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| Mar-12-08 | | AgentRgent: <MarkThornton> I suspect you may already have found this, but it looks like you missed a win in your game vs. Ross with 24...Rxd1+. It looks like 24...Qc5+ wins (e.g. 24...Qc5+ 25. Kf1 Rxd1+ 26. Rxd1 c3! and White must lose the e5 Bishop 27. Bxc3 Qxc3 28. Qxc3 Rxc3). |
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| Mar-12-08 | | MarkThornton: <AgentRgent: <MarkThornton> I suspect you may already have found this, but it looks like you missed a win in your game vs. Ross with 24...Rxd1+. It looks like 24...Qc5+ wins (e.g. 24...Qc5+ 25. Kf1 Rxd1+ 26. Rxd1 c3! and White must lose the e5 Bishop 27. Bxc3 Qxc3 28. Qxc3 Rxc3).> Thanks for this. You're not alone in pointing this out to me! Cheers, Mark |
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| Mar-17-08 | | notyetagm: Corrected PGN:
[Event "League Match"]
[Site "Cambridge, England"]
[Date "2007.12.03"]
[Board "1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[White "Ross, Chris N"]
[Black "Thornton, Mark H"]
[WhiteElo "2144"]
[BlackElo "2235"]
1.d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. b3 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 Be7 7. Bg2 c6 8. 0-0 d5 9. Ne5 Nfd7 10. Nxd7 Nxd7 11. Bc3 0-0 12. Nd2 f5
13. Rc1 Rc8 14. Bb2 Bd6 15. Nf3 Qe7 16. Qd2 Nf6 17. Ne5 Ne4 18. Qe3 c5 19. f3 Nf6 20. Qd2 cxd4 21. Bxd4 Bxe5 22. Bxe5 dxc4 23. Rfd1 Rfd8 24. Qb2 Rxd1+ 25. Rxd1 Nd5 26. bxc4 Ne3 27. Rc1 Nxc4 28. Qd4 Nxe5 29. Rxc8+ Bxc8 30. Qxe5 Qc5+ 31. Qxc5 bxc5 32. Kf2 Kf7 33. f4 Ke7 34. Ke3 Kd6 35. Kd2 Ba6 36. e4 Bb7 37. e5+ Kc7 38. Bf1 Bd5 39. a3 Kb6 40. Kc3 Ba2 41. Kb2 Bd5 42. Kc3 Ba2 43. Kb2 Bd5 1/2-1/2 |
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| Mar-17-08 | | notyetagm: <AgentRgent: <MarkThornton> I suspect you may already have found this, but it looks like you missed a win in your game vs. Ross with 24...Rxd1+. It looks like 24...Qc5+ wins> (VAR) Position after 24 ... ♕e7-c5+! 
click for larger view<(e.g. 24...Qc5+ 25. Kf1 Rxd1+ 26. Rxd1 c3!> 
click for larger view<and White must lose the e5 Bishop 27. Bxc3 Qxc3 28. Qxc3 Rxc3).> 
click for larger viewA very instructive tactical sequence. 24 ... ♕e7-c5+! gains control of the c3-square <WITH TEMPO> to support an upcoming <INTERFERENCE> on that square. 25 ... ♖d8x♖d1+ 26 ♖c1x♖d1 <DEFLECTS> the White c1-rook from the defense of the c3-square. And then 26 ... c4-c3! closes off the <LINE OF LIFE-GIVING FORCE> from the White b2-queen to the <LOOSE> White e5-bishop, <GAINING TIME> on the White b2-queen to boot (<INTERFERENCE>). Dr. Nunn says that <Loose Pieces Drop Off - LPDO>. Here the <LOOSE> White e5-bishop and the <EXPOSED> White g1-king are tactical warning indicators that the White e5-bishop might be in trouble. This bishop does not drop off to a <QUEEN FORK WITH CHECK> but rather the exposed White king gives Black a <TEMPO> that he is able to use to create the conditions for the <INTERFERENCE> tactic. 24 ... ♕e7-c5+! is a great example of a <FORK> in which one tactical target is a <PIECE> (White g1-king) while the other tactical target is a <SQUARE> (c3-square). |
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| Mar-19-08 | | black knight c6: Assuming notyetagm's first diagram with right, could someone please put me out of my misery and tell me what's so wrong with [24. ... Qc5+] 25. Bd4 ? I must be blind but I can't see how this simple move doesn't completely save white's position. Perhaps notyetagm's diagram is wrong? |
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| Mar-19-08 | | Karpova: <black knight c6>
25.Bd4 fails to 25...c3 [see diagram]
click for larger viewe.g. 25.Bd4 c3 26.Bxc5 cxb2 27.Rxd8+ Rxd8 28.Rb1 bxc5 [see diagram]
click for larger view |
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| Mar-19-08 | | black knight c6: Thanks Karpova, I'm pretty sure I looked at c3 again but I can't have looked nearly enough. Interesting combination for that game then! |
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| Mar-29-08 | | notyetagm: <Karpova: <black knight c6>
25.Bd4 fails to 25...c3 [see diagram]
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e.g. 25.Bd4 c3 26.Bxc5 cxb2 27.Rxd8+ Rxd8>
(VAR) Position after 27 ... ♖c8x♖d8
click for larger viewAnd now the problem is clear: White has two pieces (White c5-bishop, c1-rook) <EN PRISE> to Black pawns plus the Black b2-pawn is threatening to promote on both the b1- and c1-squares. |
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| Jun-13-08 | | notyetagm: A great Black Queen's Indian win. |
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| Jul-17-08 | | Hugin: I like to call this game the Trojan Horse
18..Ne4 20..Nc5 and 22..Nb3 tied up ouer opponent so much, he could hardly move Other important moves was the idea with 17..f4 24..Bc4 and 25...Qf7 27..Qf7 keeping f-line and G8 -A2 diagonal covered. But the Knight standing on b3 really got him.. |
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| Aug-11-08 | | classF: J Dufek vs A Nickel, 2007 GM Nickel played 13...Ba3, the move I wanted to play. |
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| Jan-15-09 | | WhiteRook48: hmm. Great game by the world. |
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| Jan-25-09 | | WhiteRook48: can't they get more technology than that dancing Rook? |
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Jan-30-09
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| Jan-30-09 | | Whack8888: A quick Question: The 12...f5 was orgainlly an ideas by Karpov, right? If I remember correctly, it was somewhat rare when we played it but either Karpov had some analysis or maybe even a game or something with it. Werle - Hou Yifan Corus 2009 is following the opening but Hou Yifan changed with 13...Bd6 instead of the World's 13...Rc8. The game is going on as I post this, so we will just have to wait and see how it all turns out! |
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| Jan-30-09 | | whiteshark: <Whack8888: A quick Question: The 12...f5 was originally an ideas by Karpov, right?> I'm not that sure about it... Games Like Y Shulman vs The World, 2007
but at least we left the well trodden, drawish path of 12...c5. |
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| Jan-30-09 | | Whack8888: <Whiteshark> Thanks for the clarification, I had only vague recollections so it is entirely possible they are completely wrong. |
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| Jan-30-09 | | classF: <Whack8888>
This might be the first game with 12...f5:
[Site "Daugavpils"]
[Date "1978.??.??"]
[White "Sturua,Zurab "]
[Black "Kudriashov "]
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. b3 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 Be7 7. Bg2 O-O 8. O-O d5 9. Ne5 c6 10. Bc3 Nbd7 11. Nxd7 Nxd7 12. Nd2 f5 13. Rc1 Qe8 14. Re1 Nf6 15. Bb2 Bd6 16. f3 Qg6 17. e4 Bb4 18. e5 Nd7 19. f4 Rac8 20. a3 Be7 21. b4 Rfd8 22. b5 Bb7 23. Qa4 a6 24. cxd5 exd5 25. bxc6 Bxc6 26. Rxc6 Rxc6 27. Bxd5+ Re6 28. Qb3 Nf8 29. Rc1 Kh8 30. Nf3 Qh5 31. Bxe6 Nxe6 32. Kf2 Nxd4 33. Bxd4 Rxd4 34. Nxd4 Qxh2+ 35. Ke3 Bc5 36. Rxc5 Qg1+ 37. Kd3 1-0 |
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| Jan-30-09 | | Gypsy: <WhiteRook48: can't they get more technology than that dancing Rook?> Hey, I like that dancing rook! |
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| Feb-25-09 | | WhiteRook48: Oh, is that because the dancing rook is your avatar? |
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| Nov-22-09 | | The Chess Express: <LIFE Master AJ: Only 837 pages of kibitzing? I wonder how long it will take me to read all that?> LOL! |
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| Aug-13-11 | | Nullifidian: I'm surprised nobody has yet mentioned that this game is featured in the current (August 2011) issue of Chess Life. |
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| Aug-13-11 | | hms123: <Nullifidian> Here's the link to the Chess Life article (see pages 32-35): http://content.yudu.com/A1t744/Ches... |
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| Nov-09-11 | | Shams: <OCF> has some clever verse published in that article. Glad I clicked through, I somehow missed that piece... inexplicable as usually I devour Chess Life cover-to-cover... |
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| May-10-20 | | MarkThornton: I have just found this remarkable game, in which a World Champion defeated his immediate predecessor: Kramnik vs Anand, 2008. It was played not long after this game - was Anand aware of Shulman vs The World? |
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