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| Apr-05-17 | | diceman: <zanzibar: <chessgames> Well, trying to find the Immortal Game isn't so easy given this:> Wow!
Didnt know this was his name:
<Lionel Adalbert Bagration Felix Kieseritzky> No wonder they called him "LK." |
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| Apr-05-17 | | Robed.Bishop: It appears from multiple site pages that we are entering into a new chapter of the <UNF> (MF) saga. It's time that the normal members of <CG> rise as one and demand full disclosure of this unprecedented tale of woe! Indeed, rarely are mere users of a site given the opportunity to see trolls in the light, and far too long have we allowed this one to scurry in the dark tainting our very pages, the essence of our site, with scandal and innuendos. No more hidden emails! Bring this into the light! Rise people, rise and be heard! |
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| Apr-05-17 | | zanzibar: <diceman> Personally, I think <Lionel Adalbert Bagration Felix Kieseritzky> is absurdly long for his "formal"/PGN name. There's only one Kieseritzky in the DB after all... (E.g. do a Advanced Search on "Kieseritzky" and you go directly to Lionel's page) It's fine to give his full name in the player page, either as the full heading, or like Capablanca, just in the bio. But I think the PGN name should be shortened to <Kieseritzky, Lionel> Common sense approach and all that.
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Apr-05-17
 | | FSR: <chessgames.com> Arthur Bisguier just died. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/... |
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| Apr-05-17 | | Keyser Soze: <FSR> Sad news, and lovely column from NyT. thanks. |
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Apr-06-17
 | | offramp: When I saw that viral video of the grandma being hit by some chimpanzee poo I immediately thought, "I wonder how the Beautiful People™ have been getting along." So I came here, and I found out that they are all up to their old tricks again! It's funnier than the video! LOL! |
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| Apr-06-17 | | WinKing: Why has this website been dragging lately? |
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| Apr-06-17 | | Boomie: <Chessgames>
The Shankland-Xiong in the Live Broadcast has the wrong colors and outcome. Shankland played white and lost. |
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Apr-06-17
 | | chessgames.com: <Shankland played white and lost.> Sorry about that, we got the colors switched. Here's the right game: S Shankland vs J Xiong, 2017. <WinKing: Why has this website been dragging lately?> We're trying to assess that. |
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| Apr-06-17 | | WinKing: <chessgames.com: <WinKing: Why has this website been dragging lately?> We're trying to assess that.> Yeah it was running so well when you first upgraded your server but has been slow for well over a week now. Good luck with getting the problem solved. |
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| Apr-06-17 | | WinKing: Running up to speed now 7:20pm EDT. |
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| Apr-07-17 | | zanzibar: <chessgames> I'd like to collect/promote the Skopje 1975 tournament games that <CG> has. I know <365chess> has all 120 games which give an xtab matching up with Di Felice. <MB> has 115 games, so, 5 missing. How many does <CG> have? What's an easy way to put them into a tournament? (Oh yeah, and does Junge have a photo yet? Why not?) |
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Apr-08-17
| | chessgames.com: <How many does <CG> have?> mysql> select count(*) from Game where year=1975 and (pgn like '%Skopje%');
0
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
None at all, apparently. Is there some other name that it might be found under? Was it a 75/76 event by any chance? (I ask because we have a number of games from Skopje '76.) Anyhow, the normal way to add a tournament is the 3 step process described in Chessgames Editor Guide - first you make a collection, then you put all games in the collection and upload missing ones, then you nominate it for Bistro voting. With 120 games that will be awfully tedious, but we've done bigger ones. If it's actually true that we have none of those games (which I find hard to believe) then it actually would make the situation much easier— I could download the whole bag of laundry from one PGN file and simply flip the kibitzing switch "ON" with the newly created tournament, thereby making it a TI event. The article would have to then be supplied. |
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| Apr-08-17 | | mmmjv: Is this where I'm supposed to "ask questions, notify us of problems/bugs, make suggestions to improve the site, and more."? It's 989 pages. Who's going to even see my question before it gets lost? I can't see the game board, other than the extremly basic pgn4 and text only. I have Java installed. There are no old versions of Java. And I have Chessgames Home Page listed on my Java control panel. What do I do now? |
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| Apr-08-17 | | zanzibar: <chessgames> I'm actually fishing... I'll like to get back to working on the bulk submission process again. The normal 3-step process simply does work, at least for me. I want to be able take a good tournament PGN (i.e. one with yields a correct xtab) and submit it to <CG> with minimal additional work. I.e.
1) I'm not interested in having to write up an intro for each and every such tournament. Nor having to haggle to get it accepted, (i.e. <Manchester 1890>
http://www.rookhouse.com/manchester...).
(Speaking of haggling - will you please just add Junge's picture so I can be done with it?). 2) Having already done all the work "at home" (i.e. with SCID and consulting TB's, <CB>, <NIC>, <365> and even <CG> itself) - I don't feel that much more additional work should be required. The ability to easily add tournaments should be a convenience that will encourage many editors to contribute, which in turn might encourage the intro writeup phrase as well. (E.g. some editors might have more interest in writing, others in game collecting - why shouldn't a division of labor be possible?) 3) <CG> can extract automatically an xtab, Site, Event, bracket dates, and list of players to construct a minimal intro - which will be a huge improvement over not having any coherent assembly for the games. * * * * *
RE: Skopje 1976 (sorry - I got the year wrong)
Sample game:
Uhlmann vs Kurajica, 1976 I apologize myself for inconveniencing you with the wrong year, but it was a rhetorical question as seen from user-space. The point was that admins have simple search abilities via mysql that are lacking for normal users. Of course I can download the PGN in bulk from <CG> and do searches at home. But <CG> is still lacking the ability to search on Event/Site fields via Advanced Search. And I'm assuming that adding such a feature would be relatively simple within the already existing framework. |
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Apr-08-17
| | chessgames.com: <mmmjv> Yes you're in the right place. Don't worry, I check it often enough to address issues before the get buried 100 pages deep. (Usually.) OK, here's the situation with Chess Viewer Deluxe / Java in a nutshell: Oracle purchased the Java technology from Sun Microsystems, but has all but abandoned it. They want to keep it running in a few corporate settings but it's not suggested for web use. As a result, Chessgames no longer officially supports it, nor do we even recommend its use, but allow it as an option for the intrepid die-hards. We have a page that explains this in more detail and provides detailed instructions on how to get Java working (but those instructions are getting old in the tooth and might be missing a nuance or two by now; I'm not sure.) It also has a very easy button to press that flips you over to pgn4web if you decide to give up. That page is here: Java Help Page. In the meanwhile, we are working on something we call "Project Olga" which will be a PGN viewer that aspires to CVD quality, if not higher, but made on a modern programming platform (Javascript + HTML5). So in short, you can try to get Java working, but we can't help you more than the above page, and we beg for patience as we get Olga into production mode. When it is complete I honestly believe it will be the #1 non-proprietary PGN viewer available online. Thanks for your support. |
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| Apr-08-17 | | mmmjv: Ok, thanks. Is there any way of getting a notification when it comes through? |
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Apr-08-17
 | | Domdaniel: <CG> No moves yet on Live games page (So-Kamsky) though they're past move 10. |
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| Apr-08-17 | | Boomie: <Chessgames>
Duplicate games in the US Women:
A Virkud vs C Yip, 2017 A Virkud vs C Yip, 2017 |
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Apr-08-17
 | | Fusilli: <CG>, maybe you can add Yuri Averbakh to the drop down menu of players on the home page? It's hard to remember the spelling. |
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Apr-08-17
| | Fusilli: <CG> See L Shamkovich vs M Valvo, 1985 and its kibitzing, especially the post by <Retireborn>. Is Retireborn's word, combined with the fact that it totally makes sense, enough grounds to change the game score? I don't know if anyone submitted a correction slip, but I wonder about the standards of evidence. |
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| Apr-08-17 | | zanzibar: Just to comment a little on <Fusilli>'s 2nd post - <RB>'s word is usually pretty good. Especially as he generally references <CB BigBase(?)> and/or one of the many <Informator> issues he has access to. . |
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| Apr-08-17 | | zanzibar: Some more epigrams, from Sunnucks -
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There are two classes of men; those who are content to yield to circumstances, and who play whist; those who aim to control circumstances, and who play chess. Mortimer Collins (1827-1876)
Attic Salt
<The slowness of genius is hard to bear, but the slowness of mediocrity is intolerable.H. T. Buckle>
In chess, as played by a good player, logic and imagination must go hand in hand, compensating each other. J. R. Capablanca,
Chess, March 1938
<In the opening a master should play like a book, in the middle game he should play like a magician, in the ending he should play like a machine.I. Chernev,
The Bright Side of Chess>
Of chess it has been said that life is not long enough for it, but that is the fault of life, not chess. I. Chernev,
The Bright Side of Chess
<The game of chess is the touchstone of the intellect.J. W. von Goethe>
Help your pieces so that they can help you.
P. Morphy
<The Pawns are the soul of the game.A. D. Philidor>
Chess, like love, like music, has the power to make men happy. Dr. S. Tarrasch,
The Game of Chess
<Chess is the art of human reason.Gustavus Selenus,
Duke of Brunswick, 1616>
Sacrifices only prove that someone has blundered. Dr. S. Tartakover
<It is always better to sacrifice your opponent's men.Dr. S. Tartakover>
The mistakes are all there waiting to be made.
Dr. S. Tartakover
<Moral victories do not count.Dr. S. Tartakover>
A threat is more powerful than its execution.
Dr. S. Tarrasch
<An isolated Pawn spreads gloom all over the chessboard.Dr. S. Tartakover>
The refutation of a sacrifice frequently consists in its acceptance. W. Steinitz
<You may knock your opponent down with the chessboard, but that does not prove that you are the better player.English Proverb>
Chess is a sea in which a gnat may drink and an elephant may bathe. Russian Proverb
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Apr-09-17
| | chessgames.com: <Is Retireborn's word, combined with the fact that it totally makes sense, enough grounds to change the game score? I don't know if anyone submitted a correction slip, but I wonder about the standards of evidence.> It's always a judgement call but in this case it seems that the likely result is almost certainly 1-0 and not 1/2-1/2. The protocol here is that somebody should submit a correction slip that says something like this: <It's almost certainly 1-0, see Retiredborn's post.> The CG Librarian (Sargon) will take it from there — fix the game, and paste that comment into the editor notes so that if the game later comes into question we can have some context of why the score is the way we have it today. |
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Apr-09-17
| | Fusilli: Okay, <CG>, thank you. I'll submit the correction slip myself. Please notice my other message about Averbakh. |
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