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| Sep-09-18 | | Nisjesram: <chessgames.com><Keep things as animated as desired—while maintaining a modicum of <civility>. Anyone who does that will be <fine>. But anyone who engages in excessive name-calling, personal antagonism, and other such overtly <trollish> behavior is going to run into problems> Hear, hear!
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| Sep-09-18 | | Nisjesram: <nisjesram><<Daniel> was a staunch <libertarian>—like I am—who cherished <free speech>. He also strongly believed in the value and efficacy of the <US Constitution> and its <Bill of Rights>. But <anarchy> was NOT his cup of tea—nor is it mine.> Hear, hear.
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| Sep-09-18 | | Nisjesram: Respect and thanks to admins.
Now , things should be clear to everyone , no confusion to anyone anymore. Time to move on Have a nice day everybody (or night , depending on time zone). Cheers.
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| Sep-10-18 | | rogge: <I can tell you <one> thing though—<anyone> who goes around accusing other members of contributing to Daniel's death is a <troll>, plain and simple—and I know one when I see one. The Admin of this site will not tolerate such shenanigans.> <tpstar> provided this reminder yesterday: <<Keyser> and I were the only ones who immediately recognized his death as a Medical Examiner case, and if people don't know what that means, then people don't know what that means> |
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banned. Just more tolerance and people who can listen. And we all need to observe the guidelines, myself included. I know I have made mistakes in that area in the past. But I try to change.By "spanking" I didn't mean a permanent ban. Just words in his ear and so on and if he didn't change then action. But BP was or is kind of obsessive it seems. |
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| | Richard Taylor: BP even got things quite wrong and surely he saw that this was joke in reaction to his endless 'Terrorist Sympathiser' stuff, which partly started when another poster was going on about NZ being made up of criminals and that if it weren't for the US we would be speaking Japanese etc etc ad nauseam, so BP thrashed it and thrashed it. I wonder if he has a rather simple approach to life? And this went right over his head: <<Richard taylor: I am part of the World Domination League of Fanatics who Hate the US. We are very enthusiastic: we are pleased with our most spectacular result so far: nine eleven I think it was, a couple of old buildings that fell down when someone sneezed near them and some sad old accountants karked it.......That was one of our successes. (We failed to blow up Greenwich, England, and a poor lad was killed unfortunately...and what was his name BP?..in any case...we have done many many more lovely terrorisms and are having a wonderful and jolly time!!>> The World Domination League derives from a skit by Dudley Moore and Peter Cooke, then I made up that I was in an organisation (anti-US), then I made a reference to Conrad's 'The Secret Agent'. It was a pity as that is one of the great books. The brilliance there was that the Secret Agent, who basically did very little, to keep his job, was urged to actually do something to get the British agents to crack down on radicals (the implication is that They are from, or part of, the Austro-Hungarian Empire). So rather than blow up something real the idea is to blow up Time. The idea They have is that people will be more frightened and indignant about something abstract, such as time (or something to do with science and "progress" etc) (but this is part of Conrad's satire, it is clearly ridiculous...It is a clever novel: tragic-comic. Time or the "centre" of time keeping is, indeed, Greenwich, London. My satire passed over BP's head. |
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| Sep-10-18 | | Dr Winston OBoogie: <saffuna: <I can tell you <one> thing though—<anyone> who goes around accusing other members of contributing to Daniel's death is a <troll>, plain and simple—and I know one when I see one. The Admin of this site will not tolerate such shenanigans.>
Great news.>
And a great post! I don't see anyone complaining. I'd love to rub it in with <Cult45> and <Lil Bispo> but now BP's on vacation I'm being on my best behaviour. ^^ After reading those posts by <Sargz> I can hear heads exploding from Rio to Michigan to Massachusetts :) Thank you Sargon. |
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| Sep-10-18 | | john barleycorn: Never seen that *I*, ME and MY in any of Goldsby's posts: <<Greetings john barleycorn:Despite the facts you cite above, *I* wish to retain a *measure* of anonymity by not having my name sprayed all over the place, especially when the posts are trollish in nature—as deemed by ME. It is MY prerogative when and where I decide that this has occurred. Notwithstanding the fact that my name has been made public a few times, those who have mentioned it have done so with my implicit or explicit permission, and/or from entirely pure motives. You do not meet those criteria. Consequently, I reserve the right to enforce posting guideline #5 on my own behalf, so please be advised—don’t post my name again unless you meet the conditions above. As I noted, such postings as the one you made, especially when personal information is *gratuitously* included, are a violation of Chessgames.com posting guideline #5, and will be enforced whenever the target of the post complains, and indeed perhaps in some cases where the Admin or Owners of this site deem it prudent. Parenthetically, the posting guidelines will be updated VERY soon to include restrictions against any excessively antagonistic (trollish) behavior, the determination of which will of course be at the sole discretion of the management. > |
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| Sep-10-18 | | john barleycorn: who is the owner of CG now? who is the hired hand? does anybody know? |
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| Sep-10-18 | | nok: Big Pawn was a spammer, end of. Anyone who copy-pastes streams of text as "part 40 of 234" should take a hike and educate himself on what an internet forum is. The fact he was a religious weirdo so insecure that he had to constantly remind his contradictors they'd go to hell (alternatively, that their family would be raped at gunpoint) was just bonus. |
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| Sep-10-18 | | zanzibar: <<jbc> who is the owner of CG now? who is the hired hand? does anybody know?> The ownership situation hasn't been clarified, afaik, but I suspect the reports others have made to your inquiries are fairly accuracte. I would speculate that Daniel was ~70-75% owner for sure, if not more. I also suspect that the user-formerly-known-as <Sargon> (now-known-as <chessgames.com>(+)) is also a stakeholder - perhaps with a recently supplemental stake. (+) 6th Sinquefield Cup (2018) (kibitz #26) The whip hand is definitely wielded <chessgames.com>. I'm not sure that outright provocation or antagonism aimed in that direction is advisable, at least at present. A few lumps have taken their well-deserved lumps, and maybe a few "innocents" as well (*). Some patience and endurance is perhaps advisable. * * * * *
(*) Speaking of which, <chessgames.com> if you happen to read this could you please email me, at your convenience of course. . |
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| Sep-10-18 | | john barleycorn: <zanzibar: ...
The ownership situation hasn't been clarified, ...> So, I'll enjoy my remaining time on CG until the great <sargon> finds time to end my time here. |
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| Sep-10-18 | | zanzibar: <zanzibar: ...
The ownership situation hasn't been clarified, ...>I should have been a little more careful to say that it hasn't been clarified to us. It may have been clarified as a matter of law, but I don't believe the ownership of an LLC has any obligation to publish the terms to the general public. The fatalistic attitude is slightly amusing, but I would think nobody's time is truly up for good, no matter what decisions are coming down the pike. I do think that outrageously blatant trolling is going to be nipped in the bud from here on - but who really should be complaining about that? There's still plenty of room for snide asides in addition to amusing quips and whips. |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: this might be helpfull ... maybe ..... and ths a lot ....... https://chess24.com/en/read/news/20... |
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| Sep-11-18 | | john barleycorn: <zanzibar: <zanzibar: ... The ownership situation hasn't been clarified, ...> I should have been a little more careful to say that it hasn't been clarified to us. ...> But we have <sargon> who steps up as "authoritative" without legitimation. That, right now, looks as an exquisite way of trolling. |
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| Sep-11-18 | | rogge: I'd say he's acting on behalf of DF's mother, and that's OK in my book. |
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| Sep-11-18 | | john barleycorn: <sneaky freaky>? usually there would be an anouncement? until then <sargon> is acting in a legal vacuum, imho. |
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| Sep-11-18 | | rogge: It's hardly a one man show. |
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| Sep-11-18 | | john barleycorn: Right, it is the "<*I*, ME and MY> show" as it seems. There has not been a professional transition as it seems. More like some hacked into the software and tries to understand the program and how to manage the site and its members. |
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| Sep-11-18 | | Tiggler: <z> You are on very thin ice, as I think you were just told. Careful of the third rail. |
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| Sep-11-18 | | Robed.Bishop: <jb> I'm not clear on your underlying issue. True, the site has not made any official announcement of the new owner, but at this point it seems pretty clear that <Sargon> is running the show under the "chess games" name. So in this small town, he's the guy with the big gun and none of us have any guns. One of two things is true: either he's been granted such power by the owners (if indeed that has been completely resolved), or he has not. If he has, then he has the authority to do what he has done and what he is apparently going to do. If he does not, then there doesn't appear to be anything you can do about it and he's done what he's done and is going to do what he wants to do until somebody more important than you stops him. Given what has generally been posted, it appears that <Sargon> has been put in charge, at least temporarily, so I'm guessing it's option one. Frankly, I don't see people complaining. I don't usually give advice (at least not for free), but it might behoove you at this point to forget about the third rail, look up, and see if there's a freight train coming down your track. |
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| Sep-11-18 | | zanzibar: <Tiggler> you seem to be dogging me of late, even though you were supposed to put me on ignore. Anyways, I think you speak with the authority of one, so I suggest any follow-ups go to <Rogoff>. Till then, I suggest you heed your own advice!
Cheers.
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| Sep-11-18 | | Nisjesram: <
Premium Chessgames Member rogge: It's hardly a one man show>Yes, recent admin post after suspension of <big pawn> account clearly stated that when some account is suspended , there is consensus about it among admins. <johnbarleycorn> is clearly a troll and now he is taking confrontational and defiant attitude towards admin as well. However , i still think they will tolerate him a lot and send a message that they are very accomodating and only when trolling becomes extremely chaotic , do they act. Personally , i wish they don't tolerate trolls like <johnbarleycorn> in the slightest and discipline them as soon as possible. N. |
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| Sep-12-18 | | zanzibar: And as they say...
<Repetition is the sincerest form of dullery> You remember this trope, retweeted by Ron Paul, mentioning <Cultural Marxism>: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/... Awfully mature of both <oppie> and <Ron Paul> to recycle, won't you agree (u-know-who)? . |
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