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| Jun-15-16 | | zanzibar: What about the other games - checking zip file yields 4 games: <Frere, Breckenridge, Helms, Luckenbach> It would be nice if we could search on Event/Site tags on <CG>... or maybe not. |
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| Jun-15-16 | | zanzibar: There's also another Lasker <NY simul (1894)> with this comment: Lasker vs W Walker, 1894 (kibitz #2) |
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| Jun-15-16 | | zanzibar: The things that go on in Brighton...
Aronian making it clear to Nakamura:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fya...
In case you can't understand the British accents, he says "I told you not to touch that piece, didn't I?" |
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| Jun-15-16 | | zanzibar: Let's return to <Bundesliga 2015-16>. I'm glad that <chessgames> mentioned it during the previous discussion as it presented a little organizational challenge. Again stubs proved to be key.
How else is one able to spot an entire missing match in TWIC's otherwise excellent treatment? http://theweekinchess.com/chessnews... http://theweekinchess.com/assets/fi... (pgn) Where is <2015.10.22 SC Hansa Dortmund -- SV Muelheim Nord (R7.4) 1/2-1/2> match games? * * * * *
How does a missing match (tournament) show up?
You have to go looking for it. As in, trust but verify (with xtabs). So, take the giant PGN of all the games, and distill each team match into a stub game. There are 16 teams, playing RR, so there should be 120 match stubs (a new kind of stub). The missing match games show up quickly as a missing stub game - quite obvious as a gap in the xtab. Luckily, it turns out these games are available from the official site. So, the Z-base version of the Bundesliga will follow TWIC's treatment, but have 8 additional games, for a total of 960 complete games. (Compare this to <CG> which only has 804 games: Bundesliga (2015/16)) Now, having a complete stub version, one can check the standings. It turns out that <Chess-Results> is likely wrong: Bundesliga (2015/16) (kibitz #22) Somehow, the PGN and Chess-Result xtabs don't match up. Not a bad day at the office, improving upon both TWIC and Chess-Results. It shows how powerful the PGN can be when handled, and normalized, properly. |
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| Jun-16-16 | | zanzibar: RE: <Bundesliga (2015-16)> I wrote some of it up here...
https://zanchess.wordpress.com/2016... It's rough, and needs re-editing, but should be readable. The complete tournament PGN = team match stub + corrected TWIC, is given at the end. Best viewed in SCID, as explained in the text. |
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Jun-16-16
 | | Tabanus: Tisdall summing up: http://mattogpatt.no/2016/06/16/fas... And Carlsen and Karjakin may meet in Bilbao Chess Masters in July, http://bilbaochess2016.com/masters-... |
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| Jun-16-16 | | User not found: Daniel.. What's up with the pages in the cafe? Have a look yourself :) |
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Jun-16-16
 | | chessgames.com: <Most game headers echo the Event tag, but not all. ... Isn't that feature automatic?> Yes it is automatic, but there are some rare ways that these things can get out of synch, usually an admin making a change and leaving things a bit pell-mell. A long time ago there was an automatic process that that spotted such anomalies and reconciled them automatically. But the problem is, if software fixes things like that, it's effectively a coin flip whether the game ends up saying <New York sim> or <Simul, 18b> and such weighty decisions are not best left to coins. |
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Jun-16-16
| | chessgames.com: <Tabanus: <CG> Front page> Sorry about that, we had the results swapped. It reads OK now, congrats to Hikaru. |
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Jun-16-16
| | chessgames.com: <I have quite a few other IM Danny Kopec games - can I email you the PGN file> Certainly. About pgn4web, I personally don't like "hot squares" for several reasons, not the least of which is that you can't expect more than 5% of the users to know anything about them. Which means 95% of the time when one is clicked on it's utterly by accident and leaves the users completely baffled. Chessgames is working on a replacement for pgn4web which we hope will be better than the mighty Chess Viewer Deluxe. |
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| Jun-16-16 | | zanzibar: Until such time, remember g8 lists out all the "hot square" short-cut functions. |
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| Jun-17-16 | | zanzibar: BTW- <chessgames> question- Is there any way to flip a FEN board?
(CT has got me used to solving a Black-to-move problem from the Black side of the board) |
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| Jun-18-16 | | shivasuri4: CG, could we please have a forum for Grand Chess Tour Leuven? |
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| Jun-18-16 | | zanzibar: Another request for Leuven:
Kibitzer's Café (kibitz #179388) |
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Jun-18-16
 | | Domdaniel: <Zanzibar> Here's a FEN reverser: http://www.zbestvalue.com/ChessFENR... I had it in my profile, courtesy of <ajile>. |
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| Jun-18-16 | | zanzibar: <Dom> thanks for that link. I might consider using it, but as it flips the colors it would break the correspondence to the source game. I still wonder if <CG> shouldn't, just for user convenience, etc., be able to quickly flip the board. OK, having typed all that, I did go over to try <Dom>'s FEN reverser. Practical jokes are an investment in the future, my friend! http://cultofj.com/wp-content/galle... |
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Jun-18-16
| | Domdaniel: <Zanzibar> Oops. No joke was intended - I'd kept a copy of the supposed reverser, but I had never actually tried it out. Not so clever of me. Now that I do, I see that it says "...ereh esrever ot NEF epyT" Which may not be helpful. |
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| Jun-18-16 | | zanzibar: <Dom> no problem, I was just thinking you might be giving me the "Boston friendly" treatment! Here's some good to come out of it...
A python FEN reverser:
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def fen_reverse( fen ):
pos = fen.split()[0]
xtra = fen.split()[1:]
# Flip the board.
L = pos.split( "/" );
L.reverse(); L = [ x[::-1] for x in L ]
T = ""
for i in range(256):
c = chr( i )
if c in 'KQRBNP': c = c.lower()
elif c in 'kqrbnp': c = c.upper()
T  c
L = [ string.translate( x, T ) for x in L ]
# Now fix first-to-move, castling, ep.
xtra[0] = 'w':'b', 'b':'w'[ xtra[0] ]
xtra[1] = string.translate( xtra[1], T )
xtra[2] = 'a':'h', 'b':'g', 'c':'f', 'd':'e', '-':'-' [ xtra[2] ]
xtra = " ".join( xtra )
FEN = "/".join( L ) + " " + xtra
return FEN
>
Wish <CG> did verbatim. |
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| Jun-18-16 | | zanzibar: Let's test it out:
Reverse: 3r3k /1p4b1/2p4p/2P2p1Q/1P2p3/4P1qP/6P1/3RR1K1 b - - 1 29 
click for larger viewReverse: 8 /4rp1k/6p1/Q6p/3n3P/6P1/5PB1/2q1RK2 b - - 0 78 
click for larger view |
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Jun-18-16
| | Domdaniel: <zanzi> Yes, it's a very simple routine to write - which is one reason I never bothered to look into it. We live, we learn. Though not always simultaneously. |
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| Jun-18-16 | | thegoodanarchist: <zanzi> joined this website only 4 years ago and I am impressed with his zeal for discussing database issues. It is folks like <zanzi> that we must thank for the ongoing improvement in on line databases. |
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| Jun-18-16 | | thegoodanarchist: I got a message accusing me of "flooding the forum", which I did not do. It said I posted 11 seconds ago. I did, but on the Jeremy Lim page!!! Aren't these considered separate forums, or is cg.com one big forum for "flooding" purposes? |
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| Jun-19-16 | | PolgarFanGirl: How do I change my profile description? |
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Jun-19-16
 | | Annie K.: You can change your profile content here: Chessgames Preferences Page, but you can't change your username. So if you want to change that too, just open a new account. |
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| Jun-19-16 | | gauer: At http://www.chessgames.com/perl/edit... (6-player Scheveningen format + 2 teams), there is enough space for 6 (individual) placings. Does rule 10 (Players who were expunged/forfeited from an event can be given a placement of 99, to ensure their position at the bottom of the list) allow for others (ie like team Europe or Poland with a result out of 18 points total) to be added or deleted? Another (the Capablanca Memorial (Elite) (2016) finishes soon) is not yet completed (understood, don't edit it), and so the leader-board probably wouldn't be updated until we know all played games are in (when an unplayed result happens due to a drop-out, is it better to use  notation on a table instead of a 0-½-1), but is it okay to add current ChessBookie propositions to YourNextMove Rapid (2016) ?Is that new Notable Chess Games (the Goat) able to work similar to sort a subset of notable games by an: opening code (like for the C89 page) or a tid page? I'm not sure whether it could pick out most notable games by such a subset, as chosen by popularity within user cid sets. Good job on the goat design, though. Hopefully the design is not deviating much from the Chessgames Editor Guide suggestions. |
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