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Sep-20-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Shams> I don't *think* so, unless it was either Richard Farina (singer, writer of a novel 'Been Down So Long It Seems Like Up', old friend of TP, killed in bike accident) or the guy (Jules Siegel?) who wrote an article for Playboy ('Who is Thomas Pynchon and Why Did He run off with my Wife?'). I remember causing a minor kerfuffle when I ordered the latter through the university inter-library loan system, around 1980. Playboy was actually still banned in Ireland at the time, an accidental relic of a vanishing censorship system - but they still weren't used to getting academic requests for it. I got a photocopy in due course, however. No grainy xeroxes of scantily clad females, though. Is there a third guy? I've consciously avoided knowing Pynchon trivia, as I reckon he's worth his invisibility. I'd just love to know how he had the foresight to vanish so early and so comprehensively. |
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| Sep-21-11 | | Shams: Yes, it was Farina I'm referring to. David Hajdu's "Positively Fourth Street" tells the story of Dylan, Joan Baez, Mimi Baez (Farina) and Richard Farina. Really good stuff. Farina died within days of his novel being published...I've heard it's not bad, but I'll never read it. He's a fascinating figure though. |
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Sep-21-11
 | | OhioChessFan: <dom: I remember causing a minor kerfuffle when I ordered the latter through the university inter-library loan system, around 1980. > So <you're> the one person in the World who reads Playboy for the articles. |
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Sep-21-11
 | | Domdaniel: Found it. The line "Cocaine-- or cards?" is from *both* Dr Mabuse and Pynchon. A character uses it in Gravity's Rainbow - set in 1940s Germany, mostly - and it is glossed as 'an old movie line'. < ("'Cocaine—or cards?' (an old movie line the gunsels loved to use that summer)" — "Cocaine—or cards?" is an intertitle card from Fritz Lang's 1922 film "Mabuse, der Spieler". The question was posed to Wenk (in disguise) as he enters a secret nightclub to face "the great Unknown" in a showdown across a poker table.)> ... as some Pynchon wiki puts it.
Next: who said "Heroin-- or chess?" and "Ganja, or, or Scrab, Scrimmel, Scrimbo, hyeugh, hyeugh, you know, mon, that word game, hyeugh? |
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| Sep-21-11 | | mworld: DD = Pynchon???
Could it be...
I'm on to you and will be sending Paris Hilton your way soon. |
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| Sep-21-11 | | mworld: like the Great Goldsby, my investigative powers were honed by years of sniffing out my own socks; I know when somethings dirty. |
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Sep-21-11
 | | Domdaniel: We'll always have Paris. |
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Sep-21-11
 | | Domdaniel: A little cryptic clue?
1. Lifemaster jabs godly, badly. (1,1,7) |
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| Sep-21-11 | | mworld: I've got it!!
So we are obviously talking about Saturday (the sabbath) Jan 1st, triple 0 7. With Herod being Dismissed by Augustus I am guessing the previous incarnation of the Lifemaster is Herod as nuanced by the choice of saturday for the clue. Being that he is indirectly responsible for the jabbing of christ, one could say that although his opening was weak and his middle game ok, it was the endgame that really went badly. warm? |
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Sep-21-11
 | | Domdaniel: <warm?> Better than Luke. And on the Mark. |
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Sep-21-11
 | | Domdaniel: <mworld> If Alfred Jarry could write 'The Crucifixion Considered as an Uphill Bicycle Race' -- and JG Ballard chip in with 'The Assassination of JFK as a Downhill Motor Race' -- no reason why you can't complete the set with a chess game. |
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| Sep-21-11 | | mworld: brilliant.
1 The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 2 It is written in Isaiah the prophet: "I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way"-- 3 "a voice of one calling in the desert, 'Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.' " 4 And so John came, baptizing in the desert region and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. 5 The whole Judean countryside and all the people of Jerusalem went out to him. Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River. 6 John wore clothing made of camel's hair, with a leather belt around his waist, and he ate locusts and wild honey. 7 And this was his message: "After me will come one more powerful than I, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie. Mark 1:1-7. |
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Sep-21-11
 | | Domdaniel: < John wore clothing made of camel's hair, with a leather belt around his waist> Sounds like a Russian oligarch with more money than taste. Blingski. With a dash of English Retro and a nod to the Arab Spring. I'm fond of leather m'self - you need to be, in this weather - but it should be combined with something conservative, like tweed. Leather trousers, grey silk shirt, tweed jacket -- the Sado-Squireen look. It helps if you own a castle, though. I have some Rooks. And no wish to live in one. |
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Sep-21-11
 | | Domdaniel: AJ addressed me as <DomIdiot> in a post that CG have deleted, along with my response. I really found this hilarious. As a piece of wit, it's nowhere near DanielPi's anagram "Die, old man". But, considering the source, it's a hoot. I enjoy the way he blunders into things beyond his comprehension. A recent exchange with CG included this: <LMAJ> -- <Now here is a serious question, and I am NOT trying to be a smart guy.> If he was, how could anyone tell? And...
<I am no math expert, but if there are 52 weeks in a year, then that is about <175,000 to 200,000> (or more!) games per year. A.) Does this change your assessment of the number of games? B.) How many games does CG currently have?
C.) Do you use TWIC as regular resource, and if so, why not? > The answer to B is permanently visible on both the homepage and the stats page. Can he really not know? Does it not occur to him to *look*? Could he possibly be so egotistically self-centred as to think CG weren't aware of TWIC? <and if so, why not? > Indeed.
Funniest thing since a house fell on Buster Keaton.
Sorry, folks, but he's just irresistible. But I'll try not to tell him how much I love him. He might get ideas. Then again, that's unlikely. Ideas, I mean. |
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Sep-21-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Shams> I haven't read the Farina novel either. I did once have a copy, but some book-pilfering lowlife nicked it before I could read it, and I never got round to finding a replacement. I had a vague impression that it was more Kerouac-ish than Pynchonesque, though they seem to have shared a goofy sense of humour. The kind of sensa yuma you really shouldn't ride a motorbike under the influence of. But, hey, it was the 1960s. The nanny state was still at nanny state school, and Reagan was a failed actor. TP was best man at his (Farina's, not Reagan's!) wedding to Mimi Baez, wasn't he? One wedding video I hope never to see on YewChoob. |
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Sep-21-11
 | | perfidious: <dom> From television, there was I Love Lucy, in which the actors were forbidden to utter that dreaded word 'pregnant', eventually settling for 'enceinte'. |
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| Sep-22-11 | | Thanh Phan: Hello <Domdaniel>! Informal names most times I are used to Thanh now, Many sorry for the real late respond, was a bit busy ~ Take care |
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| Sep-22-11 | | mworld: Ever since Bush left office, AJ has been doing a good job of taking his place for my morning laugh. I'm just sorry I missed this one. |
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| Sep-22-11 | | WBP: <Dom>, I note that you and <Shams> are having a discussion about Pynchon's roommate(s) at Cornell, and have centered the discussion around Richard Farina. I seem to recall reading somewhere that Pynchon also shared quarters (and perhaps dimes and nickels as well) with Jules Feiffer, who said that Pynchon never missed going to mass. Is this true, to your knowledge? |
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Sep-22-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Bill> That rings a bell. Unlike other known TP experiences and interests, though, there's little evidence of it in the books. We should factor in that any former friend revealing personal info becomes, almost by definition, an ex-friend. And as such might be a tad bitchy. Gravity's Rainbow has: the beautiful bass voice of a black American GI singing at a service in an English church; the birth of Christ as seen from the POV of cockroaches in the hay; a Bishop running, vestments flying (a pun on German 'Laufer', or chess ♗, literally 'runner') and, um, some *transectites*, who dress up as members of other religions. There's also a brief mention of teenage boys who get obsessed with Catholic priests, and hang around them, inhaling incense, looking longingly at their vestments and ... I suppose we'd call it 'grooming' now. I could probably construct a textual case, using passages from GR, to demonstrate that TP went through such a grooming process as a child. But then I could prove *anything* using that book - which is why it's up there with other great American fictions such as Moby Dick and The Book of Mormon. |
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Sep-22-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Thanh Phan> Thank you, Thanh. That wasn't 'real late' - by my standard, that was quick. I sometimes take *years* to reply to my friends. |
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Sep-22-11
 | | Domdaniel: <WBP> All this Farinaceous talk made me feel like getting back into the game, so I've registered at a Pynchon wiki. I suppose I could live there if this place got too stupid, but we're not there yet. As you know, there are three types of mathematician: those who can do arithmetic and those who can't. I'm increasingly led to see a fundamental divide - here on CG - between those who *know stuff* unrelated to chess, or know how to find it, or who have good vocabularies and broad interests ... actually there are no fixed rules. But you know who you are. And thanks. In the old days, there was a 'live and let live' convention between the polymathic and the chess puritans. Not any more. |
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Sep-22-11
 | | Annie K.: Eh, it's just flare-ups, sweet. As Jack Beauregard (the Old Western character played by the highly classy Henry Fonda in my fave movie) said, 'there were never any good old days'. ;) |
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Sep-22-11
 | | Domdaniel: True. But I never ackshly said they were 'good', did I? Just old, like me.
As Mr Burroughs wrote somewhere, "America is not a new land. The evil was there waiting." BTW, if Beauregard is your fave character, you might be innarested in an old John Prine song, "Come Back to us, Barbara Lewis Hare Krishna Beauregard". There's a mini-soap opera in the title alone. |
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Sep-22-11
 | | Annie K.: Sorry, you're still not old. :p
Heh, it's not exactly that Beauregard is my fave character - nor would it be exactly correct to say that "Nobody", the other leading character in the movie is, either - it's the <duo>, the interaction between them, that I really like. I've noticed a long time ago that my greatest favorites (books, movies), feature duos, whether couples or friends, doesn't matter which. Beauregard and "Nobody" as mentioned, Winnetou and Charlie in the Karl May books, Natty Bumppo and Chingachgook in J.F. Cooper's, two couples in my favorite Heinlein book (The Number of the Beast)... but it's invariably the 'two equal main characters' type of duo that ends up in my favorites list, not the hero-and-sidekick type. |
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