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|Apr-24-10|| ||keypusher: I have to say, though, 3.Nc3 against the Robatch seems like playing into Black's hands. I would expect you'd see 3.c4 or 3.c3 a lot.|
|Apr-24-10|| ||refutor: if 3.c4, then i reply 3. ...Nf6! and get a KID :)|
|Apr-25-10|| ||keypusher: <refutor> which should make White happy if the database statistics are anything to go by. But i suppose many people who play 1.e4 don't know how to play it.|
|Apr-25-10|| ||refutor: i trust kingside attacks more than database statistics :) realistically, the robatsch is second or third on my "depth chart" v. 1.e4 and the KID is at the top of my 1.d4 openings, so if they are willing to transpose so am i.|
|Apr-30-10|| ||parisattack: <refutor: if 3.c4, then i reply 3. ...Nf6! and get a KID :)>|
A popular solution. I don't care at all for the KID, so I take my chances with the Averbakh. But, yes, c4 makes life a bit tougher for the Robatsch player.
|May-08-10|| ||A Karpov Fan: This opening is garbage. So why do I keep losing to it? lol|
|May-20-10|| ||Archswindler: <A Karpov Fan: This opening is garbage. So why do I keep losing to it?>|
And why do I keep winning with it?
|Nov-26-10|| ||parisattack: Speaking of the Robatsch (Opening of the Day) - has anyone seen the new book on it, The Sniper?|
It was supposed to have been released by now, but no sign of it...
I note the Robatsch continues to get good results per the CG.com database -acknowledging that often it is a strong black playing a weaker white and some of them are in fact a Pirc.
|Dec-17-11|| ||Penguincw: Opening of the Day
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I know this as the modern defense.
|Dec-29-11|| ||muwatalli: I am looking for some sacrificial/attacking players who play the pirc and/or robatsch defense to study their games, or perhaps just players with low draw percentage?|
|Jun-27-12|| ||pajaste: I was going to repeat the question of the difference Pirc/Robatsch/Modern, but won't. Instead I'll call it Robatsch if white loses, Pirc if it's a draw and modern defence if white wins.|
|Jun-27-12|| ||parisattack: The Robatsch continues to fair well in the CG database with the Fast Tiger/Sniper and Hippo variations getting most of the action.|
|Dec-02-12|| ||parisattack: Updating the Robatsch Book List:
Tiger’s Modern – Persson
Modern Defence – Speelman/McDonald
The Hippopotamus Rises – Martin
Black to Play and Win with 1. …g6 by Soltis
Winning with the Modern by Norwood
The Modern Defence by Hort
The Modern Defense by Smith/Hall
The Modern Defence by Keene/Botterill
The Modern Defense by Chess Digest
The North Sea Variation by Bickford
Averbakh system by Thomas
Modern Defense Averbakh Lines by Schiller
New Ideas in the Rat by Schiller
Die Robatsch Verteidigung by Warzecha
Die Eidechse 1. …g6 und gewinnt, 3 volumes.
The Sniper - Henley
Crushing White: The Sniper I - Henley
Fly the Pterodactyl - Schiller
The Modern Defense: Move by Move - Lakdawala
Winning with the Krazy Kat and Old Hippo - Gifford
Konigs-Fianchetto - Schwarz
Hippopotamus - Thompson
|Dec-02-12|| ||Shams: <parisattack> How is the Soltis book? I know he is notoriously hit-and-miss as an author.|
|Dec-03-12|| ||parisattack: Its actually not too bad a little book <Shams>. Certainly a couple notches above those awful 24-pagers he wrote for the same publisher - Ken Smith/Chess Digest.|
128 pages, three sections: A) How to play against 1. e4 player, B) How to play against 1. d4 player and C) Odds-Ends. He recommends flavors of the Gurgenidze ('3 ...c6!') against 1. e4 which has always been my favorite. Against 1. d4 -> c4 he covers the Averbakh, 4. ...Nc6. Final sections some interesting odds-ends.
|Dec-03-12|| ||jackpawn: <parisattack> Rather amazingly I was looking at the Soltis book just a few hours ago. I had it for years, but only recently began looking at it seriously. |
I agree with your assessment, it isn't a bad book.
|Dec-03-12|| ||Shams: <parisattack> Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for the book. I've been playing Tiger's early ...a6 instead of the Gurgenidze, but that could change anytime.|
|Dec-04-12|| ||parisattack: The Hippo and the Tiger seem most popular these days. The old Robatsch with ...d6, ...c6 and either ...b5 or the Poison Pawn ...Qb6 still has some life.|
|Dec-06-12|| ||jackpawn: <parisattack> I've been a French player most of my life, but recently I've been looking at 1 . . g6. Been playing speed games with it against various computers. I find I generally get a favorable early middlegame, but then often let the position spin out of control. How long did it take before you got a feel for typical modern opening positions?|
|Dec-07-12|| ||parisattack: < jackpawn: <parisattack> I've been a French player most of my life, but recently I've been looking at 1 . . g6. Been playing speed games with it against various computers. I find I generally get a favorable early middlegame, but then often let the position spin out of control. How long did it take before you got a feel for typical modern opening positions?>|
I've always wanted to like the French - but have just never been able to get a feel for it.
Timing is the key in the Robatsch, seems to me. Especially in a variation such as the Hippo. White has space a long time so it is easy to try to get too much, too soon.
I played it several months before settling on the Gurgenidze variation - and forty years later I am still working with it. I recently pulled all the articles on it from Shakmatnyi Byulletin and studying those. But objectively I think the Tiger is the most easy to get comfortable in a short time. Lots of good games with it in the CG.com database - and of course Persson's book. Play over the White wins first - then if your stomach can still handle it, play over the Black wins. :)
|Dec-09-12|| ||jackpawn: <parisattack> Thanks for your input. I tend to agree with your thoughts. One problem I seem to be having is I'm very aware of certain themes and positional 'posts' in the French, but the Modern is much more fluid. It's a big change from typical French positions. I'm gradually becoming more comfortable, especially with the Tiger . . .|
|Dec-09-12|| ||parisattack: <jackpawn> I would enjoy seeing some of your games as/if you choose to post them.|
Gurg most like the French I think - at least Nimzo style with blocked center, restraint on the kingside, play on the queenside.
|Dec-19-12|| ||wwall: Pirc and Modern Defense [B02-05] - Davies & Martin
Developments in the Pirc and Modern Systems, 1984-87 by Davies
Dangerous Weapons - the Pirc and the Modern - Palliser, McNab, and Vigus
Beating the Pirc/Modern with the Fianchetto Variation - Soltis
500 Pirc Miniatures - Wall ( I included the Robatsch)
|Dec-20-12|| ||parisattack: Grazie! I've never seen the 'Pirc' 500 and thought I had them all. :(|
|Nov-20-13|| ||pajaste: Stockfish - Houdini (TCEC round4, 2013)
1.e4 g6 2.d4 c6 ... 1-0 final position:
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