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Jul-31-09
 | | chancho: <Ed Trice: PinnedPiece> <You have demonstrated that you are nothing but a biased fool, easily misled by claims made by others, without proof.> Only in Trice world would the evidence against him be "without proof" <I have newspaper articles backing up my statements. I have reporters double- and triple-checking the facts.> Newspaper articles? It's only one, uno. And it's the Philadelphia Inquirer, as Trice keeps using that link ad nauseam. Trice fooled both the Reporter and Susan Polgar. <Yet look who you side with - Rob Mitchell, a man who tried to use me to bail him at least part of the way out of his $57,000 debt. Ed Labate, on the run now, dodging criminal charges based on his fake civil complaint that will hound him the rest of his days.> Trice keeps using this argument, but ask yourself: If Titus Keingham is really owed all that money, then why hasn't he sued the bejeesus out of Rob Mitchell? It's been three years, and Keingham seems to be happy as he hasn't undertaken any legal action. Trice's arguments, just don't make any sense. And Ed Labate running? Yeah, from Alabama to Ohio probably talking with his Lawyer about all the libel that Trice has been spewing at him. <You actually believe I would somehow be involved in a deal with people involving exchanges well in excess of perhaps tens of thousands of dollars, yet none of these people can show me a contract with my signature on it. All you "see" is text on a website, and that is "iron clad" proof.> Considering all the many lies spewed by Trice, can anyone be blamed for believing other sources? <Yet I provided strong documentation for my claims, with signatures such as Anatoly Karpov and Susan Polgar, both of whom had access to the funding information, and you have no comment. This was reported by a third party, The Philadelphia Inquirer, and you have no comment.> Strong documentation. Bwahahahaha. If it is that strong, why doesn't anyone (other than Trice) believe it? <People all over the world responded to the poll about the book that somebody else on here created, and once things didn't go their way, they made all forms of excuses. Never did they say the poll was "crooked" when it was 16-1 in their favor. But now that it is in a very large lead against their view, they can't bear to deal with the results.> The poll was mentioned by <augalv> when Trice was out of the site for almost three weeks, but his alter ego <hackmate> found out about the poll on the very first day, yet Trice knows all about the 16-1 vote ratio of the first day. And as some people have already stated, it appears like that poll was manipulated big time. <International Master Lawrence Day, has the book, studied it, reviewed it, believes Bobby Fischer wrote it. Yet someone who can't even discover "GeneM" is from "castlelong" by using google can overturn Day's analysis by merely typing something here on chessgames.com.> So what? Grandmasters like Seirawan, Evans, and International Masters like Saidy, and Silman think the book is a hoax. And they are just as qualified as Day. And Day was convinced of the book before he reviewed it, so there could be a hidden bias there. <Wow, I am in awe of your incredible mind.> Typical Trice. He gets angry when people don't believe his bs, and lashes out. <It contains more sand than the Sahara, yet it is as small as a pea. You will become the punchline to that riddle.> Just like his sockpuppet <hackmate> who said to someone who disagreed with him that they had a low mental capacity. This coming from a guy who lost a chessgame to someone rated 1078. <Die screaming>
Kind of sick to say the above to someone, but it's Ed Trice. What else is new? |
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| Jul-31-09 | | PinnedPiece: <Ed Trice: Die screaming> Yes, I'm with you there, but Dylan Thomas said it so much better: "Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light."
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| Jul-31-09 | | JustToClarify: Jim Bartle:
This is the entire part of the article which discussed Ed Trice and the $15,000,000 he claimed to have. To verify this, I posted a link to the article in question from the web archive above the part I quoted. You can follow this link yourself to verify this is the entire part that talks about Ed Trice: http://web.archive.org/web/20080129... You can, of course, also read a scan Trice made of this article in the newspaper which Trice is showing everyone as "iron clad proof" of the imaginary $15,000,000 existing: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KQ8DMAfZC... Note that this is a continuation of a front-page article posted that day (the entire article can be seen at the link I provided) The text is the same. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | Jim Bartle: Thanks, JTC. Absolutely NO claim by the writer that the $15M exists. Only reporting Trice's claim, and a vague comment by Susan Polgar that "The money is there." |
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| Jul-31-09 | | JustToClarify: To be fair to Ed Trice, when he says "articles", he means it: There were all of TWO articles in the press that mentioned this $15 million he claimed to have. Well, it's $14 million in the other article, but, hey, let's not have facts get in the way of a good Trice lie. The other article can be seen here:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/1029200... And the entire part talking about Trice:
<WOULD you believe in a 12-game match of a chess variant between Bobby Fischer and Anatoly Karpov in the Philippines?Avid amateur Ed Trice does, and he says he put together a $14 million prize fund to make it happen. Trice, who got interested in chess at Drexel University two decades ago, devised "Gothic Chess" using a 10-by-8-square board and two new pieces. Jose Capablanca proposed a similar idea, but Trice said he proved via computer that White has a forced win in Capa's faulty version. In March, Trice got Karpov to sign an informal agreement to play Bobby, with $10 million for the winner. In June, Trice visited Iceland and met with Fischer's longtime friend Fridrik Olafsson to get Bobby's consent. They offered Fischer a $20,000 check just to talk. But Bobby insisted on cash, and no meeting was held. Now he's asking for $50,000 to talk. But Fischer is fascinated with Gothic Chess, Trice said, and indicated he'd be interested in playing Karpov in the Manila area. Now Trice is waiting for Fischer to choose a hotel. Does he really believe this will happen? "I wouldn't be wasting my effort if I didn't," he told me.> (The article, at this point, starts talking about bridge) Just like the Philly.com article, this article shows no proof of the $15 million, I mean $14 million existing except for Trice's claim. This second article actually weakens Trice's case, since it shows that Trice was not consistent about the quantity of imaginary money the tournament had. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | Mr. President: Dear chessfriends,
you can trust <ET>. He is man of honour. A $15 million deposit is still here, stored in a bank vault. Yours faithfully
Mr. President
United Mars Colonies |
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Jul-31-09
 | | chancho: Would Fischer have been that freaking dumb to play in the Philippines, considering that the US has an extradition treaty with them?
Don't think so.
http://www.lawphil.net/internationa... The fact that Fischer was a wanted fugitive, the long arm of the law would have surely caught him. It may also be the reason that Trice did no mention that article... |
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| Jul-31-09 | | Jim Bartle: <In March, Trice got Karpov to sign an informal agreement to play Bobby, with $10 million for the winner.> So Soltis in the NY Post calls it an "informal agreement." Not exactly the contract to play that Trice has been braying about. |
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Jul-31-09
 | | chancho: <Jim> Informal as in: <This is not a contract. This is an informal acknowledgement of proposed match parameters.> as shown in the youtube video. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | Pyke: Sorry guys, for being slightly off-topic. This is from Ray Keenes page: <Jul-30-09
Ed Trice: Does anyone know, is there any book that contains a complete history of World Champions, with some of the key games of their respective World Championship Matches, that shows continuity through the debacle of 1993? Something that covers Steinitz to the present?
Thanks in advance.
Jul-30-09
ray keene: the closest thing may be the history of the world championship on this site! i doubt if books have caught up yet <Ed Trice: Much appreciated! Sounds like what I have been trying to hunt down. >> Why do I smell another book project by Trice? |
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| Jul-31-09 | | Jim Bartle: Nothing wrong with a book, as long as the name of the true author is on the cover. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | Jim Bartle: At this moment there are 25 posts on the last page of the Ed Trice chessforum. 19 are written by Ed Trice. I would guess by number of words, 90% come from Ed Trice. Perhaps it should be re-named the Ed Trice monologue. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | danfreely: Yup. Uh huh. Trice is pathetic.
Almost as pathetic as this army of people who are obcessed with his every word. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | Jim Bartle: Guilty as charged. But it's fun, cathartic. |
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Jul-31-09
 | | chancho: <danfreely> the guy whose posts are all about Trice who according to freely, rescued his cat from a tree. Classic sock puppet. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | PinnedPiece: <danfreely: all about Ed Trice> Join the club. We're all actually waiting here for an expected announcement soon by one of Fischer's close friends, relatives, or wife that will reveal some totally mind-blowing news about M61MG. In the meantime, just like you, all we have is Ed. <chancho> do you get the feeling that <Ed Trice> as a young boy ran across busy freeways for the thrill of it? Child is father to the man.
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| Aug-01-09 | | JonDSouzaEva: I don't know what to make of you <PinnedPiece>. My instincts tell me not to trust you, you have this strange Trice-like quality to you. |
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| Aug-01-09 | | danfreely: <PinnedPiece: Child is father to the man> And the triangle is father to the geometer. That's some deep $@#%, <PeePee>. |
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| Aug-01-09 | | PinnedPiece: <JDSE: you have this strange Trice-like quality to you.> I didn't run across freeways when I was a kid, but I did ride like a fool on a Honda motorcycle in H.S....nearly as bad. |
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Aug-01-09
 | | chancho: <PinnedPiece> Well you did say you were 60 years old, and from Texas. So unless Trice has an age fetish, and dreams of becoming a Cowboy from old El Paso, I believe you. |
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| Aug-01-09 | | PinnedPiece: <chancho> I interpret <JDSE> comment not as: <PPII>=<ET> but rather:
<ET> = ~Trustworthy = <PPII> (~ means "not")
Although who cares whether I am trustworthy or not, as an unidentified nobody on an internet chat forum. I find & present relevant material, discuss my interpretation, draw conclusions. Trust has little to do with it. When/if it does, stand by to be fooled. You can become a <joshka> type. Trust is exactly what <ET> demands. I don't. Ah well.
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Aug-01-09
 | | chancho: <PinnedPiece> I dig it. You are only following the evidence wherever it may lead, and you wont let any bias enter into it. So I take it you and Trice may yet have a sitdown at a beer summit, both holding a copy of M61MG, and laughing it up heartily. What a revolting development that is. :-)) |
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| Aug-01-09 | | JonDSouzaEva: <PinnedPiece> No, I still have a sneaking suspicion that you are a Trice sock puppet. Would you be willing to talk to me on the phone to allay my fears? |
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Aug-01-09
 | | chancho: I heard that Trice had an imaginary argument with an imaginary character named John Cartaphilus at his Gothic crumbum joint, and come to think of it, <PinnedPiece> just went thru an argument with Ed Trice. If this turned out to be another imaginary show to deceive us all in this forum, then Trice really, really, needs to see a shrink pronto. |
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Aug-01-09
 | | chancho: But looking at <PinnedPiece>'s contributions to this site, (since he first posted in 2007) there is no mention from him about Trice's Gothic chess, Ed Trice, nada, until 2009, when he first started investigating whether M61MG was a hoax or not. Either Trice has the patience of a sloth climbing a tree, or <PinnedPiece> is another individual. |
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