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M61MG Wrestler
Member since Jun-28-09 · Last seen Nov-05-14
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   M61MG Wrestler has kibitzed 26 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Nov-05-14 M61MG Wrestler chessforum (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: ==== <James Demery> The link has been updated to this one: Robert James Fischer As the owners of this website clean up the old trash, the links above get broken. You called on an investigation of the M61MG book's legitmacy, and Trice's puppet <hackmate> made up a
 
   Jun-16-14 Viktor Korchnoi (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: <petrosianic: a few words that Fischer didn't even say (see "My 61 Memorable Games Hoax"). > http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... .
 
   Sep-27-12 Adams vs Gelfand, 2012 (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: Whereas Adams is seventh place....he needs to try harder. :)
 
   Feb-15-12 Bobby Fischer (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: <♗=== UGH ===♗> <Joshka: <rannewman> Those notes were collected and written over decades, and according to reports I've read, they measure some 22 inches high stacked on top of one another! The bootlegged book was printed in Iceland 2007. IM Larry ...
 
   Jun-23-11 jessicafischerqueen chessforum (replies)
 
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   Aug-12-09 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: In my profile I am having difficulty getting certain lines to separate, without adding a blank line in between. How can I ensure that a line of text starts on a new line? Here is an example that DOES NOT SEPARATE with a carriage return: Evans 1st M61MG Article ...
 
   Jul-25-09 Kibitzer's Café (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: ♗/////NO ONE BANNED\\\\\ ♗ Reminder to all: If you want to discuss or investigate the book "My 61 Memorable Games", I invite you to visit my chessforum. Other sites on the internet may not allow the discussion from all users that takes place on my forum.
 
   Jul-25-09 Shirov vs R Panjwani, 2009 (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: ♗/////NO ONE BANNED\\\\\ ♗ If you want to discuss or investigate the book "My 61 Memorable Games", I invite your to visit my chessforum, on which no CG.COM user is banned from participating. Other sites on the internet may not allow the discussion that takes ...
 
   Jul-03-09 H Olafsson vs P Smirnov, 2008 (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: ♗////LINKS NEEDED\\\\♗ I'm looking for good links to headline the "Uncovering the Truth" page. See the short kibitz history on my forum. Improvements solicited, and most welcome.
 
   Jun-29-09 chancho chessforum (replies)
 
M61MG Wrestler: New location for discussing "My 61 Mem Games", including all* previous posts on that topic from Mrs. Alekhine's forum. Click my Avatar to join in. Anyone is welcome. *some pruning has occurred on irrelevant posts.
 
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Uncovering the Truth About M61MG

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Jun-21-09  Nietzowitsch: The liar is a person who uses the valid designations, the words, in order to make something which is unreal appear to be real.
Jun-22-09  robmtchl: Yes, Cancho found me. :-)
Here is another he missed though.

http://www.mp3.com.au/Forms/MediaVi...

Jun-22-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen: <Rob>-- me and <Jim> are trying to settle a bet.

Did you, or did you not, participate in the <Doolittle Raid>?

Jun-22-09  robmtchl: < jessicafischerqueen: <Rob>-- me and <Jim> are trying to settle a bet.

Did you, or did you not, participate in the <Doolittle Raid>?>

The B-25 was called the Mitchell Bomber.
:-)

australianpolitics.com/tag/rob-mitchell

www.rbmitchell.com

www.cclay.com/robmitchell

But the Merchant Circle listing and the MP3.com.au link are the real me. :-)

"He's everywhere, He's everywhere!"

Jun-24-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen: Just got back from the <Fischer> thread and Party's Over ladies and gentlemen.

I officially no longer care what happens on the Fischer thread.

People get exactly what they want in the end, usually.

<Mage of Maple>, <Chancho>, <Ed Labate>-

Thanks you guys-- When you or anyone else tells me they have copied and archived this thread, post the "GO AHEAD" here and I'm deleting all of it.

The time limit is FIVE DAYS.

Exactly FIVE DAYS from now I delete all of this and it's <AA Alekhine Shrine> again.

Thanks to you all-

Jess

Jun-24-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: <The liar is a person who uses the valid designations, the words, in order to make something which is unreal appear to be real.>

As nothing is real, this 'liar' sounds like my kinda person. Where do I get to meet these crazy mixed-up fantabulists?

Jun-24-09  MageOfMaple: Moving the thread to another page would be good. Archiving it, or hosting the static pages on some other server, would be less desirable, given the current state of things. I would say just delete it all and let's move on, because no one is going to listen to Trice about anything anyway, except for the fact that we've still got an IM pushing the Fischer forgery. (And, yes, <IMlDay>, I understand that identifying the forgery as a forgery makes me a "zombie.")
Jun-25-09  brankat: <JessicaFQ> “We succeeded in taking that picture , and, if you look at it, you see a dot. That's here. That's home. That's us.

On it everyone you know, everyone you love, everyone you've ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines. Every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there - on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.

Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity -- in all this vastness -- there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us.

It's been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character-building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish this pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known. ”

– Carl Sagan commenting on a picture of the earth taken by Voyager 1.

Jun-25-09  brankat: <Mrs. AAA> Along the same lines: when was it last time You had a chance to listen to something like Cat Stevens's "Morning has Broken".

In comparison, the pettiness of goings-on of Fischer page, or, for that matter, any other one, pales.

So, relax.

Jun-25-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: <brankat> *Morning has Broken* was written by Eleanor Farjeon around 1911. The Cat merely added a tune.

As for *Relax* ... Frankie Goes to Hollywood, yes?

But these are trifles. In the great scheme of things you are, of course, right.

Jun-26-09  whiskeyrebel: Sadly, as long as the bootlegger has heaps of books to sell, it won't be really over.
Jun-26-09  Riverbeast: <Sadly, as long as the bootlegger has heaps of books to sell, it won't be really over>

All we need is for an admirer of Fischer to get a hold of the book and scan it, in its entirety, on the internet....So everyone can read it for free and nobody will pay for it anymore.

I'm sure that will be done sooner or later

Jun-26-09  MageOfMaple: Personally, I'm glad the book hasn't been scanned. It contains some truly awful writing, supposedly by Fischer, talking about his feelings ("inner smirk" and such), so I find it's very existance offensive. I don't want anyone downloading it and thinking Bobby actually wrote that drivel. If it's scanned, it will live on in cyberspace forever. I don't want to see Trice's handiwork imortalized.
Jun-26-09  Riverbeast: Why not scan it with the caveat that the book is a fake, and giving the reasons why?

Then we can all have a good time poking fun at the bad writing...Maybe add some commentary to some of the more heinous phrases.

That reminds me of a show that used to be on TV, modelled after "Masterpiece Theatre", called "Disasterpiece Theatre"

They would show particularly bad movies, then make comments during the film. Very entertaining!

Jun-26-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen: You know what's really awful--

<Trice> doesn't want the book scanned either. If he did, then he would have already done it himself, or ordered one of his minions to do it for him.

He's got what- 200-500 copies sitting there on his floor?

You'd think he'd just wait till all of you stop yelling at him all over the internet and then start trying to sell them- after the fuss has died down.

This may mean that you soldiers may have to spend the rest of your lives debunking this book and its creator.

I don't envy you.

Jun-26-09  MageOfMaple: <Riverbeast: Why not scan it with the caveat that the book is a fake, and giving the reasons why?>

Cause we wouldn't be the ones in a position to do that.

<jessicafischerqueen: But I've also banned Trice and Joshka from posting here for the last three days.>

Have mixed feelings about that.

Jun-27-09  brankat: Some things never change. Or is it: all things?

Beware of <Labate>. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

"Leaping and hopping on the Moon Shadow...".

Jun-27-09  robmtchl: Here is a spot where the discussion may be continued.

http://my61fraud.blogspot.com/

Jun-28-09  brankat: A discussion?
Jun-28-09  Jim Bartle: Ed Trice: <From

Mrs. Alekhine chessforum

Notice how she sounds exactly like Ed Labate:

<jessicafischerqueen: I don't envy you.>

Exact same words Ed Labate said to me in January 2008. He always ends his idle threats with those words. His exact quote in his last email to me:

"Like I said before, I don't envy you."

Also notice that <jessicafischerqueen> recently started a forum about chess books. Wasn't Eddie Labate in the chess book business? I guess he got lonely, selling all of his children, his widdle chess books, so now he needs a forum to deal with his postpartum depression.

So Eddie Labate has not only sock puppets, but gender-changing sock puppets as well.

Ewwwwwww! That's gross Eddie Labate!>

In honor of Ed Trice, the Messiah scene from "Life of Brian (starting about 2:10):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uMJ...

Jun-28-09  Jim Bartle: PP, since I am banned from the Ed Trice forum, I will complain to you here!

Trice is claiming you have referred often to "non-denial denials." I object! I believe I was the only one going on (and on) about non-denial denials. Do not attempt to non-deny it.

Jun-28-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: <Jim> I wrote something about that in the Olaffson vs Smirnov page.
Jun-29-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  M61MG Wrestler: /////<mrs alekhine ends>\\\\\
Jun-29-09  Riverbeast: All I'm going to say further about this book is, <jessicafischerqueen> is correct..... Ed Trice most likely will just wait until talk dies down about the book, so he can find more unsuspecting suckers to sell it to.

This is why someone needs to post it on the net in its entirety, so we can continue to give it the pillorying that it deserves long after the chat about it has died down on this and other forums.

I've found enough laughable phrases in '61MG' just in the pages I've read...If we could post it all on the net, it could provide endless hours of fun and satire!

It's the only way to keep the fact that the book is a fraud fresh in people's minds...So future potential buyers can search for it on the net and see it for free (with the comments!)

And those who want to defend the book's authenticity should be free to post also.....So we can let the "court of public opinion" decide

Jun-29-09  theagenbiteofinwit: The logic behind the "this book is crap, lets share it with the world!", idea is beyond me.

Does anyone even argue that it's not a fraud now anyway?

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