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| Feb-23-16 | | zanzibar: Trying to swim back over to the shallow end after jumping into the deep end... Do the top-10 games, as voted in, get some notice on the game page? I looked, but couldn't see any. I would think a glyph of some kind, with "Best of 2015", or whatever year, would be appropriate. This conspicuous, but non-intrusive, glyph could be a link over to the top-10 page for that year (where their own puns would be appropriate). Then one could navigate through the years with backward/forward buttons as usual. BTW - I think the concept of top-10 is a good one, and wish I had enough chess-cred to vote on the nominees... |
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Feb-23-16
 | | WannaBe: This is truly amazing:
ChessGames.com Statistics Page
CG.com have games covering 1475 to 2115, so please tell us, who wins the Candidates and then who will win the Championship. While you're at it, when will the Cubs win the World Series? The top 2 pages (as individual players page) are 1. Rogoff (195K), 2. W. So (187K), While M. Carlsen (77K) and Fischer (52K) combined doesn't even come close. Go fig. |
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| Feb-24-16 | | zanzibar: <WannaBe> ... <CG> could show other metrics that might shed more light on this. E.g. The "page" which has the largest number of users posting to it. E.g. The page with the highest average posts/user.
E.g. The page with the highest number of posts in one day. I think Rogoff outperforming So reflects an ordered universe. I was getting concerned otherwise. Like I am with Hillary vs. Trump. I would be interested to see a histogram of # Posts vs User for Rogoff, even if the user identities were hidden. |
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Feb-24-16
 | | Annie K.: <cg> I love the idea of giving every game its own pun voting area. :) <zanz> the trouble with showing new metrics is that it always has to be weighed against the question of unintended consequences... Thing is, people love to see their names on the statistics page. So if the introduction of a new metric might cause an explosion of worthless posts, just because some posters will want to get their names on it (or even if names are not shown, the "bragging rights" for having caused, or contributed to, the "new record"), it's best not to offer it. :) |
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Feb-24-16
| | WannaBe: <CG.com> Thanks for fixing that 2115 typo, and changed the year to 2016. =)) |
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| Feb-24-16 | | zanzibar: <AnnieK> you mean unforeseen consequences like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9G... or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um9...
I'm willing to risk it. |
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| Feb-24-16 | | zanzibar: I do recommend full-screen viewing from this point on: https://youtu.be/g9GY2iVag80?t=97
It really does remind me of a typical day here on <CG>. |
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Feb-24-16
| | Annie K.: Quite, yes. :D |
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| Feb-24-16 | | morfishine: The vast majority of the complaints against the puns or the "GOTD" are justified and well-founded. And if "submitters" can't handle the criticism and thus suffer "intense pain and suffering", I suggest these people seek counseling, with a view to the very least, grow a thicker skin and build a tougher constitution And telling "detractors" to STFU doesn't do anybody any good Best always, morf
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Feb-24-16
 | | chessgames.com: <morfishine: Why was my communication with <Overgod> erased? I was truly trying to find common ground with him, really> Without even going into the logs of what was said or deleted, I have to guess what happened is that something he posted was deleted, and you quoted it. It's normal policy that when we delete a post we delete all posts that refer to it. If you want to discuss it more please email and I'll pull up the actual discussion. |
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Feb-24-16
| | chessgames.com: <Do the top-10 games, as voted in, get some notice on the game page?> No, and don't think that's necessary. The overall "notable" concept encapsulates that well enough. It might not exactly equal the list that tpstar comes up with annually, but it would be very similar, possibly even more accurate in the long-run. We could write a program to compute the top 10 games of each year based on notability, and put a gold star on those games when you come to them. That would be fun. |
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Feb-24-16
| | chessgames.com: <complaints against the puns> I have a notion to solve all the kvetching once and for all, with a new preference option called "suppress GOTD puns". If you turn this option on, the homepage will simply show the GOTD players without the title; the page will not have the title, and if somehow you accidentally click on Game of the Day Archive, rather than going mad or blind, you can be shown a soothing image instead. Of course one would still have to put up with kibitzing of other people about the pun, but you can't not-have everything. |
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| Feb-24-16 | | zanzibar: <chessgames> <We could write a program to compute the top 10 games of each year based on notability, and put a gold star on those games when you come to them. That would be fun.> Well, that's basically the idea.
I thought <tpstar> might appreciate his list being used, but the notable games sounds like a valid alternative. (Though it might get skewed, since it a notable game vote is, I believe, according to collection votes - and this might not necessarily pick "best" games.) |
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Feb-24-16
 | | tpstar: <Perhaps what we need is a new pun contest. The original Game Collection: Get Thee to a Punnery! was about 5 years ago; a renewed effort should be fun if nothing else.> Even better would be a new GOTD *title* contest.
Pick a month with thirty days, like April or June. Give lots of fanfare the month before, during the actual submissions and voting, as too many people don't pay attention. Then run the list in reverse order displaying #30 to #1 from the 1st to the 30th. <The vast majority of the complaints against the puns or the "GOTD" are justified and well-founded> Disagree. It is using the Internet to act out and hurt people. Still waiting for ten new ideas, right now in real time. Otherwise ... <suppress GOTD puns> Splendid. |
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| Feb-25-16 | | heuristic: <puns>
too many of the puns are based on the players names. and most of the puns depend on the English language.since puns are about double meanings; then this is the result. so DROP the use of puns.
my proposal is to use another area that chessplayers are good at : sarcastic wit or dry humor. SATIRE of the GAME would require that :
- the remark be droll, offhand or dripping with irony
- be chess related (either to the moves of the game, specific positions within the game, etc ... ) this makes the effort harder and focuses the talent on the game itself. it would NOT be daily, as that requirement eventually lowers the quality. |
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| Feb-25-16 | | zanzibar: <<heuristic> too many of the puns are based on the players names. and most of the puns depend on the English language.>
And on cultural references that might not translate. But nothing prevents the adoption of non-pun puns as <heuristic> later describes. E.g. "c6-sickness" comes to mind, "tear down this wall" is another. And what about "boogie knights"? It's chess-related, but dependent on a cultural ref. <tpstar>'s défi to come up with better "puns" is the real challenge. And though I often cringe at 'em, there are some good chuckles, and in the end I really can't imaging <CG> without the punning as exists today. And as they say... <Pun for all, and all for pun!> |
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| Feb-25-16 | | zanzibar: <chessgames> A request for footnote links: Biographer Bistro (kibitz #13131) A new feature, hopefully worthy of consideration. |
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Feb-25-16
| | Annie K.: <cg: <suppress GOTD puns>> Heh. :) If the target audience had the self-control required to use such a feature, it would not be needed in the first place... ;s <morfishine> I don't know you very well - most of what I have personally seen of your output here were some of your posts on GOTD pages. And if that was all I knew of you, I wouldn't bother to comment further. However, I have also seen some posts by other people, that indicate that you were once considered a constructive and positive contributor here... so, for that reason alone, I am going to try to show you how you come across these days. Most of us realize that the GOTD pun feature is just for fun, and the pun contributors are only well-meaning amateurs. To us, you and other posters like you, come across as the kind of people who would go to a young children's school play, and proceed to publicly insult and embarrass the poor kids for not being up to the standards of your favorite Royal Shakespearean Theater. Do you behave like that in real life? I hope not. So this is the point you are missing: those puns may not be the most brilliant comic creations of the human race, but we don't care about that, and you're only ruining other people's fun - and in the process, building a reputation for yourself as a thoroughly unpleasant person. I am just saying this because you seem to be unaware of how you appear to others. If you can see it as the constructive criticism it was meant to be, good for you - otherwise please feel free to respond as you like, I won't be bothered at all. :) |
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| Feb-25-16 | | Alien Math: one negative bonus of the <rage against puns> are less would be willing to become target of a bad pun, yet several assume the usage of <bad dad type jokes> to be notmal |
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| Feb-25-16 | | zanzibar: Cooking up names for chess games/positions is an old tradition. Blame the problemists for starting it in the first place: From Westminster Papers v5 1872-73, 1st Feb 1873, p149 <
1 "Che sara sara."
2 "And 'twas check ! check ! check !
the live long night."
3 "Quick to track."
4 "Cup us, till the world goes round."
5 "I imagine."
6 "Komm, Folge mir ins Schallenreich !"
7 "King's Levee."
8 "Ars celare Artem."
9 "Hoc arduae vincere docet."
10 "The more haste, the less speed."
11 "Facinus et Sumus."
12 "Cantab A. B."
13 "Fiat Justitia ruat ceelum."
14 "Claimant."
15 "Why so, prithee?"
16 "The children of an idle brain."
17 "Where's the master? Play the men."
18 "Z."
19 "H."
20 "A."
21 "Wait and hope."
22 "Fiinf Sinne fünf Räthsel."
23 "Einfachheit ist mein Streben."
24 "Auf Wiederschen!"
25 "Fortiter in re."
26 "Work for money, but think for honour."
27 "Es ist za so schiver."
28 "Wen die Hoffnung nicht war."
29 "Quidquid delirant reges plectuntur Achivi."
30 "Quid si prisca redit venus."
31 "Ultima Thule!"
32 "Sagittae potentis acutae."
33 "Chi fa falla e chi non fa sparfalla."
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Notice this list contains a little more cultural diversity than <CG> does. Let's encourage <CG> to open the floodgates as wide as <London (1872)> |
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Feb-25-16
| | WannaBe: Fully support <Annie K.>'s post/comment. I am <WannaBe> and I approved this message. =)) |
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| Feb-25-16 | | zanzibar: <Pun cultural diversity> I should have said more explicitly. |
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| Feb-25-16 | | Alien Math: The 1st IMSA Elite Mind Games to take place in Huai’an, China http://www.ranka.intergofed.org/ |
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| Feb-25-16 | | Alien Math: via cro777 Ding Liren Ding Liren to participate in the 1st IMSA (International Mind Sports Association) Elite Mind Games (IEMG) in Huaian, China. http://imsa2016.fide.com/en/players Athletes, team coaches and arbiters all participated today in the opening ceremony. http://imsa2016.fide.com/images/sto...
Tomorrow (February 26) in Round 1 of the rapid chess tournament (a seven-round event) Ding Liren meets Radoslav Wojtaszek with the black pieces. (Four rounds will be played tomorrow, and three rounds the next day). |
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| Feb-26-16 | | gauer: With iOS (7.1.2) and Safari on Chessgames Home Page page (clicking on it from "somewhere else" in the database) and then doing the following: Search a "computer" player name, <followed by the keypad's <return> (Virtual keypad button)> as opposed to using the "find chess games" button brings the search to the next page, and I can sometimes or sometimes use a swipe to swipe previous - but it doesn't always take bake to the index page. Sometimes it would take to a previous search (clearing cookies and history in safari didn't help, but using the grey button instead of the keypad did) page, instead of directly back to the index.html page. Was anyone else experiencing the behaviour, as I do like the "traditional" use of the safari next and previous buttons. Thanks for the help. |
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