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Nov-11-18 | | Marmot PFL: 18 Rxf7 looks pretty simple as taking the rook is impossible 18...Kxf7 19 Qc4+ and everything loses. But this is an old and well known puzzle, harder if it starts on move 17. After declining the sacrifice black has material equality but such a weakened king side that white's attack almost plays itself. |
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Nov-11-18 | | messachess: Good one. Not really difficult. |
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Nov-11-18 | | DanielBryant: Too well known for a Sunday puzzle IMO. |
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Sep-19-20
 | | fiercebadger: not bad for a 57 year old |
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Dec-06-21 | | Mathematicar: Excellent game from Botvinik. |
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Mar-25-23
 | | fiercebadger: 18...Kxf7 19. Qc4+ Kg6 20. Qg4+ Kf7 21. Ng5+ Kg6 ( kg8 Qc4+ again) 22. Be4+ Kf6 23. Qf5+ |
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May-17-23 | | Saul Goodman: Botvinnik was certainly a great player, but he cheated, and we will never know the full extent of it. |
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May-17-23
 | | perfidious: <Saul Goodman: Botvinnik was certainly a great player, but he cheated, and we will never know the full extent of it.> What grounds do you have for this accusation? |
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May-17-23 | | Damenlaeuferbauer: <Saul Goodman> Of course the "patriarch" Mikhail Botvinnik was a problematic character and had strange opions concerning some topics and a big influence in Soviet chess from the 1930s to the early 1960s, but it is absurd to call him a "cheater". He devoted a great part of his life to the royal game. 20 years ago, my compatriot GM Christopher Lutz called him the best chess player of the 20th century. We had to remember, that in these decades it was VERY dangerous to live in the Soviet Union (especially until March 1953). David Bronstein, Vasily Smslov and Tigran Petrosian for example also made use of their influence in Soviet chess politics to their favour. He also helped some people, for example the young Garry Kasparov. Without the "patriarch", Kasparov would never become world champion. |
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May-17-23
 | | chancho: 18...Kxf7 19. Qc4+ Qd5 20. Ng5+ loses the Queen. 18...Kxf7 19. Qc4+ Kf6 20. Bg5+ loses the Queen. 18...Kxf7 19. Qc4+ Kg6 20. Qg4+ Kf7 21. Ng5+ Kg6 22. Be4+ Kf6 23. Qf5+ Ke7 24. Bc5+ Qd6 25. Qe6+ Kd8 26. Bb6+ Qc7 27. Nf7# |
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May-22-23 | | Saul Goodman: Kasparov’s books detail a number of occasions where Botvinnik acted dishonorably in chess matches. My favorite example is during the World Championship tournament of 1948 when Max Euwe’s notebooks containing his opening research disappeared from his hotel room for the duration of the tournament. Kasparov was an admirer of Botvinnik, but also honest about him. |
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May-22-23
 | | perfidious: After Kasparov's disgraceful treatment of his former second Vladimirov, why should anything he says or writes be taken on trust? His behaviour towards Vladimirov was as paranoiac as that of Botvinnik to his seconds. |
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May-22-23
 | | HeMateMe: Vladimirov was no threat to Kasparov, not in the same league? |
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Nov-07-23 | | rmdalodado: Quote for the game (#72) in Chernev's Golden Dozen: "The game, strangely enough does not appear in the book Botvinnik 's best games, 1947-1970, though it was voted the best game of the year by a jury of eight grandmasters." |
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Nov-07-23
 | | keypusher: <Saul Goodman: Kasparov’s books detail a number of occasions where Botvinnik acted dishonorably in chess matches. My favorite example is during the World Championship tournament of 1948 when Max Euwe’s notebooks containing his opening research disappeared from his hotel room for the duration of the tournament. Kasparov was an admirer of Botvinnik, but also honest about him.> Here's what is actually written in OMGP II at p. 161 (Kasparov is quoting Lev Alburt, who was three years old in 1948 and has no more first hand knowledge of the facts than you or I, but has written some crazy @#$% about Soviet players). <On the way from the Hague to Moscow, ex-world champion Max Euwe had his chess notebooks confiscated in Brest <(as Botvinnik writes, these were Euwe's secret opening analyses --G.K)>. The customs officials, you see, imagined that this was code. At Botvinnik's request the notebooks were returned, and Euwe was touched and heartily grateful, but...copies of the notes somehow found their way to the Soviet grandmasters.> Assuming this copying-and-dissemination actually took place, it did Botvinnik no good: he had two quiet draws with Euwe in Moscow, and neither game was played at the bleeding edge of opening theory. Euwe vs Botvinnik, 1948 Botvinnik vs Euwe, 1948 Keres and Smyslov beat Euwe like a rented mule in Moscow, but they'd done the same in the Hague. Maybe find some other page on which to smear Botvinnik? This is a nice game. |
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Jan-04-24 | | Saul Goodman: <keypusher: <Here's what is actually written in OMGP II at p. 161 (Kasparov is quoting Lev Alburt>Nice job cherry-picking your quotes. On the previous page Kasparov asserts that Botvinnik met with the head of propaganda of the Soviet Union, supposedly at the behest of Josef Stalin himself, who told Botvinnik that it could be arranged for the fellow Soviets to lose to him intentionally. According to Kasparov, Botvinnik agreed to “leave the question open.” There are other examples of duplicity from Kasparov’s series. I do agree with you that Botvinnik played brilliantly against Portisch. |
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Sep-15-24
 | | FSR: <Damenlaeuferbauer: . . . 20 years ago, my compatriot GM Christopher Lutz called [Botvinnik] the best chess player of the 20th century.> A startling claim, which I'd never heard anyone make before. Not crazy, but startling. (I assume that Lutz meant "greatest" rather than literally "best," which really would be crazy. As with other competitive endeavors, players continually get better, and it is certain that Kasparov, Karpov, and Fischer among others were stronger in absolute terms than Botvinnik.) Almost everyone would rate Kasparov and Fischer higher. I would add Lasker to that list. Many would add Capablanca (certainly Chernev would, since he claimed for some reason that Capa was the greatest). It's probably unfair, but I mostly think of Botvinnik as the world champion of exploiting rules written to favor him. He won the FIDE World Championship Tournament (1948) handily, but he <never> won a one-on-one match <as world champion>. He drew Bronstein in 1951, drew Smyslov in 1954, lost to Smyslov in 1957, won the return match in 1958, lost to Tal in 1960, won the return match in 1961, and lost to Petrosian in 1963. By this time, FIDE had taken away his right to a return match, so Botvinnik took his ball and went home in a snit. In those seven matches from 1951 to 1963 he scored minus 3. Ties in 1951 and 1954, -3 in 1957, +2 in 1958, -4 in 1960, +5 in 1961, -3 in 1963. Yet with this record Botvinnik was world champion for all but two of the years from 1948 to 1963! This strikes me as very unfair. Smyslov won two consecutive Candidates tournaments - something Botvinnik never had to do - and then got a plus score in three matches against Botvinnik. All that work, yet poor Smyslov only got to be world champion for one year. Botvinnik fans will protest that he peaked in the early 1940s, and might well have had an even longer and more impressive reign as world champion if WWII hadn't intervened. Could be. |
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Sep-15-24
 | | perfidious: <FSR....Botvinnik fans will protest that he peaked in the early 1940s, and might well have had an even longer and more impressive reign as world champion if WWII hadn't intervened....> I have no point to prove here, but believe the above could well have been true and that matters could easily have gone thus; but we shall never know. I find Lutz' claim hilarious.
Botvinnik was interviewed by <NIC> ca 1985 and acknowledged that Smyslov was the strongest player in the world in the mid 1950s. |
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Sep-15-24
 | | keypusher: < As with other competitive endeavors, players continually get better, and it is certain that Kasparov, Karpov, and Fischer among others were stronger in absolute terms than Botvinnik.) Almost everyone would rate Kasparov and Fischer higher. I would add Lasker to that list. Many would add Capablanca (certainly Chernev would, since he claimed for some reason that Capa was the greatest).> I would add Karpov. The contrast between Karpov as champ and Botvinnik as champ is pretty glaring. I think of Capa and Alekhine on more or less a par with Botvinnik. <Botvinnik fans will protest that he peaked in the early 1940s, and might well have had an even longer and more impressive reign as world champion if WWII hadn't intervened. Could be.> I do think that's true. On the other hand, it's also possible to write happier biographies for Keres and Flohr if not for Hitler and Stalin. (Though I think Flohr was too much of a beat-the-weakies-with-technique player even at his peak to ever win the title.) I've defended the idea of the lineal world championship decided by matches, but you could definitely argue that holding the championship has been bad for a lot of players. Fischer above all, but it also seemed like a burden for Petrosian and Spassky. Carlsen finally just gave it up. Botvinnik played relatively little outside of his title matches from '51 through '63 and seemed to spend most of his time on match preparation. He played a lot more freely and, I think, joyfully after he didn't have to worry about the title. Lasker was on the two-tournaments-per-decade plan for most of his reign. The title also caused a really stupid feud that kept Capa and Alekhine from playing each other for nine years. |
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Sep-16-24
 | | FSR: <keypusher: . . . The contrast between Karpov as champ and Botvinnik as champ is pretty glaring.> Very true. In world championships and especially in tournaments. Botvinnik barely played in tournaments while he was world champion, while Karpov won tournament after tournament, winning well over a hundred of them. |
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Sep-16-24
 | | perfidious: If anything, <keypusher> understates the case; Karpov was, in fact, the first reigning titleholder since Alekhine's purple patch of 1930-34 to enjoy such hegemony. |
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Sep-16-24
 | | Troller: Botvinnik worked as a scientist after becoming WC, no? Later WCs would be professional chess players, I do not think that can be said about the post-1948 Botvinnik. |
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Sep-16-24
 | | perfidious: Botvinnik was an electrical engineer before winning the title and a great theorist, but his finest contribution to chess may well have been his school. |
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Sep-16-24
 | | FSR: <perfidious> If you think about it, there are not many world champions who have been dominant tournament players while they were world champion. Steinitz, Lasker, Alekhine in the period you mention, Karpov, Kasparov, Carlsen. I think that's it. |
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Sep-16-24
 | | keypusher: < Troller: Botvinnik worked as a scientist after becoming WC, no?
Later WCs would be professional chess players, I do not think that can be said about the post-1948 Botvinnik.> I don't know enough about his biography to say. I've also heard that he had a nervous breakdown after he won the title, though there is probably no more to that than someone noticing he didn't play for three years and concluding "he must have had a nervous breakdown!". He spent a lot of time on chess computers and also had, as <perfidious> noted, a chess school. Could he have done that, played a fair amount of (thoroughly prepared!) chess and also worked full-time as an engineer or scientist? Of course at some point it became impossible to play chess at the top level without being a professional. Euwe may have been the last to do so. I know Botvinnik was a full-time engineer during the war, and I know he didn't play chess from 1948 to 1951, whatever else he may have been doing. But in, say, the mid-30s, when the Soviet state gave him a car (quite a perquisite for a Soviet citizen) was Botvinnik really an amateur? |
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