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|Sep-02-11|| ||scormus: Anand was always, IMO, a gentleman. A rogue would have tried 6 ... Qe7 and hoped for 7 Qb5+, attacking the Bf5.|
|Sep-02-11|| ||scormus: And as a gentleman he would have taken his lumps, even when he lost because he made a "typo"|
|Sep-05-11|| ||MaczynskiPratten: See Anand's amusing explanation of why he resigned, at the start of page 3 (as well as the background to the debacle as explained on page 1)|
|Sep-05-11|| ||perfidious: <MaczynskiPratten> That's priceless.|
|Sep-08-11|| ||scormus: <MaczynskiPratten: See Anand's amusing explanation of why he resigned>|
Thanks! Ah yes, Oh dear,. A very understandable choice he made to resign and get out fast. I dont blame him at all, I would have done the same.
But the explanation? I would never have admitted I blindly followed Informator (OK I never saw Informator, more like an outdated MCO).
I would have cited what actually DID happen to me once .... as I made my 4th or 5th move my mind was wandering (as it does) to a different variation where some other move is played. Then I looked at the board in horror and saw I actually played that other move :O
In my game the unintended move wasnt immediately losing so I played on and tried to bluff it out, pretending it was a prepared new move. Got away with it too ;)
|Nov-28-11|| ||Reisswolf: <hedgeh0g: Ah...<<the blunder variation of the Petrov>>.>|
Maybe it's because I haven't had enough sleep in the last several days, but I can't stop laughing at that description.
|May-08-12|| ||solskytz: I can see Capablanca playing on for 46 moves, later getting a couple of pawns as some compensation for the piece, and then... |
but of course, not a pleasant situation to find oneself in
|Jun-20-12|| ||KKsystem: The world chess champion is renowned for his lightning speed in chess not only in his wins but also in his losses it seems LOL!|
|Sep-02-12|| ||Dionysius1: Could someone just clarify this game for me? I don't get how B has to lose a piece. If 6...Qe7 then 7 d3 Nc5 8 Qb5+ Bd7. Or 7 Nd5 Qe1 and there's only the Q attacking the N on e4 which is defended by the bishop.|
|Dec-11-12|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <Dionysius1>: If <6. ... Qe7>, White plays <7. Nd5> < >.|
Anand supposedly went into the ultra-dubious (viz., totally losing) <5. ... Bf5> line based on having seen Miles vs Christiansen, 1987 in Informantor and (sans analysis) having concluded it was a good way to equalize. In doing so, there were two keys points the future World Champion failed to take into account: (1) never play a line without analyzing it (now possible even for someone as lazy as myself thanks to engines); and (2) the Miles-Christiansen game was a pre-arranged draw.
In the 1987 game, Miles saw the refutation with <6. Qe2> (and polished the e2 square with his finger for a length of time to make sure Christiansen would realize what he had walked into), but he ultimately honored the agreement to a GM draw by playing the innocuous <6. Nxe4>.
|Sep-19-13|| ||zavariz: Hard to believe.|
|Jun-01-14|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: Believe or not !|
|Jul-17-14|| ||GM Rounak Pathak: Irrational!|
|Jul-17-14|| ||jhelix70: This game is a great example of the difference between "knowing theory" and "understanding an opening"|
|Sep-25-14|| ||SpiritedReposte: Shortest loss of any world champion ever??? I know Karpov had a famous slip against Christianson but that was 11 moves or so.|
This record may never be broken...hard to imagine a future/former world champ losing in 6 moves.
|Sep-25-14|| ||Sally Simpson: A quick scan through any reasonable database will reveal that this position|
click for larger view
Has popped up 14 times in OTB play (possibly more if you have a more up to date DB than mine.).
The first pre-dated the Miles pre-arranged game by 6 years when it appeared in the 1982 Olmpiad.
In a 2005 game I found this.
White played one more move 6...Qe7 then resigned after 7.Nd5.
|Sep-25-14|| ||john barleycorn: <Sally Simpson: A quick scan through any reasonable database will reveal that this position|
Has popped up 14 times in OTB play (possibly more if you have a more up to date DB than mine.).>
Then it is a strong competitor to this game:
Keres vs E Arlamowski, 1950
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|Oct-15-14|| ||doctork: @aw1988 if you see "no real chances for heavy tactics" in the 5.Nc3 line then you need to look up Karjakin's crushing win over Kramnik.|
|Oct-16-14|| ||Superjombonbo: Anand played 5...Bf5 because he had a game go 5. c4 Be7 6. Nc3 Bf5.|
|Nov-13-16|| ||Sally Simpson: This one is still catching people.
Add two more from the 2016 Olympiad.
R Jones vs Hlophe Smilo, 2016 and S Lill vs Hlophe Smilo, 2016
There may be a touch of the myths about how this happened.
When asked about this game Anand says he was unaware of the Miles vs L Christiansen, 1987 game. He simply played an prompted blunder.
|Nov-13-16|| ||Howard: Soltis stated back around 1990 that Anand WAS aware of this game---it was actually in the Informant, in fact.|
What he didn't know was that Christiansen and Miles had agreed to a draw prior to the game starting, and thus they were just shuffling the pieces around before actually agreeing to a draw.
|Nov-13-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Howard,
Just repeating what I recently read.
Someone asked Anand about this game. Anand said he never knew of the Miles v Christiansen game.
Yes the game was in the Informat but that does not mean Anand saw it. The blunder was also played before the Miles - Christiansen game.
I trusted the source.
|Nov-20-16|| ||Howard: Well, I trust what Soltis said---to each, his own.|
|Nov-23-16|| ||Howard: Personally, I trust Soltis' column when he stated that Anand WAS aware of the earlier game.|
For the record, the magazine Chess Monthly ran a letter about this matter which I wrote to them about six years ago.
|Apr-06-17|| ||Frits Fritschy: It is quite bad to lose with 5... Bf5 as black, but just imagine you have 300 elo more and lose the position with white! See https://www.365chess.com/view_game....|
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