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NN vs Joseph Henry Blackburne
"Old Kentucky" (game of the day Oct-22-2005)
England (1880)
Italian Game: Jerome Gambit (C50)  ·  0-1
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Annotations by Joseph Henry Blackburne.      [148 more games annotated by Blackburne]

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Jul-10-08  sjgregory: Nor does 9. Qd8 work for White.

9. Qd8 Bd7 10. Qxa8 Ng4 12. h3 Bxf7+ and the game concludes in similar fashion to the actual moves played.

Jul-19-08  perrypawnpusher: "10.d4 would not have saved White either, because Black does not need to take the pawn straight away. 10.d4 Nf6!" etc.

sjgregory, I'm guessing you've got your move numbers off, since in the Blackburne game Black has already played 9...Nf6.

If you meant "9.d4" then 9...♘f6 is indeed best, although then 10.0-0 would be a blunder for White, not so much because of 10...♘g4 11.h3 ♗f5 (which is well-answered by 12.♗g5!) but because Black would then have 10...♗h3 winning.

Everybody is "throwing away" pieces in this variation.

White's best after 9.d4 ♘f6 is 10.♘d2 where the first player has the better game.

As far as I can tell, the earliest recommendation of 9.d4 was by J.B. and E.M. Munoz, editors of the Brooklyn Chess Chronicle, in the August 15, 1885 issue, where they present the legendary Jerome Gambit gameplayed some months ago in London between Mr. Blackburne and an Amateur."

Jul-19-08  perrypawnpusher: "Nor does 9.Qd8 work for White."

Again, sjgregory, this looks like a slip in move numbering, as in the Blackburne game White cannot get his Queen to d8 until Black has played ...♘f6 -- which he did on move 9.

If you are referring to 10.♕d8 you have pounced right into the middle of an interesting Jerome Gambit debate.

Again, as far as I can tell, the earliest recommendation of 10.♕d8 was by J.B. and E.M. Munoz, editors of the Brooklyn Chess Chronicle, in that August 15, 1885 issue.

After 10.♕d8, Black's best has been considered to be 10...♗b6 (e.g. Renaud & Kahn, The Art of the Checkmate, 1953), whereupon White has 11.e5 and after 11...dxe5 12.♕d3 he has the advantage.

Geoff Chandler and Todor Dimitrov (2004), however, have made a strong case that 10.♕d8 should be met by 10...♗h3 and that then the game is drawn.

You mention (by inference) 10.Qd8 Bd7, which actually occurred in Harris - Quayle, correspondence 1944, when 11.Qxa8 would have been a serious blunder, given that 11.Qxc7 (as played by Quayle) would have led to a winning position (Quayle quickly blundered, however, and lost soon thereafter).

I love discussing that reprobate, the Jerome Gambit!

Nov-08-08  thebribri8: I am a huge Blackburne fan, and I think that this is my favorite game of his. Of course the sacrifice is completely unsound, but the old boozer knew NN all too well.
Jan-20-09  WhiteRook48: great double rook sac!
Jul-04-09
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  Peligroso Patzer: <perrypawnpusher: ***

Geoff Chandler and Todor Dimitrov (2004), however, have made a strong case that 10.Qd8 should be met by 10...Bh3 and that then the game is drawn.

*** >

I am curious to know how they believe Black can hold after [10. Qd8 Bh3] 11. Qxc7+.

I suppose I should check www.jeromegambit.blogspot.com to see whether an answer is to be found there.

Jul-04-09
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  Peligroso Patzer: <DarthStapler: "Not to be outdone in generosity" [JHB's annotation to 7. ... d6] - Blackburne is hilarious!>

<perrypawnpusher: Blackburne's 7...d6?! was inaccurate - had he played Whistler's 7...Qe7! (played by Lt. Whistler in a postal match with Alonzo Wheeler Jerome himself) he would have had a different kind of win, although not nearly as flashy.>

Indeed. In choosing 7. ... d6?! Blackburne was playing commensurate to his opponent not only in terms of generosity, but also dubiety.

Jul-04-09
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  Peligroso Patzer: With reference to my own recent comment:

<Peligroso Patzer: <perrypawnpusher: ***

Geoff Chandler and Todor Dimitrov (2004), however, have made a strong case that 10.Qd8 should be met by 10...Bh3 and that then the game is drawn.

*** >

I am curious to know how they believe Black can hold after [10. Qd8 Bh3] 11. Qxc7+.>

The following analysis seems to support the conclusion that this line does indeed lead to a draw [after 10.Qd8 Bh3]:

11.Qxc7+ Kf8 12.Qxb7 Qg4 13.Qxa8+ Kf7

and now White must take a perpetual with: 14.Qb7+ (not 14.e5? d5 15.Qb7+ Be7 ) 14...Kf8 15.Qa8+ Kf7, etc.

But not here [after 15. Qa8+] 15...Kg7? (with the tempting but unsound idea of escaping perpetual by running to h6) because of 16.e5 Ne4 [No better for Black is 16...dxe5 17.Qb7+ Kh8 (17...Kg8 18.Qb3+) 18.d4 Bxd4 19.Bh6 ] 17.Qb7+ Kh8 18.Qxe4 Qxe4 19.gxh3 and White should win with the extra material.

Jan-09-10  Frezco: Having researched this opening, I have decided not to include it in my opening repertoire for White.

I will continue to prefer 1 f3.

Sep-16-10  nvrennvren: funny
Dec-13-11
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  Domdaniel: Exquisite. I love the delicate understatement of Blackburne's note to his 7th, "not to be outdone in generosity".

Plus a marked absence of those self-awarded screamers (!!) which certain contemporary annotators are addicted to. They could learn from the Black Death.

May-14-12  Llawdogg: Both rooks and then the queen!
Aug-22-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

NN vs Blackburne, 1880.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF BLACKBURNE.
Your score: 27 (par = 22)

LTJ

Dec-18-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Castleinthesky: hence the name Kentucky Opening
Jun-25-13
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  Check It Out: Beautiful mate at the end. Is this called a "perfect" mate or some-such, where each king flight square is covered by a different enemy piece?
Jul-30-13
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  goldfarbdj: I think the phrase is "model mate".
Jul-30-13
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  Phony Benoni: The final position:


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is an example of a "model" mate, because it is both "pure" and has all of Black's pieces (excepting possibly king and pawns) participating.

In a pure mate, the key is that each square the king can move to (the "king's field") is covered in only one way, whether by an enemy attacker or a friendly blockader. If we move the pieces around a little:


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This is still a model (and pure) mate, even though each of Black's bishops cover more than one flight square.

Mar-22-14  chesswar1000: <Not to be outdone in generosity>. Well, what about 7...Qg5?
Aug-08-16  The Kings Domain: Delightful miniature. One could almost feel white's hope and eventual dismay throughout the game.
Dec-22-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  GrahamClayton: An excellent example of a delayed double-rook sacrifice.
May-22-17
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  zanzibar: Blackburne annotated this game, so was it from his book w/Graham?

Fine uses a position from this game (p088.d135), after Black's 12th move, but omits the White queen on a8.

According to Fine, Blackburne played this game in a "blindfold seance".

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May-22-17  Paarhufer: <z: so was it from his book w/Graham?> I thought that you are a Google books user ...

The game is no. 170 on page 164. It was played in Simpson's Divan. The comment to White's 6th move is originally a note printed after the game without being assigned to a move.

The game belongs to chapter III "Games played off-hand, simultaneously or at odds". It does not belong to one of the two chapters on blindfold chess. Finally, it is not mentioned to be played in a simul (which is done in other cases).

May-22-17
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  ChessHigherCat: White was singing "Carry me home from Old Kentucky"
May-25-17
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  zanzibar: <Paarhufer: <z: so was it from his book w/Graham?> I thought that you are a Google books user ... >

Thanks for looking that game up.

Yes, I have a downloaded version of the book, but was too lazy/tired to look it up.

Sometimes I'm on late at night, and mostly working off one source - and so, not wanting to get too distracted can only leave a brief note on a sideline avenue.

I should point out that Harding, in his Blackburne book (p404), says this:

<Mr. Blackburne's Games of Chess was published in the fall. He did not do himself justice. The games in the book are not presented chronologically, but arranged firstly by opening and by theme (serious contests; then offhand games, odds games and simuls: then brilliant finishes, and finally blindfold games). This selection and arrangement provides no real sense of Blackburne's mighty struggles against his contemporaries. Annotations are skimpy. Several games are assigned to incorrect years or events, and the finishes of some were altered or truncated.>

This caveat should be borne in mind when using the book as a source. Some collaboration would be welcome, as is always the case anyways.

(But I'll concede that Fine is more likely wrong here.)

May-25-17
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  zanzibar: I should also add this Harding statement from p405:

<To what extent Blackburne himself was responsible for his book's structure and factual errors is debatable. The involvement of a contributor largely unknown in the chess world [i.e. Graham] was unfortunate.>

I wonder if there's an errata somewhere out there?

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