a wonderful Soviet Chess Encylopedia, and it has no end of wonderful chess art. I'm sure it has many images of GMs which are hard to come by. They used a technique which seems to be some kind of modified photography, with an emphasis to artistically enhance the image. The 1960s version of Photoshop, if you will.

It's certainly not a priority, at least for <CG>! (The fans, on the other hand...)

Nice to know the origins of the photo.

Of course I use it to joke around, but I thought that if you put it up for the facebook crowd then why shouldn't the <CG> also have the pleasure.

And don't get a fat head or nothing, but I still think it's a nice photo - capturing some of your easy-going friendliness, etc, etc.

Not to worry, I didn't just single you out, I submitted a slew of photos, maybe 50 of 'em!

We should make a project to scan and upload some of the photos from it.>

I've had the Soviet School of Chess for years, since the 60s. Now I think of it it has that slightly 'enhanced' look. In a way though it is a little like the Hollywood film annuals of film stars. I have no idea what colour printing methods they had. The SSoC is B&W and has some good photographs of the grandmasters and international masters.

Intelligent Serious New Player or Strong Player Wanting Ideas and News Etc?

------> (Relevant kibitzing place)

Moron? Head full of Drivel & Bilge?

------> Kibitzer's Cafe.

<
шахматы
ЭНЦИКЛОПЕДИЧЕСКИЙ СЛОВАРЬ
>

which translates to:

<
chess
ENCYCLOPEDIC
GLOSSARY
>

or <Chess Encyclopedia Dictionary>.

"The Soviet School of Chess" (Советская шахматная школа) by Alexander Kotov and Mikhal Yudovich was first published in Russian in Moscow 1951. The authors of this book have endeavoured "to show the vigour of Soviet chess and to outline its distinguishing features".

http://www.amazon.com/Soviet-School...

"Chess: Encyclopaedic Dictionary" (Шахматы: Энциклопедический словарь) by Karpov, Averbakh et al was published by Soviet Encyclopedia in Moscow 1990. It is a comprehensive chess encyclopedia.

The other day I sold some old Shakmatys to the (almost the only) player (an FM) in our club who can even read chess Russian.

The other, a Master from Russia wasn't so interested I think.

I never bothered trying to read 'chess Russian'. I also had a book in German he took as it was by Keres, whom he had met, as indeed Ortvin Sarapu knew him (both Estonian)...so he, through Ortvin, had met Keres.

But it was interesting for me as a boy to see that book (in English).

We need a way to make new pages just about positions, with their own discussion forum, and so forth. And yes, once you're on the position page, it should be "playable". In other words, a new table which is an archive of FEN codes that users can create on demand. I call these "FEN pages" but perhaps a more user-friendly term would be "Position pages".

The only requirement is that it's a FEN we haven't seen before. (There should be only one discussion forum for any given position; we don't need two.)

The Opening Explorer would link to such pages when appropriate.

I agree that the best title for the latter is <Chess Encyclopedic Dictionary>.

(Using American spelling conventions of course)

That's the one I have, and it's quite useful, and worth the hard effort to translate (it uses many abbrevs which are a difficult challenge for me at times).