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Jul-25-09
 | | Phony Benoni: I looked it up in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unassi... Almost always, it was a 2B or SS pulling it off, in exactly the scenario mentioned. The two exceptions were first basemen who ran over and touched second themselves. Apparently, they caught a line drive moving to their right, tagged the runner from first, and second base was on the way to the dugout anyway. |
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Jul-25-09
| | Phony Benoni: For the sake of completeness, here are the four homes in a game guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o... |
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Jul-25-09
| | Phony Benoni: <A.G Argent> Taking a quick look at his stats, you have to wonder if he's another player with exaggerated Colorado numbers. But I take it he'll play left in place of Duncan, which looks like an improvement. I don't know much about the Cardinals' situation, but from the standings it looks like they're in a dogfight and decided they had a chance this year with a little extra help now. |
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| Jul-25-09 | | Jim Bartle: When was the last time (OK, second-to-last time) a player joined his new team by taking the train? I see Holliday got off to a blazing start last night. A's fans (I mean, the A's fan) must be livid, as he wasn't hitting at all for them. Apparently this guy Wallace they got in the trade is supposed to be a real prospect, so we'll have to wait and see. (If he turns out to be another Bagwell, it's a bad trade for the Cards.) Plus he's a local guy, from around Napa. Here's some comment from the SF Chronicle's Bruce Jenkins: Holliday is simply a perfect acquisition for the St. Louis Cardinals, making them a clear favorite in the NL Central. He leaves the most depressing scene in major-league baseball, the Coliseum in Oakland, for America's best baseball town. Although he stands to become a free agent at season's end, St. Louis is a place he'll strongly consider for a long-term contract. Albert Pujols can't believe his good fortune. Pitchers won't stop avoiding him (Pujols has been walked intentionally 34 times, 21 more than anyone else), but Holliday brings a much-needed threat to the cleanup spot. Having long questioned the Cardinals' commitment to winning, Pujols might feel differently now. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic... |
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Jul-25-09
| | Phony Benoni: <Game of the Day>: July 25, 1959 http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... Not a good day for Skowron. He was having an excellent year, but was playing for the first time in two weeks after hurting his back. After the ninth inning, he was out for the year. Boris Badenov was questioned, but released. <Player of the Day>
<Whitey Lockman>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey...
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...
http://www.baseball-reference.com/p... |
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| Jul-25-09 | | Jim Bartle: What's with Kaline in centerfield?
It was dizzying to this eight-year-old when the Giants came to SF in 1958. Whitey Lockman was on the team, the third string first baseman behind Orlando Cepeda and Bill White. (The Giants had so many good players then, both young and old. Probably why they gave so many away so cheap.) Lockman didn't play that much and wasn't that good when he did, so I thought he was just a mediocre ballplayer. It wasn't until years later he'd been an important part of the NY Giants of the 50s. |
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Jul-25-09
| | Phony Benoni: Kaline in centerfield seems to have been a Jimmie Dykes brainstorm. Harvey Kuenn, the regular shortstop for many years, had spent the entire 1958 season in cetnerfield and started there in 1959 as well. However, the Tigers fired their manager after a 2-15 start, brought in Dykes, and he switched Kaline and Kuenn defensively. |
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| Jul-25-09 | | Jim Bartle: The oddest position switch I can remember is the Baltimore infield in 1982. Weaver was playing rookie Ripken at third, Sakata at short, and Dauer at second. Then he switched them all, moving Ripken to short, Sakata to second, and Dauer to third, and it worked all around. It was just so strange in that it wasn't done to get anybody new into the lineup, just moved people around. And nobody had considered that a big guy like Ripken could play shortstop. |
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Jul-25-09
 | | chancho: I still get disgusted with (although not as bad since the Red Sox broke the 87 year jinx) game 6 of the 1986 World Series when the Sox went down in flames. |
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Jul-25-09
| | Phony Benoni: <Chancho> That was shattering. But after what they did to Donnie Moore and the Angels in the League Championship Series, did they have much right to complain? So was that the most shattering moment in World Series history? Kirk Gibson's home run against Eckersley comes to mind. And here's one from an older time: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... If Mickey Owen holds on to that third strike in the ninth inning, the series is tied 2-2. Instead, the Yankees wrapped things up the next day. |
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| Jul-25-09 | | Jim Bartle: If by shattering we mean crushing to the losing team, I nominate Willie Davis' three errors in one inning in game two of the 66 Series. Davis was a fine outfielder, at that time probably the fastest man in the majors. Seemed his breakdown made the Dodgers (pitchers excepted--they were still good) wonder what else would go wrong. They only scored two runs in the whole series, both in the first game. Carbo's and Fisk's homers in 75 might have turned the tide against most teams, but not the Reds. |
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Jul-26-09
 | | WannaBe: Ah, the famous (broadcast) line:
Two and two to Harvey Kuenn...
And the rest, is history!! :-)
It sucks to lose a game when you pitched an one-hitter, and the other dude, some Jewish guy, throws a <NO-HITTER>!! An old time Dodgers joke/annecdote (sp?), some reporter told Big D (Drysdale) that Sandy just pitched a no-hitter, and Don asked: "Did we win?" |
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Jul-26-09
| | Phony Benoni: <Game of the Day>: July 26, 1975 http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... <Player of the Day>: <HOYT WILHELM>
http://bioproj.sabr.org/bioproj.cfm...
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...
http://www.baseball-reference.com/p... |
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| Jul-26-09 | | Jim Bartle: Wilhelm was ranked #27 by Bill James, ahead of a lot of pretty good pitchers. |
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Jul-26-09
| | Phony Benoni: I never realized before how effective he was in the 1960s. And who else could get traded for both Whitey Lockman and Mickey Rivers? |
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| Jul-26-09 | | Jim Bartle: Good point!
Can't have many bad seasons and still have a lifetime 2.52 ERA. |
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Jul-26-09
| | Phony Benoni: I looked up the pitchers with the best career ERAs. Most came from the pre-1920 dead ball era, but of those active only after 1950 Wilhelm comes second to Mariano Rivera. Whitey Ford seems to be the best starting pitcher in this category, just ahead of Koufax. By the way, with all the hoopla about Rickey Henderson and Jim Rice getting into the HOF, let's not forget Joe Gordon: http://bioproj.sabr.org/bioproj.cfm... I'm really enjoying these SABR biographies. |
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| Jul-26-09 | | Jim Bartle: Koufax is a triply (is that a word?) good example of how lifetime ERA can be deceiving. His is particularly good because he never had the declining years most great pitchers do, sending their lifetime number toward or above 3.00. But it's higher than we remember because he wasn't great in the beginning of his career. And it's also higher because for three years his home field was the LA Coliseum, which had a big screen for a left-field wall, located about fifty feet behind the infield. Death to lefthanders. In those years he was outstanding on the road but got "shelled" at home. Of course Koufax's prime only lasted five years, compared to Clemens, Maddux, Carlton, etc. with fifteen or more, or Wilhelm with fifty or whatever. |
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| Jul-26-09 | | A.G. Argent: Jim, and what of the broadcasters inducted today? Tony Kubek and Nick Peters. I plead woeful ignorance of Nick Peters before I just today read about him. 47 years of covering the Giants?! Forty-seven years. One guy broadcasting with one team for that long. Amazing. He musta been pretty good. |
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| Jul-26-09 | | Jim Bartle: Just checked—Peters wrote for the Sacramento Bee. Have to admit I have never heard of him. The really well-known writer on the Giants was Bob Stevens of the Chronicle, who I believe is already in the HOF. The media people most associated with the Giants in the Bay Area are the broadcasters Lon Simmons and Hank Greenwald. Russ Hodges as well, but he retired after too many years in SF. |
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| Jul-26-09 | | Travis Bickle: <Phony Benoni> I thank you from the bottom of my heart your Tigers pounded them bums the white sox, (What the hell is a sox??) 3 straight games! Thanks again. ; P |
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Jul-26-09
| | Phony Benoni: <Travis Bickle> Don't get too excited yet; there's one more game tonight. Besides, the Pale Hose have Friends in High Places. |
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| Jul-26-09 | | Travis Bickle: Get the brooms out! LOL |
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| Jul-26-09 | | Travis Bickle: <Jim Bartle> Before you know it Singletary will be scrimmaging his 49ers and here in Chi-town Lovie his Bears! |
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| Jul-26-09 | | playground player: <Jim Bartle> Koufax's prime didn't last that long--but oh, what a prime it was. Think of Ron Guidry in 1978, or Dwight Gooden in 1985. Koufax was like that for five years running. Great unsung, practically forgotten relief pitcher of the 1960s--Dick Radatz of the Boston Red Sox. "The Monster." Ou sont las nieges d'antan?--Francois Villon (baseball affiliation unknown) |
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