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| Feb-18-19 | | Straclonoor: <Telemus>
< Have you ever tried to solve real endgame studies by an engine or tablebases?!> Yes, I have.<Engines and tablebases can help to find such a set of lines>
There is a big difference between engine and endgame tablebases analysis. Engines give us <set of lines, but it needs often a lot of work and experience on the human side.>
Tablebases gives solution with 100% certainity. Yes, we can search alternative lines in this case for example for training. In other cases it's wasting the time. <In particular, I thought that no lines with the breakthrough h4 are needed.> Yes <If you look to the line you posted, you'll see that White's king goes to d3 (while the Kvicalas move it to f3). This also suggests that lines with h4 are not necessary. Can you solve this problem? I have the answer, but the journey is the reward.>
Lomonosov's TB7 gives three winning moves - 1.Ke4 (#36), 1.Kd4 (#36), 1.Kd3 (#37). All the rest goes to draw. It's free of charge reward-:))) |
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Mar-02-20
 | | MissScarlett: I’ve always pronounced his name <Cha-roo-sek>; now I discover it’s <Ka-roo-sek>. Disappointing! |
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May-15-20
| | MissScarlett: <[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Rudolf Rezso Charousek"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 d6 4.Bb5 Bd7 5.Nc3 Nf6 6.O-O Be7 7.Re1 exd4 8.Nxd4
O-O 9.Nde2 Ne5 10.Bxd7 Nfxd7 11.Ng3 Nc5 12.Be3 Qe8 13.Bxc5 dxc5 14.f4 Nc6
15.Nd5 Rd8 16.c3 Bh4 17.Nf5 Bxe1 18.Nf6+ Kh8 19.Qh5 gxf6 20.Qh6 1-0> Anyone recognise this game? Black is given as <Konyovitz>. |
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| May-17-20 | | Jean Defuse: ...
<MissScarlett: Anyone recognise this game?> [Event "Budapest"]
[Date "1896.01.11"]
[White "Charousek, Rudolf Rezso"]
[Black "Konyovits, Miklos"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C66"]
Source: Magyar Sakktortenet Vol. 3, p. 53
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| May-17-20 | | Atking: <MissScarlett: I’ve always pronounced his name <Cha-roo-sek>; now I discover it’s <Ka-roo-sek>. Disappointing!> ;I did the same mistake. By the way you posted a very charming game. Thanks too to <Jean Defuse> for the additional information. |
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May-17-20
 | | Annie K.: <MissScarlett: <I’ve always pronounced his name <Cha-roo-sek>; now I discover it’s <Ka-roo-sek>. Disappointing!>> Wait until you find out it's actually Ka-roo-<sh>ek. ;) |
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| Apr-24-21 | | Nosnibor: Nowhere in the data base are the four consultation games between Charousek and Fahndrich against Marco and Schlechter which were contested at the Vienna Chess Club October 1897. This interesting match finished 2-2. One win each and two draws. |
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Apr-24-21
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<Nosnibor>
Schlechter / Marco vs Faehndrich / Charousek, 1897 Faehndrich / Charousek vs Schlechter / Marco, 1897 |
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| Apr-24-21 | | Nosnibor: <jessicafischerqueen> Thanks for that but why are they not included within the Charousek section or for that matter Schlechter`s ? After all other consultation games are. |
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Apr-24-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Nosnibor> The cg.com sorting code can only sort discrete players one at a time into their respective player pages. So in this case: Metger / Schiffers / Teichmann vs Charousek, 1897 and all other examples in the Charousek page, <Charousek> is recognized as a solo player- therefore, <Metger / Schiffers / Teichmann> is also recognized as a player for the purposes of being sorted in to the Charousek page. However, if both teams have more than one player, then that consultation game will never be added to any one player's page on that team. This is a serious design flaw, and despite persistent complaints about this for decades, <Daniel Freeman> never changed the code so that all the consultation games show up in the list for each player on each consultation team. So for example, it would be good if Metger / Schiffers / Teichmann vs Charousek, 1897 showed up on the player pages of <Metger>, <Schiffers> and <Teichmann>. But it doesn't, and until the code is re-written, it never will either. Look at the <Metger> page, and you will not find Metger / Schiffers / Teichmann vs Charousek, 1897 . The only reason you find it on the <Charousek> page is because he is playing solo- not part of a consultation team. I think this is a serious error in our coding. Possibly a suggestion to the admins might help? We have new administration now, and perhaps they will act on this. |
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| Apr-25-21 | | Nosnibor: <jessicafischerqueen> I appreciate what you are saying and appreciate the trouble you have gone to. However you mention a game Metger, Schiffers and Teichmann versus Charousek properly figuring amongst the page on Charousek. I should point out that Charousek had the assistance of Marco and Suchting in this game . |
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Apr-25-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Nosnibor>
<Marco and Suchting> if they are missing, no problem. Please supply source documentation, and I will edit the game to look like this: Metger / Schiffers / Teichmann vs Charousek / Marco / Suchting The Metger / Schiffers / Teichmann vs Charousek, 1897 game will no longer appear on Charousek's player page, but I believe it is much, much more important to have accurate game information- especially about who actually played the game. |
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| Apr-25-21 | | Nosnibor: <jessicafischerqueen> If the previous game that I have mentioned requires to be transferred then perhaps the following one could replace it. In this game the white pieces were played by three chess problemists in Prague 1897. White: Kotrc, Kvicala and Svejda. Black: Charousek Opening: Giuoco Piano. 1 e4,e5. 2 Nf3,Nc6. 3 Bc4,Bc5. 4 c3,Nf6. 5 d4,exd4. 6 cxd4,Bb4
+, 7 Bd2,Bxd2+. 8 Ngxd2,Nxe4. 9 Nxe4,d5 10 Bd3, dxe4. 11 Bxe4, Ne7. 12 Qxc2,c6. 13 0-0, h6. 14 Ne5, 0-0. 15 Rad1, Be6. 16 Rfe1, Bd5. 17 f4, Bxe4. 18 Rxe4, Nd5. 19 Qf2, Nf6. 20 Re2, Qd5. 21 a3, Rad8. 22 Qf3, Rfe8. 23 Re3, Re6. 24 g3, Red6. 25 Qxd5, Nxd5. 26 Rb3, Nb6. 27 Rbd3, f6. 28 Nf3, c5. 29 b3, Rd5. 30 a4, c4! 31 bxc4, Nxc4. 32 Rc1, Nb6. 33 Rb3, R8d7. 34 Ra1, Ra5. 35 Rb5, Rd5. 36 Rb4, Ra7. 37 Rb5, Rxb5. 38 axb5, Nc8. 39 Rc1, Nd6. 40 b6, axb6. 41 Rb1, b5. 42 Kf2, Re7. 43 Rb3, Kf7. 44 g4, Ke6. 45 Re3+, Kd7. 46 Rxe7+, Kxe7. 47 f5, Kd7. 48 Ke3, Kc6. 49 Kd3, b4. 50 Kd2, Kd5. White resigns 0-1 Charousek showed in this game how to exploit the isolated Queen`s pawn with great effect. |
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Apr-25-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Nosnibor> Amazing! That is a new game eh? I would be happy to upload it, but I need to know the provenance brah. I need to list your source for changing the players in Metger / Schiffers / Teichmann vs Charousek, 1897 , and for the new game you just posted. I can't change anything unless I can list a source. |
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| Apr-25-21 | | Nosnibor: <jessicafischerqueen> Source of the Metger/ Schiffers/ Teichmann vs Charousek/ Marco/ Suchting game are pages 204-205 of Sergeants " Charousek`s Games Of Chess". This is also the source of my last offering which are found on pages 202-204. |
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Apr-25-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Nosnibor>
Wonderful!
Metger / Schiffers / Teichmann vs Charousek / Marco / Suchting, 1897 =========
There are some transcription errors in the new Charousek pgn you posted- I marked a few here: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. d4 exd4 6. cxd4
Bb4+ 7. Bd2 Bxd2+ 8. <Ngxd2> should be Nbxd2 Nxe4 9. Nxe4 d5 10. Bd3 dxe4
11. Bxe4 Ne7 12. <Qxc2> should be Qc2 c6 13. O-O h6 14. Ne5 O-O 15. Rad1 Be6
16. Rfe1 Bd5 17. f4 Bxe4 18. Rxe4 Nd5 19. Qf2 Nf6 20. Re2
Qd5 21. a3 Rad8 22. Qf3 Rfe8 23. Re3 Re6 24. g3 Red6
25. Qxd5 Nxd5 26. Rb3 Nb6 27. Rbd3 f6 28. Nf3 c5 29. b3 Rd5
30. a4 c4 31. bxc4 Nxc4 32. Rc1 Nb6 33. Rb3 R8d7 34. Ra1
Ra5 35. Rb5 Rd5 36. Rb4
From here, the score you posted doesn't seem to make any sense- 
click for larger viewThe score continues 36...Ra7 (illegal move) 37.Rb5 Rxb5 38.axb5 Nc8 19.Rc1 This version also doesn't make sense: 36...Ra6 37.Rb5 Rxb5 38.axb5 Nc8?? 
click for larger view==========
Maybe take another look at the source score?
Also, when preparing a pgn, please use exactly this syntax: 1. e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6
That is the universally used syntax across all online chess databese. This is the syntax that can be copied and pasted into a chess engine or pgn viewer. Please avoid using commas or periods that follow a move- Don't do this: 1. e4,e5. 2.Nf3,Nc6. 3. and so on. |
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| Apr-26-21 | | Nosnibor: <jessicafischerqueen> Apologies. 36...Rd7 should have been shown. This will now make sense of the game. Thanks for the syntax lesson! |
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Apr-26-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Nosnibor> Thank you! Surprisingly, the game was already in our database, able to "hide" from us because our software cannot pick a player out of a consultation team and include him in the list of games on that player's home page= as we have been discussing: Kotrc / Kvicala / Svedja vs Charousek / Moucka / Tuzar, 1897 As usual, the uploader of this game did not provide any source. This would be helpful, but maybe we can find out more about Charousek consulting with Moucka and Tuzar on this game by going to their player pages. Back in a bit- and thanks for all your work! |
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| Apr-26-21 | | Jean Defuse: ...
see the ignored post: Rezso Charousek ... |
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Apr-26-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Jean Defuse> Thank you! The last piece of the puzzle, then. |
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| May-18-21 | | Jean Defuse: ...
<Can someone provide more information about this consultation game?> Charousek/Brody/Konyovits v Makovetz/Allies
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Qh4+ 4. Kf1 g5 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. d4 Ne7 7. g3 Qh6 8. h4
Qc6 9. Bd5 Nxd5 10. Nxd5 Na6 11. hxg5 fxg3 12. Kg2 Qe6 13. Nf3 d6 14. Bd2 c6
15. Nf4 Qe7 16. Nh5 Rg8 17. e5 dxe5 18. dxe5 Be6 19. g6 fxg6 20. Bg5 Qc5 21.
Nxg3 Bd5 22. Rxh7 Rf8 23. Rxg7 Rxf3 24. Ne4 Bxe4 25. Qd7+ Kf8 26. Rf1 Rf4+ 0-1 ... |
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| Mar-15-23 | | stone free or die: Perhaps the first reference to Charousek as a comet (or meteor)? Maybe not, but then again... From DSZ v55 N5 (May 1900) p162
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Miscellany
<Rudolf Charousek†> f. On April 18th of J., the chess master was relieved of his severe suffering, for which there was no longer any help. Like a meteor, Charousek appeared on the chess sky in 1896, only to disappear forever afterwards. In the short span of time he has graced the championship tournaments, he either stayed first or came close to becoming first. In Nuremberg, however, in the first rush, he only managed to get a special prize, but shortly afterwards, in the same year in Budapest, he was already fighting with Chigorin for the first prize. In 1897 he was undisputed first in the national master tournament in Budapest and in the international master tournament in Berlin; only between these two victories was a relatively minor success: the second prize in the master tournament of the chess club "Centrum" in Berlin. In 1898 Charousek was already visibly stricken with the fatal illness. He could no longer take part in the Vienna master tournament; he only had the strength , to compete for first prize in the smaller tournament in Cologne. He almost achieved it. It was a sign of high opinion, but also deep sympathy, that chess friends in general saw the failure of strength in a single game (a point was missing to the first rank). This high opinion of the chess world is now the laurel wreath, which is imperishably emblazoned over the grave of the master. Charousek had only completed his 26th year on September 19, 1899 (cf. the portrait and the biographical note in the January issue of 1898 ); he died surrounded by his relatives in Tétény in Hungary.> |
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| Mar-27-23 | | Khudozhnik: Started reading Kasparov's MGP and very surprised to see no mention whatsoever of this great player. |
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| Mar-27-23 | | Olavi: <Khudozhnik> The point of Kasparov's OMGP, stated and implicit, is to outline the development of chess thought as expressed in the games of the greatest, as well as in their writings to some extent. Charousek doesn't really come into it, I'm afraid. Of course the books include all sorts of sidelines, so why not mention how promising he was considered etc. |
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Apr-01-25
| | MissScarlett: (Worcestershire & Staffordshire) County Express, December 4th, 1897, p.7: <The Committee of the City of London Chess Club is thinking of holding a quadrangular match after the manner of the St. Petersburg contest, each player contesting four or five games with every other. The four players chosen to take part are Charousek (winner of the Berlin Tournament), Caro, Atkins, and Bellingham.> This from Bellingham's own column. Charousek never played in Britain, of course. |
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