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Alexander Alekhine vs Friedrich Saemisch
"Shots in the Dark" (game of the day Jan-28-2007)
Exhibition game (1923), Berlin GER, Feb-??
Sicilian Defense: Old Sicilian. General (B30)  ·  1-0


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Jun-29-13  Lykos: True agb2002.

The question is what if after

21. Ne6

black answers h6!

I think

Nxc5 bxc
Nc7 Rb8
Ne8 Bb7
f8Q+ Nxf8
Rxf8+ Kh7
Nf6+ Kg6
Rxd8 Rxd8
hxg3 gxf6
e5! fxe5
Bxe5 and White is 2p plus

Jun-29-13  mistreaver: Saturday.White to play.18.?Very Difficult?
This is a very famous game and i know it features a queen sacrifice. I think the correct move is the fantastic:
18 fxe6 and after the obvious
18... Bxg3
19 Nd5!! Wins in every variation
A) 19... Qc6
20 Ne7+ and
21 Nxc6
B) 19...Qc5
20 exf7+ Kh8
21 Ne6 Qa5
22 Bg7 mate
C) 19... Qb7
20 exf7+ Kh8
21 Ne6 Be5
22 Nxe8 and both
Nxb7 and f8Queen are threatened
D) 19... Qb8(a7)
20 Nc6 Qb7
21 Nxe8 Qa7
22 exf7+ Kf8
23 Ne6+
Time to check and see whether i missed something.
Beautiful display of chess
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  chrisowen: Biff the third believe what balls sage man 3.Be2,

docket in the pocket brings about eddy a wave tide as tie really amazing after fireworks again st,

offerby 7.Bf3 sets up theclamp 8.c4 knowledge seek o in us aka 11.b3 ie vie for one I a 11...nd7 maybe,

not best black f6 a bind I spot a dam 13.rad1 re-

inforced for line delve a6 boook 15.Kh1 network d8,

across in free be a fabled 16.f4 or nf5 murky oh to table b6 l0 win ami languid knight f5 your door,

kabbala gained room101 free 17.f5 light foilable.

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  chrisowen: Re8 or dervish 17...Be5 doesn't save him from feed,

in together 18.nf6 done for opening a path-ways 19.exf7+ sigh curious queen flittered 19...Qxf7,

angle a moot 20.Qd3 and light banked pawn for look heading shattered queen-side pawns and a bind d5 difficult to break off in ergo i instead 17...Be5 capture g3 in have great rejoinder 19.nd5 summoning

19.exf7+ all staff ie in harangues 19...Kh8 clotted,

red queen cornered off 20.nd5 wins on account of 20...Qa7 or bulldoze 20...Qb8 and ok to 21.nc6 ascents the belt queen basically defumed you saint,

bagged g3 in yet straight away apparent in light,

it victor f7 plus b6 apparel I should think d6 for,

fill circle too

Jun-29-13  cyclon: I'm not quite sure of this puzzle ( rather 'obscure' ), but let's say 18. fxe6 and best seems to be 18. -Nf6. In case of 18. -fxe6 might come 19. Nxe6 Bxg3 ( 19. -Qb8 or wherever, 20. Nd5 and White is winning ) 20. Nxc7 Ra7 21. hxg3 Rxc7 22. Nd5 Rc5 ( or 22. -Ra7/b7 23. Ne7+ Kh8 24. Rf7 curfew ) 23. Bd4 Ra5 24. Ne7+ Kh8 25. Nc6 wins the exchange with pawn up and in general better position.

Then, after 18. fxe6, if 18. -f6, comes 19. E7 ( point with this pawn move is to PREVENT Black's Queen coming to -c5 pinning the Knight on d4 ) 19. -Bxg3 ( or 19. -Re8 20. Ne6 and either winning material or mating on -g7 ) 20. Nd5 and now the BQ cannot come to -c5 for OTHER reason ( 21. exd8Q+ ). White wins.

Other BLack's Knight moves gets 19. Rxf7 with the pawn and the bind.

Then back to ( my ) main-line 18. fxe6 Nf6. White plays simply 19. exf7+ winning a pawn in the more active position. Whether Black plays 19. -Kf8/-Kxf7/-Kh8/-Qxf7, White might move calmly for example 20. Qh4 intending 21. Nd5 with a very promising game for him, but not yet with forced short-cut win. This is the best I found for both.

One more line after 18. fxe6 is that if Black plays immediately 18. -Bxg3, then White moves 19. exf7+ Kh8 20. Ne6 Q- ( or 20. -Be5 21. Nxc7 R- 22. Ne6 winning material ) 21. Nxd8 and in these interesting resulting positions ( depending with differings where Black moves his Queen on 20 th ) White clearly plays for the win. Diagram position contains probably more variations still and I wonder whether Aljechin found something else. Never knew about him.

Jun-29-13  cyclon: Quite so it went with the difference that I had White King in the diagram position for some reason in g1 and not in h1 where it should be. That doesn't change in this case the basic combinational idea of White's though.
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  kevin86: White is a queen down-but black can't save the game!
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  Marmot PFL: Seeing the board I didn't have much trouble finding 18 fe6 Bxg3 (fe6 19 Nxe6) 19 ef7+ Kh8 20 Nd5

20...Qb7 21 Ne6 Be5 22 Bxe5 de5 23 Nxd8

20...Qa7 (or 20...Qb8) 21 Nc6

Still a great blindfold achievement, especially if Alekhine was also playing other games.

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  Jimfromprovidence: If 20 Ne6?! then 20...Qb8 (where it is not under attack any more) then 21 Nd5 below.

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Sure, there is a mate in one-threat now but black handles it with 21..Bd5.

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The point of 20 Nd5 is that it offers better attacking possibilities. So after 20...Qa7, then 21 Nc6, below.

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Here you are both threatening the queen and the rook at d8; now if white captures the rook there is also a back rank mate threat black has to deal with.

Jun-29-13  Lykos: Longest variant I found:

20. Nd5 Qc5
21. Ne6 h6!
22. Nxc5 bxc
23. Nc7 Rb8
24. NeB! Bb7
25. hxg3 Bxe4
26. Rxd6 Nf8
27. Bxg7+ Kh7
28. Bxf8 Bg6
29. Rxd8 Rxd8
29. Be7

So I think Rybka was wrong, Alekhine right.

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  Calli: Neither player was blindfold. Alekhine annotates the game in My Best Games (1908-1923) and gives it as an Exhibition game played in Berlin in February, 1923.
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  whiteshark: <Calli> The German edition of My Best Games (1908-1923), game 97 says: "Freie Partie, Berlin, Februar 1923. <Beiderseits ohne Ansicht des Brettes>"

which prism translates the last part as 'On either side without a view of the board'

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  Calli: <Whiteshark> Interesting. I believe the English translation (J. Du Mont & M. E. Goldstein) was first in 1927 with the German in 1928. The original manuscript is in French, but sat around for years because no French publisher could be found. I don't think Kotov or Skinner/Verhoeven designate this as a blindfold either.
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  whiteshark: A footnote in the German book says that there's a Russian edition from 1926. - -

I think the following sums it up: "the exact conditions of this one-on-one contest were not spelled out"

Jun-29-13  vajeer: <Lykos: Longest variant I found:

20. Nd5 Qc5
21. Ne6 h6!
22. Nxc5 bxc
23. Nc7 Rb8
24. NeB! Bb7
25. hxg3 Bxe4
26. Rxd6 Nf8
27. Bxg7+ Kh7
28. Bxf8 Bg6
29. Rxd8 Rxd8
29. Be7

So I think Rybka was wrong, Alekhine right.>

In your variation, one possible variation for black could be 22...Nf8. Don't know for sure if that is better than bxc5

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  Calli: <WS> "we recently discovered a game in which they both played blindfolded' - Hearst

Except that it is in My Best Games, one of the most famous chess books of all time.

Alekhine later published Deux Cent Parties d Echecs in French. It is Best games Vol 1 plus games from the years 1924-1927. Perhaps that volume would be conclusive in answering the question.

Jun-29-13  Lykos: Vajeer:

I believe 22.Nf8
is no better. The trick with Nc7 and Ne8 could work here too.

Jun-29-13  James D Flynn: Material is equal but Black’s pieces are passively placed whereas White’s are active and ominate the centre, 18.fxe6(sacrificing the Q to take advantage of Black’s back rank weakness) Bxg3 19.exf7+ Kh8(f8 is guarded by 2 pieces and the push f8+ is supported only by 1) 20.Ne6(attacking both Q and R) Qa7 21.Nb5(Threat Bxg7#) Be5 22.Bxe5 dxe5(if Nxe5 f8+ mates) 23.Rxd7 Bxd7 24.Nxd8 Rxd8 25.f8+ Rxf8 26.Rxf8=Q#
Jun-29-13  cyclon: < Jimfromprovidence: If 20 Ne6?! then 20...Qb8 (where it is not under attack any more) then 21 Nd5 below. Sure, there is a mate in one-threat now but black handles it with 21. -Be5 > Are you sure?. NO MATTER how crazy it might seem, but 22. Bxe5 dxe5 ( what else? ) 23. Ndc7 seems to give White winning chances. It's late and I'm tired, so I haven't analyzed it fully. It would be nice to know how you save Black.
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  Jimfromprovidence: <cyclon> <Are you sure?. NO MATTER how crazy it might seem, but 22. Bxe5 dxe5 ( what else? ) 23. Ndc7 seems to give White winning chances. It's late and I'm tired, so I haven't analyzed it fully. It would be nice to know how you save Black.>

That's a great threat. I never saw it coming. Here is your position.

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White threatens 24 Ne8!, promoting his pawn. Black has 23...Rg8 in response. After 24 fxg8Q Kxg8 25 Nd5, below...

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...white has the threat of 26 Ne7+ Kh8 27 Ng5, but black escapes by the skin of his teeth with 25...Nf6.

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Jun-29-13  MostlyWatch: Instead of taking the queen, I'd say hop the knight out to get him away from the pawn, and also block the rook's file. When the pawn takes the pawn you can take the pawn with your queen. That gets her in the game and breaks up the fork danger. White has to move his queen. It doesn't win the game immediately but gets you a little breathing room.
Jun-29-13  Alien Math: <whiteshark> her find 1927, 1928 Russian editions of <Мои лучшие партии. Книга первая (1908-1923)> are <My best games. First book (1908-1923)>
Jul-30-15  ToTheDeath: This game made a big impression on me when I first saw it as a young man. Years later it still is a remarkable miniature. Black appears only a bit worse after 16...b6. To turn this into a crushing win with a queen sacrifice and a pawn promoting on f8 in only 4 more moves is what made Alekhine one of a kind.
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  whiteshark: Good find, <Alien Math>. TY
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  whiteshark: <20.Nd5!> "The point of Alekhine's combination. The combined force of the remaining pieces dominates the board, despite Black's huge material advantage. Saemisch was so terrified by the opponent's multiple threats that, to the surprise of the audience, he simple resigned! In fact all variations prove that his decision, although a bit premature, was fully justified!"

-- Kasparov

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