It don't.

<And it has an ambiguous move..>

<Missy> (or Olga?) should have caught the contradictory usage of the FEN tag with a SETUP 0 tag.

Also, the PGN should really also indicate, via a comment, that the game was really played at "Bishop + two moves" odds.

Oh, and did I mention, in addition to introducing the <Source> tag to <CG>, that I'd like to also add the <Source_url> tag?

Comme ça:

<[Source_url "https://books.google.com/books?id=Z..."]>

Daniel had the Source tag more restricted than 255, once-upon-a-time, iirc (and I do).

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Also, RE: <missy>'s game, the FEN startup is really a kludge, which needs an extra comment for explanation, and still leaves the move numbers wrong.

Better would be to adopt the "--" <null move> notation used by the "elite" programs, like SCID and pgn4web:

<<null moves support>

pgn4web supports PGN null moves in the -- notation (used by a number of chess tools like scid and chessbase), such as in 1. e4 -- 2. d4

Note the equivalent <> nullmove notation is currently not supported by pgn4web.>

https://sourceforge.net/p/pgn4web/w...

Olga might like to do likewise. Then the move score could match the source, as Staunton .

255 in binary code is 1111 1111 So, yep, there you have it. Back in the ol' days, with limited memory and what-nots. That was the max you can go.

All 1s, anyone who have ever played with colour code in HTML will know what colour you get with (255, 255, 255), or what you get with (0,0,0) and the fun is the combinations you can create inbetween.

(I think that is 27,666,216 combinations)

<MissScarlett> lol no, you didn't. But I know what you mean.

You "processed" a submission that had already been processed. I process all my submissions seconds after I submit them, and then check on the publication and log it in one of many dedicated games collections. The game of mine that you "processed" had already been published. Apparently, one of my submissions accidentally appeared in your list. When that happens, the person who actually submitted that game (me in this case) will always see it in their list as well. The one you see is a "phantom" due to your cache on the editing page not clearing properly.

It's not possible to process one of my submissions because they always go into my box= I check that every single time. Then I process them immediately, and check the "completed process" log on the right hand side of the page. Then I inspect each of my newly published games in the database and log it. I know exactly what is going on with my submissions.

To get a "clean submission page" in your own box, sometimes you need to refresh the editing page- in some cases, refresh several times. Stray submissions from other members may get in to your box by accident. I do a lot of uploading, so it happens to me fairly often.

That's why I am always on the look out for stray submissions from other people showing up in my box.

When this happens, I delete the stray from my list, then refresh the page until I get a clean submission box.

Sometimes I have to refresh 2-3 times to get a clean box, but it always gets cleared eventually. Once I had to reboot my computer, but it rarely comes to that.

<MissScarlett>

Not really- but I do so much uploading that the "raw number" might seem high.

I would say it happens rarely, maybe 5% of the time.

I will share some things I noticed.

If a stray pgn is in your box, then none of yours will be in your box at the same time.

So be sure to check your box carefully before you process, although in truth you can't be doing anything bad for the database even if you do process someone else's game(s) by accident. It won't create duplicates.

When you notice there is someone else's game(s) in your box, it means you are not actually in your box- you are in the box belonging to someone else. This can get confusing because at the top of the page it will still say "Miss Scarlett" but the box on the bottom of the page will be somebody else's box.

So today it happened several times- I submitted some of my pgns through the <Upload Utility>, then went to "my" box to process them, only to notice the games were not mine. But I often recognize them- they are usually games I had already processed on behalf of another submitter in a previous session. This might account for my box "remembering" them and recapitulating them.

So I accidentally "re-processed" some of the games I had already processed. But as mentioned there's no harm done, because they will not become duplicates.

In these cases, if you look carefully at the log box on the right, you will see "3 games skipped" or some such.

I discovered that the best way to get back to my own box was 1) delete the foreign pgns from my box. This will not delete them from the system, only from my personal box. 2) After deleting them, refresh the editing page. 3) Then you will be back in your box and the foreigners should be gone. If not, just repeat the procedure until your box is empty again. 4) If that doesn't work after a few tries, reboot. As mentioned, I only had to do that once so far.

It seems to me this is a problem with "caching" in our boxes. When we process someone else's games, our box (cache) "remembers" them and can reproduce them later as "ghosts."

Kolisch vs S Rosenthal, 1864 (kibitz #1)

Who's the architect for that messy business ?!

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Makes me wonder, what are Susan's long-term plans for this site?

I'm interested in how much thought she's given to the handing off the site, and specifically, how she'll select her successor.

<Sargon> seems to be indicating his future role will be decreasing (Chessgames Bookie chessforum (kibitz #13052)).

(Which might be just as well, imo.)

I remember how concerned some were about the site's future when Daniel was alive. Those concerns remain despite (or because?!) of the best efforts of Susan, it seems to me.

<Z4all>

<Z4all> I had some sluggish loading this morning as well, but back to lightning fast again.

<Susan Freeman>

I doubt it's meant as an aspersion. Without you the website wouldn't even be here.

But that is the problem, and the cause for worry.

I spoke about this often with <Daniel> both in private and public-

Around 70% of the internet links in our kibbutzing are dead.

This is the problem with the internet. If the head of a library can't take care of the library any more, the library doesn't disappear.

But if the head of a website disappears then the website also disappears.

The only exception to this is giant companies- Google isn't going to "disappear."

But Wikipedia might. That's down to Jimmy "Blue" Whales. That's his labor of love and I have no idea if he has made provisions about his Wikipedia after he's gone. One thing for sure it makes no money- "Blue" Whales has to beg for donations several times a year.

The point is- what happens if you are suddenly gone.

Many of us have put over a decade of very hard work into building up the cg.com database.

If not for you, all of that work would have been gone- instantly and forever.

So the question is= unless you line up some kind of succession/inheritance plan, all of our work here is precarious, and ephemeral.

We would feel much better about this if you made arrangements for the future while there is still time to do so.

That said, again if not for you it would already be gone eh?

I lost my son. My other daughter I have disinherited. Kristina is the one. Very capable.

Regarding the games and corrections, Stevie is thinking out of the box and making a new approach. Rather than patching a tangled mess. Yet still keeping the old. Olga man will make the transition.

I also have the name of an internet attorney>