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| Mar-10-09 | | Woody Wood Pusher: <And preferably QUADRUPLE ROUND ROBINS and TWENTY FOUR GAME MATCHES where <Anatoli Karpov> loses 70 pounds and almost dies while playing. And then signs up for more the next year. And more. And more.> LOL
Maybe he would do better now against Kasparov, he has a lot more weight in reserve by the looks of it. haha
Your question about engine training is a good one <JFQ>. I'm probably not the best person to ask because I learned by playing people. Real people, OTB. But the <elephant training method> does sound valuable. One mode I always thought was good on Fritz was (I can't remember the name off the top of my head, sorry) but you could get it to gradually adjust its play to your level by playing games with it. The idea is it remains just tough enough to give you a good game. That was on Fritz 10, probably on the new one as well so you might like to look into that. TBH I think training against other people is 100% more valuable though, regardless of any new program tricks. Blunders are a part of chess, fun to spot, painful to make, and no engine simulates them well IMO. I also think playing against computers too much cramps your style, and might be bad for a developing player like yourself. I mean, would Tal have turned out to play the way he did if he had trained against an engine which punished him mercilessly and precisely every single time he got creative? An extreme example maybe, but good enough to illustrate the worries I have about overexposure to the engines while still impressionable. There, that's what I think, but probably I am just stuck in the past too much. haha
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Mar-10-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Wood> thanks for your valuable insights. Actually, to tell you the truth I'm happy to hear it as well. I believe I will restrict <engine "training"> to practice transitions from the <openings I use> into the Middle game, and for <Elephant method> end game finishes. That way I can put <Shreddy> on full blast and not worry about winning or losing or anything psychological. Unfortunately, against humans I can only play 2-3 live games a week at the most. I suppose that will be fine though- there are plenty of other things I do in my daily training regimen. <youtube> chess analysis videos in particular I find helpful. When they are done by a strong player- <Kingscrusher>, <Majnu>, for example- and when you frequently pause them-- and when you interrogate them with help of your own engine- Then a <10 minute> video actually tranlsates to an <hour or more> in terms of chess study time. If you are stuck in the past then I want to be too.
All I really want is to play at a chess club again and enter real tournaments and get a real chess rating against real people. Unfortunately, I may be in Korea for some time, as I accidentally have a stable and well-paying job in the middle of a world wide economic melt down. |
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Mar-10-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Woody> although I was initially shamed by your "tough love" <way of the Wood> coaching response, I think I owe you a great deal for such frankness.
Emboldened by your derision of <LCP>, despite my resolution- I was curious- and I just played it at work here. I'm tired- it's noisy here- but I opened <1.e4> against it and it "played" a <Winawer> except that when I played the stock <5.a3>, he "played" <5...Bf8??>. Ok so I knew that couldn't possibly be a good move.
so- in under 15 minutes playing time- I just destroyed it. I just assaulted his Kingside and smashed him like a bug. So clearly my inability and frustration with previous <LCP> encounters had to have been caused by me "psyching myself out" that I could never "beat a machine." It's like fog has lifted from my eyes.
I mean I moved carefully, but it was all over almost instantly. I managed to find a way to PUNISH <5...Bc8??> immediately and forcefully. Five or six moves after that I had his Kingside busted open and he was absoultely helpless. Ok- that is my last game ever against <LCP>. Although he enjoys a 99% win percentage against me-
I am 2/0 against him since Sunday.
AND NOW I'M RETIRING!!!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAAH
<SHOULD JESS RETIRE FROM PLAYING LITTLE CHESS PARTNER>? Yes, but only after proving she can thump it at will just like the rest of you guys. HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Ok then. I can't wait for Saturday's <Yahoo> game. THANKS <Wood and Howard and Elephant>!! |
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Fischer vs Benko, 1962 |
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| Mar-11-09 | | Eyal: Fischer vs Benko, 1962 <Well, it was a real heartbreak for me [...] it looks like I was going to win this by attack, but instead I get mated [...] I had seen the headlines already that was going to be published all over how I beat Bobby Fischer with a piece sacrifice, with a great attack. But it wasn't the case this time.> (http://www.chessville.com/reviews/M...) |
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: oooh thanks <N'Swaba>! I will look at the link you gave now.
I actually just "bookmarked" this game today because I wanted to look at it closer with my engine later. I noticed that two times <Bobby> had a chance to repair his pawn structure in the center, but in both cases he recaptured with a piece instead- I was thinking- that he was more interested in the opportunities for aggressively placed pieces at both points than in getting rid of his pawn island. Ok I"m going to read now. |
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Mar-11-09
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: Kasparov vs Ivanchuk, 1995 |
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <N'Swaba> ahh- it's from <Curacao> and mine was from <Stockholm>. Poor <Benko>!!
<Switching Owls for Thugs>- thanks for dropping me the game! I will investigate shortly... |
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: HOLY COW
<Ivanchuk> played <5...Bf8> in the <Winawer> AND HE BEAT <Kasparov> with it!! HAHAHAAH-
I guess it's safe to say that <Ivanchuk> is a stronger player than <Little Chess Partner>... Here, from the game page:
< diabloprancer: This may be my favorite game ever. The main line of the Winawer Defense pretty much closes up the center, and Ivanchuk of course recognizes that development and Bishops won't be that important with such a pawn structure. 5...Bf8! was such a great move that many amateurs have copied it without really understanding the point: f8 is the best square because it doesn't interfere with the Queenside pawn storm or the King's Knight's path to the queenside via e7. Great annotations by Keene...he shows that Kasparov made a few minor mistakes and Ivanchuk capitalized perfectly.> Thank you so much <Switching Owls for Thugs>!! Who knew? |
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| Mar-11-09 | | Eyal: Btw, there's a somewhat similar bizarre idea in the Winawer which I remember from discussions during the BoB game: <1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Bf8(!?!?)> - it can also be reached via 3...Nf6 4.e5 Ng8: click for larger viewMain ideas of this strategy, according to Watson's <Dangerous Weapons: the French>: <By playing Nc3, White has forfeited his natural defence of d4, which consists of the move c3, so the possibility of breaking it up by ...c5 increases.In the normal Winawer, when you have the bishop on b4 instead of f8, you encourage a3 as a response to c5. Not so with the bishop still sitting on f8. In addition, you don't have to worry about the Qg4 move that is such a bother after 3...Bb4, and you should be able to respond to White's choice of set-ups with an appropriate bishop development, e.g. on e7, c5, g7, or even back to b4. In any event, your opponent will be thrown upon his own resources. This comes with the psychological advantage that he feels compelled to refute what is "obviously" a bad system. Thus we often find White overextending.> On the other hand... <Let's face it: in just four moves, you've managed to both give up valuable territory and ruin your development.> If White has some sense of humor, this might even transpose into the Advance variation after [1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Bf8] 5.Nb1 c5 6.c3... |
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <N'Swaba>
heh...
Brilliant. What a truly strange opening the <French> is in general, not just the <Winawer>. I secretly believe that the whole thing is actually a "mistake" and people are too embarrassed to admit it now. <5.Nb1>...
heh...
HAHAHAHAHAHA
That <Holmes and Watson> book you cite seems to be interesting. Should I add it to my "to buy" list?
I'm going to buy at least 10 or more chess books this August. |
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| Mar-11-09 | | Eyal: <That <Holmes and Watson> book> The full title is: <Dangerous Weapons - The French: Dazzle Your Opponents>. I don't actually have the book, btw - I was quoting something which was posted during the game. From what I gathered it focuses on unconventional ideas in the French (for both colors), and as far as that goes it seems to be quite interesting. |
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| Mar-11-09 | | hms123: <jess> I have that dazzling book but haven't looked at it yet. I will start in on it and give you a full report in the next few weeks. In general, Watson is a great chess writer. I have his opening series (Mastering the Chess Openings) and have been through the first two. The third (as you know) is mostly on the English). I have not read that one through, but I am sure it is quite good and should remain on your list. |
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| Mar-11-09 | | hms123: <jess> Here is Feynman on "flabby social science": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZc... |
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| Mar-11-09 | | Open Defence: <If White has some sense of humor, this might even transpose into the Advance variation after [1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Bf8] 5.Nb1 c5 6.c3...
> that might be White's best line |
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| Mar-11-09 | | madlydeeply: one theory I have on the winawer is that castling is not necessary...the two center files are the locked files so that is where the kings belong. PS a "theory" means I spent at least 5 minutes thinking about it. Tal vs Botvinnik, 1960 |
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| Mar-11-09 | | madlydeeply: That Feynman post is awesome <hms>!! I agree totally, but also for most "hard sciences" as well! I wonder what he thought of EVOLUTION?? do you have any idea? Fun hearing that great man speak...
ciao
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Deffi>, yes, it might well be since White has an extra tempo to fool around with- secure that pawn chain with the <c3> angle. Imagine how much more "cagy" the openings could be if the pawns were allowed to move backwards? Say, for the first 10 moves pawns could go backwards. Help! That's heresy.
Mrs. Likes the Traditional Rules (although <Mr. Spock> was a good "3-D Chess Player") |
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Ok- be advised- and this means YOU- <Howard-- and Used to Be Samuel L. Jackson but is now Humphrey Bogart>- If a <evolution v. creationism> discussion breaks out in this forum I'm going to sell both of your <email addresses> to a <hard shell Baptist Lunatic exterme Right Wing electronic Mailing List> and I'm going to tell them that you are both <wealthy and extremely eccentric> and "aren't sure to do with your money." Don't test me on this! |
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Thanks tons for the <chess book> info. My "list to buy" is growing!! And since I make decent money and have nothing to spend it on, I was thinking of spending all two year's worth of my life's savings on Chess books. My "thinking" is that I should be able to buy a sufficient quantity to have them laminated and use them as a strange kind of "house" if I need to. Also, I may read a few of them, but only if I have time. |
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Humphrey Bogart: MD> That's a <fabulous> chess game, thanks! I bet <Deffi> likes your <Winawer> theory, as she has not castled in a game of chess since 1990, whether the center is closed OR open. <YoungEd: I don't know why, but I like watching Botvinnik lose.> Heh...
Stupid <French defence>. It's so beautiful though when people actually know how to play it. Oh yes and by EXTRAORDINARY coincidence, my game with our old friend <KlangenKlunkenFroggenFarben> has turned out to be a <Winawer> with him taking the Black pieces. So it was his idea.
Actually, he sometimes reads the posts at this webisite- or at least he used to. i wonder if he saw me posting about how much trouble I have playing against the French, and used this TOP SECRET info to get a leg up on me in the opening? Seems a little far fetched...
I think I'm going to play <Nb1> at some point although it might not work in Correspondence. Maybe I should have played a <Tarrasch>. Or just given him <Knight odds> so I REALLY don't have to worry about my Queen Knight blocking my <c-pawn>. |
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| Mar-11-09 | | Thorski: <Jess> How did you know I like the French? Defence, that is; the people I can take or leave. No, I'm joking. Great language for wooing women (I have to live down the thou-shalt-not-fornicate impression I must've given you on my forum.) Wish I spoke it. I do know German, which is a fine language, but the tongue of love it is patently not. Is it just me, or has the French become super popular on ICC these days? I'm always facing it. I tend to pick the Tarrasch as white, and like the Winawer as black. I usually do well against 3. e5, and the Milner-Barry Gambit has never given me trouble. Just don't take the e-pawn! |
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Mar-11-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Thorski>
heh...
Je parle en francais, mais mes mots sont tous incorrect, tous les temps. I have lost so many games playing <3..Nc3> that I've seriously been considering investigating the <Tarrasch>. Or, variations in which White plays the nifty <Nc3>, then <Nb1> and then <c3>. But Black has to give you the tempi by returning some of his own pieces to home base as well. As we were disussing aboe there. The <Miners from Barrie, Ontario> gambit I am not familiar with. I will have a look at it tomorrow at "work." |
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| Mar-11-09 | | hms123: <jess> Not to worry. No <evil>utionary discussion will break out. I had already moved the discussion to <md'> place before you made such dire and believable threats. The Classical French is great for Black--as long as the center is closed you just set up your pieces where you like and you can change your mind as well. I used to play <4...Ng8> as in this game: Ingo Sprewitz vs M Biendara, 2001 It made people crazy. Even against the Tarrasch: E Paoli vs Petrosian, 1967 |
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| Mar-11-09 | | Thorski: I speak French, something my something something incorrect, something the times? Bah... This is all you need: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHiM... This is the initial position of the Milner-Barry gambit:  click for larger viewAfter 8. 0-0, black captures the d-pawn, knights are exchanged, white usually plays Nc3, and black may or may not grab the e-pawn. I tend to avoid the tedious defensive lines after 10. Qxe5, and instead play a6, denying white the important b5-square. It's a fun gambit to play against. Might even try it as white. |
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