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|Apr-14-15|| ||Mr. V: < offramp: In the great mansion of chess Saemisch is the spirit that wanders through every room; his ghost flits from Spielmann to the time of Karpov, never fully visible. A shadow near the curtain; a puff of smoke when a door opens. A bang. A loud knock in the middle of the night...
He is like Wood Allen's <Zelig>: an apparition wandering through time and space.>|
Not so fast, Offramp. He has a home. I still remember and appreciate him and his games, if only for his unique mediocrity. After all, here we are on his page.
|Apr-14-15|| ||Mr. V: Though I should clarify I wasn't alive during his lifetime; I mean to say I appreciate his games and his place in history.|
|Sep-20-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Fritz!!|
|Sep-20-16|| ||brankat: Happy 120th Birthday!|
|Sep-20-16|| ||diagonal: Sämisch won the (unofficial) first Austrian Championship played at Vienna in 1921 (Austrian Chess Association Congress - Master Tournament), above luminaries as Euwe, Breyer, Grünfeld, or Tartakower. |
Austrian Chess Championship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austr...
|Sep-21-16|| ||whiteshark: lastest cb article on Sämisch; http://de.chessbase.com/post/noch-n...|
|Apr-13-17|| ||vermapulak: Chess program Fritz named on him ?|
|Apr-13-17|| ||Petrosianic: No, it was named after Fritz Von Erich.|
|Dec-16-17|| ||offramp: I've just noticed that Sämisch rarely played outside of Germany. He played at Karlsbad, but that was a German speaking area of Czech. He played at Copenhagen, but I bet a shedload of Danes speak German.|
A strangely insular, wraith-like figure, a fleeting memory, disappearing like cigarette smoke on a windy strand. [Could someone add that to the bio?]
|Dec-16-17|| ||JimNorCal: Maybe he was monoglot or had some other reason to avoid travel. But maybe he was not good enough to get invitations.|
|Dec-17-17|| ||offramp: I don't think he was a mongoloid.|
|Dec-22-17|| ||JimNorCal: Thinly sourced, but quite astonishing. From wiki:|
"Sämisch criticised Adolf Hitler at the closing banquet of the Madrid tournament in summer 1944. Upon returning to the German border, he was arrested and transported to a concentration camp. This was not his first transgression, since he had previously said loudly in the Luxor coffee house in Prague: 'Isn't Hitler a fool? He thinks he can win the war with Russians!' According to Grandmaster Ludek Pachman: Prague was full of Gestapo, and Sämisch had to be overheard at least at the next few tables. I asked him to speak quietly. 'You don't agree that Hitler is a fool?' was Sämisch's unconcerned retort."
|Dec-22-17|| ||MissScarlett: The whole section dates from 2015 and comes from <John Foley>: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph...|
|Feb-18-18|| ||ughaibu: Two questions: 1. who was the better smoker, Saemisch or Tal? 2. was there really a tournament called 'Pig-world'?|
|Feb-18-18|| ||Telemus: <JimNorCal: Ludek Pachman:> Pachman reported at least twice about these events in Prague and Spain. The quote from Wiki is similar to that in his booklet "Zug um Zug - Ein Leben zwischen Schach und Politik", (Freiburg, 1982), pages 19-20. Some minor differences are: |
1. instead of the closong banquet Pachman mentioned a political speech by Sämisch at the end of the tournament, and
2. instead of the German border Pachman mentioned the Spanish-French border where Sämisch was arrested.
A less precise and hence less similar description can be found in "Jetzt kann ich sprechen" (Düsseldorf, 1973), page 29.
|Feb-20-18|| ||MissScarlett: Do we have any information on what Saemisch did during the war? I doubt his chess skills were important enough to qualify him for the Gottbegnadeten list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottb...|
Come to think of it, he was just short of eighteen when WW1 broke out, so the above goes double.
|Feb-20-18|| ||Telemus: <offramp: I've just noticed that Sämisch rarely played outside of Germany. He played at Karlsbad, but that was a German speaking area of Czech. He played at Copenhagen, but I bet a shedload of Danes speak German.> Here is Sämisch in his own words on that subject:|
"Im Ausland habe ich an 42 Schachturnieren teilgenommen."
"Auf Schach-Reisen besuchte ich 1. Deutschland, 2. Dänemark, 3. Schweden, 4. Finnland, 5. Estland, 6. Lettland, 7. Litauen, 8. den Freistaat Danzig, 9. Rußland, 10. Polen, 11. die Tschechoslowakei, 12. die Slowakei, 13. Österreich, 14. Ungarn, 15. Jugoslawien, 16. die Schweiz, 17. Spanien, 18. Frankreich, 19. Belgien, 20. England und 21. Holland. Auch nach 22. Luxemburg bin ich gelangt, aber nicht als Schachspieler."
"Mein größter Kummer: daß es mir noch nicht gelungen ist, nach Italien zu gelangen."
|Feb-20-18|| ||Granny O Doul: Pachman's Prague café story also appears in his book "Checkmate in Prague".|
|Feb-21-18|| ||alexmagnus: Wait, Czechoslovakia and Slovakia were once different countries?|
|Feb-21-18|| ||whiteshark: <alexmagnus> Sämisch was right:|
The Czech part of Czechoslovakia was occupied by Germany in World War II (aka Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia), while the Slovak region became the <Slovak Republic> (1939-1945).
|Feb-21-18|| ||Telemus: <whiteshark: .. The Czech part of Czechoslovakia was occupied by Germany in World War II (aka Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia)> No, this happened already before WWII.|
I find the dates, when Hitler increased his territory, easy to remember, because they happened in intervals of roughly sixth months:
March 1938 / Austria
September - October 1938 / Sudetenland
March 1939 / Bohemia and Moravia
September 1939 / Poland (begin of WWII)
|Feb-21-18|| ||Telemus: <Granny O Doul> Thank you for this hint. I wonder if "Checkmate in Prague" is an independent book, or if it is related to "Jetzt kann ich sprechen" (this book has a letter instead of a foreword and two parts with 30 chapters).|
|Feb-21-18|| ||whiteshark: <No, this happened already before WWII.> That's right, just as my <while the Slovak region became the <Slovak Republic> (1939-1945).>|
--> 14. March 1939 – 21. July 1939: Slowakischer Staat (slowakisch Slovenský štát)
--> 21. July 1939 – 8. May 1945: Slowakische Republik (slowakisch Slovenská republika)
|Feb-21-18|| ||Telemus: <whiteshark> Obviously a misunderstanding. Sorry!|
|Feb-21-18|| ||Telemus: WW I: Assured is that Sämisch was a soldier, that he was wounded and that three fingers of his right hand remained stiff. Details vary depending on the source.|
WW II: Ludwig Rellstab reported that Sämisch was released from service because of being an invalid and by age.
So he could get the travel permit to Spain in the autumn of 1943. He was against the Nazis, but first they didn't take him seriously. However, in 1944 he was indicted before a court in Leipzig (Volksgericht) and acquitted for lack of evidence. (From a booklet on the Friedrich-Sämisch-Gedächtnisturnier 1978)
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