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Gyula Breyer vs Siegbert Tarrasch
"So Good, It Must be Breyer's" (game of the day Dec-29-2015)
Mannheim (1914), Mannheim GER, rd 7, Jul-28
Spanish Game: Open Variations. Classical Defense (C83)  ·  1-0


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Feb-06-03  refutor: a fabulous performance by favorite move was Nd4 inducing ...c5. very nice finish as well...this definitely wasn't tarrasch at his best...kinda ironic to see 1.e4 from the man who said "after 1.e4, white's game is in it's last throes" ;)
Feb-06-03  drukenknight: wouldn't 26 Bg4 be better?
Feb-06-03  refutor: it's hard to say...i like 26.Re1 because it gets his last piece developed and takes control of the only open file
Feb-06-03  drukenknight: Bg4 sets up a discovered attack via the check on h6, where does black put his Rook?
Feb-06-03  refutor: 26.Bg4 Rdd8 maybe
Feb-06-03  drukenknight: after 27 Nh6+ I think it looks ugly.
Oct-05-06  ToTheDeath: Interesting that both of Breyer the hypermodernist's wins against the great classical player Tarrasch are with the same move he derided as an error (1. e4).

Do as I say, not as I do, eh?

Jul-01-15  Kramsalov: It depends when Breyer Said that.. Manheim 1914 is early tournement for him. I think that Tarrasch simpy did not see 23.Qh3 and no possibility to take a bishop. Otherwise he would never play c6-c5-c4 which totally destroy position. 20.Qg4 then Qg6, Kh8, Rg8 looks not bad for black.
Jul-01-15  cunctatorg: Yeah, Gyula (Julius) Breyer conducted a real masterpiece starting with 1. P-K4 and I wonder if that very game is his very best; however he did play the Ruy Lopez and furthermore the main line, he didn't capture the Nc6 ... which proves that he was a theorist but not a dogmatic one. Aron Nimzowitsch was playing 1. P-k4 on (at) several occasions but, alas, he did play a lot of (2. N-KB3) 3. N-QB3 also games also... which proves that he was also an ardent, dedicated and even borderline researcher...
Dec-29-15  Sularus: Breyer showed Tarrasch a thing or two on how to use the knight. :)
Dec-29-15  indomega: Rxe8 Qxe8 mate. I get it
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  kevin86: White forces a quick back rank mate.
Dec-29-15  Angsthyrkh: What am I missing on 18 ...gxf6? I can't seem to find what's wrong with 18 ...rxf6.
Dec-29-15  dusk: <Angst> how about 19. Bxd5+
Dec-29-15  Angsthyrkh: I see. I missed that with a continuation of 19. Bxd5+ nxd5 20. Qxd5+ black loses a rook.
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  Honza Cervenka: 27...Bg7 was a grave mistake. 27...b4 28.Qxf6 bxc3 29.bxc3 Bg7 30.Nxg7 Rxg7 keeps the play near equality.
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  PawnSac: < indomega: Rxe8 Qxe8 mate. I get it

kevin86: White forces a quick back rank mate. >

No. After 41.Re8+ Rxe8 42.Qxe8+ (winning a piece) Bf8 43. Qxf8+ (forcing the queen trade) Qg8 44.Qxg8+ Kxg8 45.Bc8 (creating a passed pawn) a5 46.Ba6 b4 47.Bxc4+ Kf8 48.cxb4 axb4 49.a4 game over

Jul-08-16  rainingpieces: <PawnSac> nitpicking, but 44.Qxh6+ wins faster in your given line
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  perfidious: <rainingpieces: <PawnSac> nitpicking, but 44.Qxh6+ wins faster in your given line>

It cannot possibly be that <PawnSac> erred; his every thought, deed and post define perfection and woe be unto the incautious poster who suggests that he is capable of the slightest mistake, for they shall be cast into the outer darkness and deemed unworthy of existence in his universe.

As for me: any day I will take a human being who is capable of making a mistake and owning up over the likes of someone who comes it over and simply says 'you are wrong', when the evidence clearly contradicts him. No reasoning with such a poster, which is why I sent him away a time ago; I've less than no time for such flotsam and jetsam.

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  Sally Simpson: Well the lad is correct.


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44.Qxh6+ mates next move. But Pawn Sac is not wrong. His line also wins...eventually.

There is a trick hidden in here, far too outrageous for Tarrasch to attempt, but me...I've no shame.

Due to White's weak back rank Black's best chance is not to play 41...Re8 but 41...Bf8.

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42 Qxg5 Rxe8.

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White now has to play 43.Qd2 or 43.Qc1 if White plays the hasty check 43.Qf6+ saving the attacked Queen and intending luft then after 43...Bg7.

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White discovers he has to give up the Queen with 44.Qe6.

White still has all the winning chances due to the extra pawns but if they fell for 43.Qf6+ then you never know.

Aug-05-16  rainingpieces: <perfidious> If I understood you correctly, I did wrong by pointing out a neat mate? I thought it looked nice.
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  perfidious: <rainingpieces> Not at all; my comment was directed towards <PawnSac>, who believes every word emanating from him is holy writ and was presumptuous to lecture me on something when he was wrong, then start with insults when proved incorrect.
Aug-06-16  rainingpieces: <perfidious> Ah okay. I got a bit confused because I did not know the story.
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