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Adolf Anderssen vs Jean Dufresne
"The Evergreen Partie" (game of the day May-18-07)
Berlin GER (1852)  ·  Italian Game: Evans Gambit. Pierce Defense (C52)  ·  1-0
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Jan-18-12  Llawdogg: Beautiful!
Feb-06-12  BlackSheep: Its strange how people don't call their kids Adolf any more he was such a good player in his day.
Feb-06-12  TheFocus: <Its strange how people don't call their kids Adolf any more>

I blame Hitler.

I also notice that Hitler's mustache went out of fashion too.

Feb-06-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  alexmagnus: Actually if you look at the distribution of the name Adolf in Germany, you'll notice the former border between West and East Germany :D http://www.beliebte-vornamen.de/450...
May-24-12  Anderssen99: It seems Black has a saving clause: 19...,Bd4!!. 20.Nxd4,Rxg2+!!. 21.Kxg2 (Forced), Nxd4+. 22.Re4,Bxe4+. 23.Bxe4,Qg4+. 24.Kf1,Qe2+. 25.Kg1,Qxe4. 26.Qxd4,Qxd4. 27.Rxd4,Ng6 with a draw.
Jun-30-12  morphyesque: Re:Anderssen99 note of May24-12.A better white continuation was 26.Rxd4 Qg6+ 27.Kh1 Qb1+ 28.Rd1 Qb7+ 29.Kg1 Qc6 30.Qh4 O-O-O 31.f6xe7 Rg8+ 32.Kf1 Qxc3 and I rate this +3.72 advantage to white.I can understand though Dufresne playing 19....Qxf3 in 1852 long before chess search engines!
Jul-06-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Abdel Irada: Very characteristic of the Romantic era. Note that rather than seek safety in castling, Black plays for the counterattack starting with 11. ...b5. He intends to (and in fact does) set up Horwitz bishops on b6 and b7, proposing his own all-out assault on the white monarch.

Unfortunately, all of this takes time....

Sep-21-13  samuel.hoskins9: I must say, 19. Rad1 was much better than 19. Be4.
So:


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nd not:


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Oct-19-13  Oxnard: It's alright, I guess.
Oct-23-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  ThumbTack: Responding to <Nilsson>, Mar-08-11, and some earlier comments, Black's position is horrible, but 19..Qh3 does seem to lead to a draw. A number of people have suggested that it is a good 19th move for Black although other moves may be even better.

Here is one possible line:

19..Qh3 20. Bf1 Qf5 21. Kh1 Qxf6 22. Bxe7 Nxe7 23. Rxd7 Kf8 24. Rexe7 Qxf3 25. Qa3 Qxg2+ 24. Bxg2 Bxg2+ 25. K-g1 B-h3+ 26. K-h1 etc. (draw by perpetual check).

Perhaps Black can even win from this position, but on the face of it, if I were playing Black, I would be more than happy if I got a draw.

Jan-09-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  MarkFinan: From this position here my engine has the eval @0.00 .. 5 moves before white delivers a brilliant mate!


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But here when black plays 19..Qxf3? then if 20.Rxe7+ ...kd8 21.Rxd7+ ..kc8 22.Rd8+ ..kxd8 (taking with the rook loses the queen straight away) 23.Bf5+ ..Qxd1 24.QxQ and the position, whilst still grim, looks like this


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Blacks up material wise, but unless white plays correctly from here (which was doubtful with the older players, this game being a good example!) black still has a shot? My engine still has white up +3.50 from here. So even though the eval was up and down in blacks favour, then up and down in whites favour throughout the entire game, the losing move was definitely taking that 'poisoned knight' on f3.

Apr-05-14  Whitehat1963: What line do the most powerful engines provide after 18...Rg8?
Apr-13-14  LIFE Master AJ: Greetings:

http://www.lifemasteraj.com/old_af-...

My web page on this game.

Apr-13-14  john barleycorn: When Morphy was shown this game, he said:
"You can see the hand of a master".
Apr-15-14  LIFE Master AJ: (Source?)

If Morphy really said that, I would have to agree completely ...

IMO - the two greatest <purely> tactical players of all time were Adolf Anderssen and Mikhail Tal.

Apr-16-14
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  offramp: < john barleycorn: When Morphy was shown this game, he said: "You can see the hand of a master".>

When Morphy said that the man he was addressing <could > see the hand of a master.

Apr-16-14  john barleycorn: <offramp> is "One can see the hand of a master" correct? However there was no hand I guess. Literally.
Apr-16-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: Correct is "Talk to the hand! Of a master lol! Face palm lol!"
Apr-22-14  LIFE Master AJ: I really appreciate the intelligent comments/commentators on this site ...

it's a pity we also have to put up with the trolls as well.

Apr-22-14  N0B0DY: <Talk to the hand!> What is the sound of one hand clapping?
Apr-22-14
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  perfidious: <N0B0DY> There are posters here such as <Conrad>, <ughhaibu>, <AJ> and <pipi> whom you might ask about that-it's the only way they get there.
Apr-22-14  LIFE Master AJ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19m...
Apr-22-14
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  whiteshark: <Golden honey> http://www.l0rdshrek.info/bilderhos... (colourfast and emotionally driven)
Jun-10-14  posoo: Don't fret it, Lufmuss! Urrahbody <333333 U!
May-01-15  ToTheDeath: This game holds up and is still awesome even by today's standards. Unlike his "Immortal" game, this one has less mistakes and better play by both sides. Black was threatening mate on the move which makes the combination extra nice.
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