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Fred Dewhirst Yates vs August Konrad Haida
"Haida Go Seek" (game of the day Mar-28-2005)
Marienbad (1925), Marienbad CZE, rd 6
Sicilian Defense: Pin Variation (B40)  ·  1-0
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Jan-27-07  beatles fan: got this one faster than most this week.
I guess the puzzle difficutly is subjective, so some days are easier, regardless of the day of the week
Jan-27-07  chessmoron: Hmm...I think there's a little complex line that White will get a free queen, take a look: 24. Nf8+! Kc7 25. Qa5+ Kb8 26. Qxd8.
Jan-27-07
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  goldfarbdj: I spent a bunch of time initially looking at Bxe4 and Nxh7 (noticing for instance that the knight on h7 can't be taken) before hitting on Rxe4 as the move. Like dzechiel, I found Bc4+ and Qh6+, but didn't analyze everything out completely. I did notice 21. ... Ng7 22. Qxh7 Ke8 (forced) 23. Qg8+ Kd7 24. Rd1+.

What's white's best after 20. ... Kg7? Maybe 21. Qxh7+ Kf6 22. Qh4?

Jan-27-07  LIFE Master AJ: I got the solution almost instantly, but I forced myself to go back and analyze for close to five minutes.

At first 25...Ke7 looks like a mistake, (I still think it was a minor flub); until you notice 25...Kc7; 26.Qa5+.

Jan-27-07  Dr.Lecter: <LMAJ>I got the solution immediately as well. It wasn't as hard as I thought it looked.
Jan-27-07
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  al wazir: My move was 19. Nxh7, seemingly winning a ♙. If 19...Qd7, then 20. Nf6+ Nxf6 21. Qxf6 Rf7 22. Qxg6+ Rg7 23. Qh5, and now if 23...exd3, then 24. Re8+ wins the ♕.

Alas, after 19...Qd6 20. Bxe4 dxe4 (20...Rxh7 21. Bxd5+ cxd5 22. Rxe8+) 21. Rxe4 Rxe4 (21...Rxh7 22. Rxe8+) 22. Qxe4 Kxh7 23. Qxe8, white has only succeeded in trading a ♗ for three ♙s.

In the game as played, 24. Nf8+ Kc7 25. Qa5+ wins the ♕.

Jan-27-07  Tactic101: I quickly got it. I saw till around Nxh7+ when I convinced myself this is winning. My thought process was: "I need to deflect the rook. If I play Rxe4, he has to take with the pawn. Then I can use my bishop to give a check. A few more checks with the queen, knight and other rook and I'll be on top."
Jan-27-07  TrueBlue: not even close. I thought a line like "Rxe4 Nd6" was just as good for white as "Nh7 Bf5". So I went for the second line ...
Jan-27-07  MaxxLange: Yates opens up the can!

He is an interesting player, kind of in this class of forgotten masters, the also-ran players from the 20s and 30s who were very strong chess masters, but weaker than Capablanka and Alekhine and Lasker et al.

Jan-27-07  ianD: got it as far as Nxh7+.
hard to see anymore from the initial position

Jan-27-07  Shajmaty: <al wazir: My move was 19. Nxh7, [...]> So was mine. Saturday... too much for me, as usual.
Jan-27-07  Sibahi: YES .. I saw the key move, but was too lazy to follow t out.
Jan-27-07  ravadi: What is winning way for white after 19....Nf6?? I don't see any immediate win for white. I think it is far better than text.
Jan-27-07  Themofro: Got it! Great combination.
Jan-27-07  blair45: Computers? we don't need no stinking computers! I got it without a computer (more or less). Ref:dzechiel's comment -- it would be fun to work up a collection of games with brilliant refutations to brilliant sacs. I think it could be done. To Chess Games credit, they present these games as problems from time to time.
Jan-27-07
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  Peligroso Patzer: After White's Rook sac on move 19, Black's poor King had "No Haida Place".
Jan-27-07  Minty: <ravadi: What is winning way for white after 19....Nf6?? I don't see any immediate win for white. I think it is far better than text.>

I think white just gets a nice safe advantage after 20. Rxe7 Qxe7 21. Nxh7 Kg7 22. Nxf6 Qxf6 23. Qg3

If I were black, I'd sooner take my chances with 19... dxe4, than suffer after that.

Jan-27-07
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  kevin86: I saw this one coming! Great sacs for white-black is left virtually en prise everywhere.
Jan-27-07  Fisheremon: <Minty: <ravadi: What is winning way for white after 19....Nf6?? I don't see any immediate win for white. I think it is far better than text.>

I think white just gets a nice safe advantage after 20. Rxe7 Qxe7 21. Nxh7 Kg7 22. Nxf6 Qxf6 23. Qg3

If I were black, I'd sooner take my chances with 19... dxe4, than suffer after that.> Right, but a much better defense was 19...Nd6.

Jan-27-07  aazqua: THis is one of the easiest Saturday puzzles I've seen, but then again most of these puzzles seem pretty easy. The rook sac SCREAMS to be played. I assumed black wouldn't recapture with the pawn as it appeared completely hopeless. White's bishop instantly becomes the best piece on the board and lanes are opened all over for white's attack.
Jan-27-07  uuft: Not too difficult to spot the rook-sac. I found 21. Qh6+ more difficult to find... Okay, so I didn't! Still, looks(!) like one of the easier saturday-puzzles.
Jan-27-07  THE pawn: I got the puzzle, but in an actual game, I'm not sure I would have seen that.
Jan-27-07  Grampmaster: If I were playing, I believe I would have played 25.Rxd6+ instead of White's Nf6+ as I think it was easier for me to follow the continuation 25...Kxd6 26.Qxd8+ Rd7 27.Qf6+

It just seems to me White's pieces are now more active. Can someone please explain to an old codger like me what the likely result is to be with this variation?

Thanks.

Jan-27-07  ALEXIN: Missed. I thought 19. Nxe4 but there are defenses for black.
Jan-27-07  MORPHY MARVELLOUS: I saw Rxe4 and the continuation, but havent solved the continuation if blak plays Bf5 or Nf6 rejecting the white sacrifice.
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