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| Feb-21-16 | | Caissanist: I know that some players have control of their own personal pages--has any thought been given to expanding this to having a few trusted longtime users oversee other pages? I ask because the FIDE Women's Grand Prix Tehran (2016) page has morphed into a bizarre discussion of Chinese territorial claims and treatment of minority groups. I really don't want the site admins to waste their time on this one, but it would be nice if that page had at least a tenuous relationship to the tournament. |
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Feb-21-16
 | | AylerKupp: <morfishine> Use this link to submit a suggestion for GOTD and it's title: Pun Submission Page. It would be nice if <chessgames.com> made this link easier to find but perhaps they are concerned that they will then be inundated with inane GOTD suggestions and even more inane GOTD titles. Like my recent on. Oooops! I guess I let the cat out of the bag! Sorry, <chessgames.com>. :-) |
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| Feb-21-16 | | optimal play: <MissScarlett: Eat not of the low-hanging fruit: Mecking vs A Rocha, 1969 <<CG> memorializes all GOTD's/puns in a collection it automatically maintains and makes available.> Game Collection: Game of the Day Pun Index (A-B)> Ah, so that's how we can tell if a pun has already been used! Thanks for that!
I've previously just typed my proposed pun into 'search' to check whether it has already been used, but that obviously doesn't work! |
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Feb-21-16
 | | tpstar: <chessgames.com> You could spin this mess around. If GOTD titles are your biggest controversy, then things are going swimmingly. <Perhaps a year lock-down on a pun should also apply> GOTD titles are *never* changed, except when a previous GOTD makes the year end Top Ten. < I don't have a problem with a pun being applied from one game to another> The goal has *always* been to invent something fresh. I have maintained that the Best Games contest is worth doing as long as we have five voters make complete lists of ten games. For the last few years, we've had 10-15 participate each time. If the site truly wants to disavow themselves from this "private" voting process then please let me know. It is presently a niche activity for serious students and certainly not meant to cause all these headaches. The anti-hero act has never worked here: <WMD>, <CrackerSmack>, the Ray Keene crowd, the hate group, the two cyberstalkers, the two criminals. Even so, there are posters who delight in using this site to hurt people, like the Life Master who broke the rules all the time, and the Carlsen Fanboy who used his player page to post paragraph after paragraph after paragraph of personal attacks against other users. People who choose to be "persistent detractors" and criticize other users' work product (someone had to suggest the GOTD title) may not realize the intense pain and suffering they cause. Yet this can also be spun around, as otherwise they would be smothering Americans, beheading infidels, slaughtering aborigines, beating their wives, abusing their children, terrorizing their pets, and voting for Hillary Clinton. An open challenge to all complainers. Take the same list and propose ten new GOTD ideas that have not been used yet. Right now, in real time. Remember there are four Magnus Carlsen games. Game Collection: Best Games of 2015 If you cannot, Spank the Booty! |
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| Feb-21-16 | | zanzibar: What does it mean...
"Spank the Booty!"
It has a tone that strikes me as more anti-(hero or something else) then collaborative. So, being a "numpy", the problem isn't that GOTD's are bumping each other, but rather that the Top-10 gets priority over GOTD? If that's the case I don't understand how coming up with a new idea does collide with an already punned game. I'm not really sure if I should spend much more effort to understand this... not having a dog in the fight, sort of speech. But if the Top-10 is a separate entity/concept why should it bump the pun? A top-10 game isn't voted on for the pun, but for the chess. Why not just adopt a pre-existing pun when making the list. There's bound to be enough games, sans pun, to work on. |
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| Feb-22-16 | | twinlark: <Hi ceegee>
Ta: Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2016) |
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Feb-22-16
 | | Annie K.: <A top-10 game isn't voted on for the pun, but for the chess. Why not just adopt a pre-existing pun when making the list. There's bound to be enough games, sans pun, to work on.> This looks like the best solution to me too, going forward. :) |
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Feb-22-16
 | | chessgames.com: To clarify, my reference to tpstar being a "warlock" and the recurring meme of "Spank the Booty" are references to this post which I somehow came across Kenneth Rogoff (kibitz #204268). Anyhow I think the local warlock summed it up nicely when he said that if our biggest worry here is friction caused by the daily pun, everything must be going swimmingly. Perhaps what we need is a new pun contest. The original ("Get Thee to a Punnery") was about 5 years ago; a renewed effort should be fun if nothing else. |
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| Feb-22-16 | | zanzibar: Thanks <CG> for digging that out... the best I could come up with was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUP...
which is a bit longish, but at least momentarily entertaining, even if it drones on a bit before getting to the booty. Gheesh though, what some people will do for a little attention. Must be a New York thing. |
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Feb-22-16
| | Annie K.: <cg: <which I somehow came across>> No doubt somebody blew the whistle about it. :D
<Anyhow I think the local warlock summed it up nicely when he said that if our biggest worry here is friction caused by the daily pun, everything must be going swimmingly.> Absolutely!
And for the record, I also completely agree with <tpstar> that certain members here, who make a habit of constantly criticising GOTD puns, thereby lowering the motivation of pun submitters (who are mostly just trying to help really good games to see the light of GOTD exposure), and doing nothing constructive thereby at all, could really use a nice big cup of STFU. Please. :p A new pun contest may be a very nice idea. :) |
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Feb-22-16
 | | Domdaniel: "Mecking is catching"
Nice pun, <Optimal>. |
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Feb-22-16
| | Domdaniel: <tpstar> - < otherwise they would be smothering Americans, beheading infidels, slaughtering aborigines, beating their wives, abusing their children, terrorizing their pets, and voting for Hillary Clinton> Hmm. I would happily do precisely one of those, if I could. But I can't. "No horse, no wife, no moustache"
- Robert Anton Wilson |
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| Feb-22-16 | | Alien Math: <chessgames.com> Thanks for start of clarifying the order for last and first names of players, could help clean the constant attacks against other nations on the FIDE Women's Grand Prix Tehran (2016) page? would appreciate |
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Feb-22-16
| | chessgames.com: Just thinking out-loud:
Every game (not just GOTD) might have it's own separate voting area. Members can suggest a title or vote on other suggestions. Once a title has enough votes it goes to the top of the page. Anybody interested in seeing 2nd or 3rd place entries can click somewhere to see them as well, along with the submitter. That way, if a title changes, the previous honors are not entirely stripped away. The GOTD feature would of course continue, but we'll either use the title already voted-in, or if there isn't one, we'll come up with our typical schtick that everybody loves to hate. The difference is, now it's only a starting point. This would make the current pun voting booth somewhat obsolete, but I could imagine replacing it with a feature where volunteers go from game to game to cast pun-votes. For those who rage against the unending abominations which are the daily pun, there would then be a way to come up with an improvement and see it replaced. (But if they find themselves complaining without being able to offer an improvement, "Spank the Booty!") |
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Feb-22-16
| | chessgames.com: <the constant attacks against other nations on the FIDE Women's Grand Prix Tehran (2016) page> We've been flooded with complaints about the discussion taking place there recently, and it's one of those situations where we don't even know where to begin. The major policy rules (obscenity, attacks, etc.) are not being egregiously violated but the link between geopolitics and the FIDE Women's Grand Prix is absurdly off-topic. We hate to delete well written posts by respected members but I think we've reached the point where there are no options left. |
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Feb-22-16
| | Domdaniel: Re: <FIDE Women's Grand Prix> ... I haven't closely followed the controversial posts on this page, but I think any suggestion by <Alien Math> is a good idea. |
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Feb-22-16
| | chessgames.com: <MissScarlet> You are correct that we did not appreciate that Caleta was simply the name of a hotel; we were under the misapprehension that it was the name of the city in which the hotel was located. In our defense, that's the only sensible conclusion we could derive from the PGN as we received it. <That's why I suggested "Hotel Caleta, Catalan Bay GIB".> In retrospect that's a fine suggestion. Because it's not typical to name the venue in the Site tag, I think <Catalan Bay GIB> will satisfy both the need for brevity and accuracy. |
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Feb-22-16
 | | Tabanus: <Moreover, since only one editor is doing this, it creates inconsistent formatting from page to page.> CG, it's a formatting issue. The brackets (<Background>) don't work unless there is a text, a dot or something in front. They also don't work right after a formatted table. |
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| Feb-22-16 | | zanzibar: RE: Sorting lists
Again, a request - can we have some sensible default sorting? I found mention of a Mr. H. Meyer as editor in Westminster CC Papers. So I did a search on <CG> for such a player: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... Any kind of sorting other than by rating would be helpful for me. Even sorting on <CG> name, or on years, or ... Will <CG> ever consider a default sorting default? Or better yet, the ability to sort by clicking on a column header? |
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| Feb-22-16 | | zanzibar: By the way, trying to put a year in on a player search seems a "bad" idea - at least currently: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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| Feb-22-16 | | zanzibar: Some unusual topics do often get discussed on <CG> pages: K Marx vs Meyer, 1867 My vote, in regards to the Tehran (2016) forum, would be to just wholesale move the posts over to <Rogoff> rather than delete them. <Rogoff> should be the local Black Hole in the <CG> universe. Once pulled into its gravitational field, there should be no returning back. |
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Feb-22-16
| | chessgames.com: <zanzibar: By the way, trying to put a year in on a player search seems a "bad" idea - at least currently> I'm not sure what you are saying. That search-link apparently is asking for games from 1871 with the name "Meyer", but I don't believe we have any. I tested, searching for 2014 games by anybody named Meyer, and found several. |
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| Feb-22-16 | | zanzibar: Yes, sorry.
What I was awkwardly trying to show was that <CG> doesn't allow this kind of search: "Find me a player named Meyer active in 1871."
I'd like to show such a player, even if they didn't have any games during a particular year. |
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| Feb-22-16 | | zanzibar: Of course that level of searching might be a little much... simple sorting is good enough. <CG> could even add a sort field to the <Advanced Search> and not do the fancy column sorting. (Though column sorting is increasingly used - to the point that users are almost justified in expected such capability.) |
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| Feb-22-16 | | morfishine: Why was my communication with <Overgod> erased? I was truly trying to find common ground with him, really |
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