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| Sep-12-09 | | Open Defence: by George, Winona!! its a boy and he doesn't have pointy ears!! |
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| Sep-12-09 | | A Karpov Fan: I'm glad you liked the news links <jess>. Usually when I try to read a chess book for half an hour, in actuality I end up surfing for chess news. Which is why I don't improve.
Definitely certain similarities between this Kasparov-Karpov match and the Fischer-Spassky one you mentioned. The key ingredient to both seems to be good personal relations between the players. But the two K's are not pretending it is anything other than a celebration of past glories. It would not be surprising if Kasparov completely dominates this match tho becasue the difference in strength now seems insurmountable imo. I'm not sure most people wish that the Fischer-Spassky rematch never happened tho. Maybe the political side of it was distasteful, but from a chess perspective I would never wish a player not to play. okay back to my reading...
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malcolm |
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| Sep-12-09 | | WBP: <Jess> Part One: OK, so I'm hooked on the Fearsome Foursome. You showed how they did overall against Fischer, which gave me the impetus to see how they did against (first) Larsen, and then, each other. But how did they do against the other strongest players of their time (and here I'm thinking primarily of the late '50s and the '60s), namely, the World Champions Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, and Spassky? So, here's the dope: Smyslov vs. Geller +8 -11 =37
Smyslov vs. Korchnoi +5 -3 =13
Smyslov vs. Bronstein +6 -6 =26
Smyslov vs. Keres +9 -9 =22
Tal vs. Geller +6 -6 =25
Tal vs. Korchnoi +6 -13 +29
Tal vs. Bronstein +12 -8 =18
Tal vs. Keres +4 -8 =19
Petroasian vs. Geller +3 -5 =33
Petrosian vs. Korchnoi +10 -12 =50(!)
Petrosian vs. Bronstein +6 -2 =26
Petrosian vs. Keres +3 -3 =30
Spassky vs. Geller +10 -6 =23
Spassky vs. Korchnoi +16 -24 =35
Spassky vs. Bronstein +4 -1 =18
Spassky vs. Keres =5 -3 =19
So, what do we learn from this? (And I am disregarding, as before, very important things, such as the respective ages of the players when the games were played, conditions of the game, etc.) First of all, that Petrosian and Korchnoi basically spent half their respective lives together (over 70 games!--though Spassky and Korchnoi come close to that number).
Seriously, we quickly see how formidable a player Korchnoi truly was, having plus scores against three of the four (Smyslov, Petrosian, and Spassky--note how lop-sided that score is!) |
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| Sep-12-09 | | WBP: Part Two: We also see that the FF provided plenty of trouble for the WCs: Smyslov's and Petrosian's respective scores against them being even (+1 -1 =2, and +2 -2 =0), and Tal's a heavily losing record (+0 -3 =1). Tal, of course, had all kinds of health issues throughout his career that seriously compromised his play, but I did take a peek at his record vs. Keres, and discovered that 4 of Tal's losses to Keres were in 1959, when Tal was a force of nature. For a hoot, I also did the WC's against each other:
Tal vs. Smyslov +3 -5 =21
Tal vs. Petrosian +5 -6 =38
Tal vs. Spassky +7 -9 =32
Spassky vs. Petrosian +11 -10 =53
Spassky vs. Smyslov +5 -3 =16
Petrosian vs Smyslov +4 -6 =24
I haven't studied this too closely, but a quick perusal shows that Spassky had the best overall record against both the FF and the WCs--plus scores against all except Korchnoi--while Tal had the worst record of the eight--losing scores against all excepting an even score against Geller and a winning score against Bronstein. And Tal is one of my all-time favorite players! (But, as I say, health issues, etc. must all figure into this puzzle as well.) |
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| Sep-12-09 | | A Karpov Fan: <jess and WBP> I like this project you are getting on with <so I'm hooked on the Fearsome Foursome.> -lol-
I would like to help, how about if I drop a few key annotations from Kasparov's My Great Predecessors into some of the Korch's games? Would that be okay? |
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| Sep-12-09 | | achieve: <Jess> Couldn't answer right away at <H>'s because of some other things I had to attend to. Sorry. Yeah - I'm OK - though I feel like a jerk for the second late night in a row waiting for a live tennis game from soakin wet New York. Muddy even. Will address some in an email; a "few" busy days ahead though. |
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| Sep-13-09 | | notyetagm: Maroczy vs Charousek, 1896 This must be the most aggressive game I have *ever* seen from Black against a World class player (Maroczy). 18 ... ♗d6-b4!!
 click for larger view<blacksburg: the position after 18...Bb4 is very picturesque.> In-@#$%ing-credible.
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 click for larger view18 ... ♗d6-b4!!
 click for larger viewIt never ceases to amaze me what you can do on the chess board when you have *immense* <TACTICAL SKILL>, like Charousek did back then and Carlsen, Aronian, etc. do today. |
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Sep-13-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Bill n' Big Crawdaddy n' Anatoli> We're not actually opening the <Fantastic Four> forum until January, but I'm very cheered by your interest in the project. We can copy n' paste work into it later.
Or maybe I'll open it next weekend since it seems there are people who want to start helping on it right now. |
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| Sep-13-09 | | Open Defence: btw I now have <NINE> yes count em <NINE> games in the database... MUAHUAUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Sep-13-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Oh my goodness Ok I'm going in for a look-
(hoping it was <acirce> who suffered from your latest famous triumph) |
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Sep-13-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Coach>
Brilliant- both Bishops en prise and yet White is helpless. He can't take the LSB because he must not allow <Bb4xc3+>, and he can't take the DSB because that hangs the rook on <a1>... |
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Sep-13-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Cripes anyone who doesn't like chess is crazy. |
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| Sep-13-09 | | A Karpov Fan: < jessicafischerqueen: Cripes anyone who doesn't like chess is crazy.> Can I add the people who attempt the Sunday Puzzle to that list <Jess>? Especially the ones without a snowball's chance in hell of getting it even, like myself :-( |
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Sep-13-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Yes of course- the "Impossible Chess Puzzle" is a delight- if only for the opportunity it affords one to spend the rest of her life considering just one single chess position. |
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| Sep-13-09 | | Open Defence: U Hammarstrom vs S Hosea, 2009 S Thomson vs S Hosea, 2009
I think cg orders the game by date and these games started before... but took a while to finish |
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| Sep-13-09 | | A Karpov Fan: < jessicafischerqueen: Yes of course- the "Impossible Chess Puzzle" is a delight- if only for the opportunity it affords one to spend the rest of her life considering just one single chess position.> -lol-
I was thinking about having some fun and posting something like <I got this in 5 seconds, so simple> just to see if anybody would say anything
but I went and read the kibitz and saw that a few people essentially do that regularly anyway. no wonder ratings are on the up with so many tactical beasts like that around -lol-
(Actually I just read what I wrote there, sounds cynical doesn't it? Well I was only joking, I'm not like that. I just have a mental block atm sturdier than anything Nimzo ever devised. Endgame work is so tough this early in the morning... :-/) |
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Sep-13-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Anatoli Karpov>
Well- yes and no.
Let me tell you about that "puzzle page kibbutzing."
If one "solves" a chess puzzle by moving pieces around on a board- that is a useful thing to do, don't get me wrong- but it has little or no power to increase your actual OTB rating. And the vast majority of our puzzle solvers, redoubtable crew that they are, use a board and pieces to "solve" the puzzles. That's because in an OTB game you can't mess around with the pieces. Well I suppose you could if no one was looking...
But it is 10000000000 times harder to figure any position out through pure visualization. I stopped moving pieces around on my board in Correspondence games over a year ago. So my Correspondence rating went down- but my OTB rating went up. That's because the ability to see ahead- to calculate variations solely in your mind- is the real key to improving OTB rating. CASE CLOSED
I'm pretty sure about this one.
This is particularly the case with many varieties of <endgames> where vizualization is much tougher because in many cases you've got to calculate long variations in your head- no shortcut here, no matter how many "principles" you've absorbed and memorized. Case in point- there is a marvellous Chess Video study of a <Yasser Seirwan> game in which he calculates a <22 move> variation that wins on the last move- Now <that> is the skill necessary to improve OTB rating. And it's one of the reasons that games at short time controls are not "serious chess." It takes time to do that much thinking.
Here is the video analysis of that <Seirwan> game, conducted by the more than able <IM Dennis Rhinoceros>: http://www.chessvideos.tv/forum/vie... |
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Sep-13-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Anatoli Karpov>
Oh yes and BTW, I will not only be cheering for you in your upcoming match with <Garry Kasparov>- I'm going out on a limb and predicting victory for you. My "idea" is that you never retired. You've been active ever since <Garry> retired, and you have been particularly active this past year. Also, the difference between you and your arch-enemy was infintesimal to begin with. I think <Garry> was psychologically stronger. How else to explain that he won every match- except the first which was called off- when the total number of games played in all of the matches comes to what- +1 for <Garry> or something ridiculous like that? So I predict you will win. |
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| Sep-13-09 | | A Karpov Fan: <the vast majority of our puzzle solvers, redoubtable crew that they are, use a board and pieces to "solve" the puzzles.> I didn't know this, this is good to hear <Jess>, I was feeling a touch inadequate before :-) <I stopped moving pieces around on my board in Correspondence games over a year ago.So my Correspondence rating went down- but my OTB rating went up.> I play some CC chess too, but my method is to examine the position as deeply as possible without moving the pieces, <then> to move a few and repeat. I would think you are right that the rating remains artificially high with moving the pieces tho, but I suspect many opponents do this as well (and worse :-O ) <That's because the ability to see ahead- to calculate variations solely in your mind- is the real key to improving OTB rating.> yeah, I would have to agree, and also add that of late I have been attempting more long term planning as well. A plan actually helps with spotting the tactics a lot, well according to some DVD lessons I am looking at just now. But planning requires experiece, and I'm a bit short on that in most positions -lol- thanks for the link to that website, it appears that I need to subscribe to view the video, but there are some other interesting things on there for free :-) <I'm going out on a limb and predicting victory for you.> Wow, not even I am predicting victory for me. That is most kind of you! <How else to explain that he won every match- except the first which was called off-> I may be getting a bit long in the tooth, and prefer eating pies to playing chess now, but I would sware I managed to draw a match too ;-) |
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| Sep-13-09 | | malthrope: <jessicafischerqueen: Cripes anyone who doesn't like chess is crazy.> That, my dear Jess, should very well be made the Chess quote of the day! :D ...if not for the entire MONTH!! ~lol~
I fully concur. <grin of 'quotes & anecdotes' ensues> ____________________________________
<notyetagm: Maroczy vs Charousek, 1896This must be the most aggressive game I have *ever* seen from Black against a World class player (Maroczy). 18 ... ♗d6-b4!!
 click for larger view<blacksburg: the position after 18...Bb4 is very picturesque.> In-@#$%ing-credible. [...]
It never ceases to amaze me what you can do on the chess board when you have *immense* <TACTICAL SKILL>, like Charousek did back then and Carlsen, Aronian, etc. do today.> So true! ;) The old Masters sure could play a mean game of Chess! :)) <notyetagm> - thanks so much for posting that classic "Blast from the Past!" It's also one of the main reasons we all so dearly *luv* the one named: Rudolf Rezso Charousek :D It's a great pity that he died young (at the age of 26 of tuberculosis)... :(( I'm so glad for the games that have survived but just think of all those incrediable Chess games we could have dreamed about if only he would have been allowed to play them! :)) A concept far beyond mere words... ;) ____________________________________
<Open Defence: btw I now have <NINE> yes count em <NINE> games in the database... MUAHUAUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA> Excellent Deffi! :) When I'm finally ready I'm hoping to upload a minimum of 30 games (probably spread out over a few week's time) to my eventual Player's page here on <CG.com>. Well, it's the only way I could think of to keep my winning percentage down! ~lol~ Hence, you'll also see just how Mal loses... <another glorious 'grin' ensues> ____________________________________
Finally (in reply to the fabulous Chess quote above that Jess has now engraved within our minds): <A Karpov Fan: Can I add the people who attempt the Sunday Puzzle to that list <Jess>? Especially the ones without a snowball's chance in hell of getting it even, like myself :-(> I predict that someday you'll be surprised (that YOU too will be able to do this) what relentless determination and the shrewd use of guile will do for you! The implementation and persistence of the 'midnight oil' contains almost as many secrets as the Goddess herself - Caissa! :^) My Best Always, - Mal
PS: One last...
<A Karpov Fan: I was thinking about having some fun and posting something like <I got this in 5 seconds, so simple> ... just to see if anybody would say anything
but I went and read the kibitz and saw that a few people essentially do that regularly anyway.> Hehehe... ;) Well, even though I'm getting up in years I can still manage on occasion to see the magical "key idea" in 10-15 seconds. Then depending on the difficulty of the task at hand the final solution generally follows shortly... Although, I must admit the really hard ones (the ones that take you hours and hours) give me the greatest pleasure and awards when they are finally solved! :D |
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Sep-13-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: HI <MAL>!!!!!!!!!!!! heh
You've come back with a vengeance- with a patented <Mal> MEGA POST! <Anatoli Karpov>
Yes I know- tie goes to the title holder- But now it's time for the "Revenge of Anatoli"... Also, you don't need to pay anything to see that video- you just have to register- you give your email to them or some bollocks- anyways it's well worth it. |
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Sep-13-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: OK quick question-
If you have frozen strawberries in your freezer for one year, is it still safe to eat them? Embarrassingly, I kind of need to know...
I'm very thirsty and the stores are all closed now -- and you can't drink tap water in Korea. Well I suppose you could, but good luck to you afterwards. But I don't want to be killed by a strawberry either. |
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| Sep-13-09 | | A Karpov Fan: how about boiling the tap water Ray Mears style <Jess>? |
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| Sep-13-09 | | A Karpov Fan: Ray could make a meal out of anything, I heard he once cooked a camel crap by keeping it in the bottom of his boot while he walked across the desert. By the end of his journey it was ready to eat. I wonder what he washed it down with? |
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| Sep-13-09 | | crawfb5: Re: frozen strawberries...
The answer I get is thaw them and give them the sniff test. If they smell bad, don't eat them. "Taste of it, and be not afraid." |
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