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| Jul-07-09 | | PinnedPiece: <JDSE: why>
"...details of what actions Chess4Less is considering for the defamatory libel on the chessgames.com website ""...get in line" (just how cool is that comment)
Why provide grist for tort mills.
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Jul-07-09
 | | chancho: <hackmate: People (I forget who) said there was no way for Fischer to make this huge book in only a couple of years, especially when not in the best of health, yet supposedly 1 person, a 1300 rated chess player, did it in only a few months?> The person who he said:
<I forgot who>, was me. <Ed Trice: <PinnedPiece> As you have often quoted, that is a "non-denial denial." I must warn you, I have been accumulating documentation, and I will embarass you the same way I embarassed Rob Mitchell. > The person who said <non-denial denial>, was my ol buddy <Jim> Now what are the odds of two people who both support a fraud book and have a bad memory to boot? |
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| Jul-07-09 | | sharro: Trice's entire position is that he is NOT the creator of the book. But now Trice has buried himself in a mountain of lies. If Trice keeps lying, now he has to figure out how to explain where the books came from. He already tried to say they were from the bookstore but that didn't work. He could maybe say Fischer sent him some books after all, because "all he did was hook Fischer up with a reliable printer". Or maybe not. The emails on Labate's page are supposed to be spoofed. Well, maybe not all of them. Ok lets go with that. But then why wouldn't he have said that to begin with about the source of the books? Why make up the story that he bought them from the bookstore? Did he want people to think he had gotten the books from the bookstore
as a preventative measure so in case he was "spotted" selling the books, he can say that he bought them? So now he has to figure out how to explain how he really got the books, AND why he lied about getting the books from the bookstore. He also has to explain WHY he was selling them. I can just see him saying something like "Anyone who thinks I wrote a 700 page book
on chess is an IDIOT. I was acting
like Robin Hood and helping people
get their hands on this rare book"
But wait, why are we idiots, arent you
a chess master Ed? a chess master can write chess books. oops. more lies to take care of. Joshka admits Ed Trice was talking about the project in 2007, and Ed Trice gave us a photo of the 61mg
t shirt several months ago, and it
goes and on and on.
It sure is a lot of explaining to do. |
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| Jul-07-09 | | Jim Bartle: Hmmm. If Trice bought two copies from the booksellers at the World Open, he should have an invoice, shouldn't he? I would be interested in seeing that piece of paper.
If not forthcoming from the Trice end, maybe Yanez (official bookseller) could produce his numbered invoices from the event, and we'd know whether any 61s were sold. |
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| Jul-08-09 | | robmtchl: < Jim Bartle: Hmmm. If Trice bought two copies from the booksellers at the World Open, he should have an invoice, shouldn't he? I would be interested in seeing that piece of paper.
If not forthcoming from the Trice end, maybe Yanez (official bookseller) could produce his numbered invoices from the event, and we'd know whether any 61s were sold.> Problem with that is he may say he paid cash for the books and if the bookseller cannot produce a sales ticket then obviously the bookseller was trying to evade paying taxes on the sale. Watching him fabricate excuses is almost funny if he wasn't trying to destroy the reputations of honest business people in his attempt to profit off of a fraudulent book. |
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| Jul-08-09 | | rookhouse: Last year, Trice showed up at the World Open and was photographed wearing his M61MG shirt .... but didn't actually play in the tournament. This year, Trice showed up at the World Open and was video taped selling M61MG .... but didn't actually play in the tournament. Didn't he previously claim that he deliberately tanked his USCF rating to make money in the lower rated groups ..... at the World Open ?? Am I missing something here?? |
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Jul-08-09
| | chancho: <rookhouse> You're not missing anything. <Ed Trice: <IMlday> I sent my check to Billy G in early June, but my USCF membership lapsed at the end of May, unknown to me at the time. I just rejoined last week, and he still hasn't cashed my check as of yesterday. I might have to be a last minute entrant.> <The good news is, I can get there in about 50 minutes commuting> Let's say his USCF membershp expired, that is really no problem.
You just renew membership right on the playing site, as well as pay the fee to play in the event and you're in. But his name is not on the tournament lists of the world open, so it's clear he did not play there. (unless playing skittles at the site means anything) |
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| Jul-08-09 | | robmtchl: On June 16th he played in a tournament. SO it should not have been any problem for him to play at all. If he went to to Goichberg and showed him proof he sent the check. Or he could have simply written another check and stopped payment on the first in case it was lost. It is obvious that anyone at the World Open could have checked to see he was an active member. http://main.uschess.org/component/o... There may be some other reason he didn't play in the Open? |
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| Jul-08-09 | | Riverbeast: Actually, that was NOT Trice you saw in that video, selling books at the World Open. I must confess...It was ME, disguised as Trice!
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| Jul-08-09 | | timhortons: I just heard in the news that jackos estate will benefit a lot from his music,books/autobiography, movies in the years to come, so although his covered with debt right now but eventually this debt will be paid. bobby fischer estate on the other hand dont benifit from the book that uses his name and game. what can you say mr trice? |
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| Jul-08-09 | | Jim Bartle: Problem is I don't think any information about Fischer's estate, or even who his heirs are, has been made public. So we just don't know. Or am I missing something? |
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Jul-09-09
| | chancho: <Riverbeast> LMAO! |
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| Jul-12-09 | | robmtchl: Anyone heard from Trice since I reported him to Daniel Freeman and got his posts pulled? |
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| Jul-12-09 | | capatal: <robmtchl: Anyone heard from Trice since I reported him to Daniel Freeman and got his posts pulled?>
Someone looking like Trice was seen recently, skedaddling in a van loaded with books, mumbling something about,<"Sell them! I can't even give them away!"> |
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| Jul-13-09 | | PinnedPiece: <robmtchl: Anyone heard from Trice since I reported him to Daniel Freeman and got his posts pulled?> Totally understandable.
You can bet *I* would be in a funk... going 0 for 3 in important at bats --all in one weekend: Proven to be disseminating untrue statements about who is selling a book, mistaking the real identity of a certain annoying kibitzer, and finally, not getting my books sold. Aquamarine might not be deep enough blue to describe my resulting mood. . |
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| Jul-14-09 | | JonDSouzaEva: Just in case anyone is any doubt about the status of the Gothic Chess patent, here is a screen shot of the US Patent Office website's page on it:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b... |
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| Jul-14-09 | | Jim Bartle: Great work, Sherlock! Devastating. |
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Jul-14-09
| | chancho: Once Fischer refused to meet with Trice, the whole Gothic gig went kabluey. Everything said by Trice after that debacle is just one giant pile of doggy doo doo. |
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| Jul-14-09 | | whiskeyrebel: The thing is, if he had spent half the time applying himself in an honest way to a chess project he'd probably do alright. It's easy to sucker chessplayers in the short term, but once they suspect a promoter or organizer they back away and it's almost impossible to lure them back. Of course, there is the gullible few who never wise up, but they don't really influence the mainstream. |
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| Jul-14-09 | | PinnedPiece: <whiskeyrebel> I was no part of this game when Ed Trice got so angry with you, and you became part of his voodoo pincushion page--which I have seen screen captured on Labate's site. I missed what set Trice off, but few people have expressed as sympathetic a view of the guy as you have. I don't even give him any slack these days. What the heck did you do back then? |
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| Jul-14-09 | | whiskeyrebel: Yow! I didn't mean to come across as sympathetic to Trice. Yucko. I meant to point out that the guy pee's in his own pocket with his sleazy way of doing business. After he posted my picture and attempted to ridicule me (along with others) I would never forgive him. I'm not sure why he singled me out, because I don't comment all that often, although I read this forum daily and have done so since its inception at the Mrs. Alekhine page. Believe me, as a musician (which he pointed out in his attack) I have no sympathy whatsoever for bootleggers. I have met several musicians who seek them out and destroy their wares whenever they see them. Too bad Fischer doesn't have a relative in the U.S. to look out for his interests in a similar way. I hope this clarifies things. |
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| Jul-15-09 | | rookhouse: <JonDSouzaEva: Just in case anyone is any doubt about the status of the Gothic Chess patent, here is a screen shot of the US Patent Office website's page on it: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b...; Hypothetically speaking, what would it take to obtain an expired patent like this? Just curious. |
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| Jul-15-09 | | JonDSouzaEva: <rookhouse> I spoke to a lady at the patent office about that and she said that there wasn't any way for anyone to claim the patent - it's expired and open for anyone whatsoever to use without having to ask for permission or pay money to the person who who originally filed it. |
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| Jul-15-09 | | PinnedPiece: <it's expired and open for anyone whatsoever to use without having to ask for permission or pay money to the person who who originally filed it.>I don't see Trice on the form, or Gothic chess. Sure this is his? If so, wonder if this info is useful to <MOM> ? |
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| Jul-16-09 | | MageOfMaple: I've known it's been expired for a while now. Doesn't really matter, the patent had no value anyway. Ed was smart to save the $100 rather than pay the maintenance fees. |
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