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|Nov-12-12|| ||Olavi: In the Intro of <L.S. Blackstock's Ruy Lopeaz: Breyer System (1976)> the editor O'Donnell suggests <Becsi Magyar Ujsag> as the most likely source for further historical research. There's no mention of 1911 but the back cover says that Blackstock published two previous works on the Breyer.|
|Nov-13-12|| ||thomastonk: Thank you very much, <Olavi>! Bottlik gives a lot of references to <Bécsi Magyar Újság>, and so it seems that he has checked this source.|
|Apr-30-13|| ||brankat: R.I.P. master Breyer.|
|Jun-26-13|| ||KlingonBorgTatar: Sometime ago, I read somewhere that Breyer invented this combined maneuver of pawn to R4 then p - R5 , then N(B3) - R4 to N6. (I am using the old English Descriptive notation as Breyer may have been white or black, or may have done this in the Q's or K's wing) .I am in the process of searching his <cg> collection and would like to ask if someone can point me to that game if that game really existed. My interest in Breyer lies more in his novel positional moves, retrograde moves, guerilla tactics, trench warfare, maneuvering behind the frontline, and sudden explosive conversions of the closed game to an open one.Anyone know of games along these lines aside from the above Notable Games? |
Thanks on advance! :-)
|Dec-04-13|| ||parisattack: Hi <KlingonBorgTatar>|
I'll check the Streeter/Buschke manuscript, see if I can find that maneuver in any games. Did you find any here in the CG.com database? I know it occurs in the Sokolsky but not sure what other openings would qualify.
I have a relative of a local Hungarian friend who is (as time permits) doing some research on Breyer out of Budapest - newspapers, periodicals, ancestry. I would still very much like to see a good Breyer book in English!
(I read your Profile; seems we have a lot in common, chessically.)
If you haven't already - check out Leonid Stein's games. I call his style 'dynamodern' - dynamic with a shot of hypermodernism.
|Dec-23-13|| ||Karpova: Winter tournament (probably 1915) of the Budapest Chess Club:|
1. Jul. Breyer 7.0
2. Havasi 6.0
3. S. Barasz 5.5
4-5. J. Gajdos 5.0
4-5. L. Merenyi 5.0
6. L. Zobel 3.5
7. J. Szivos 3.0
8. L. Seböck 1.0
9. B. Krivoss 0.0
All prizes taken together were 815 K, but half of that sum was donated to the Red Cross.
Source: Page 74 of the March-April 1915 'Wiener Schachzeitung'
|Dec-23-13|| ||parisattack: The only Breyer-Havasi 1915 I show in the Streeter/Buschke manuscript is the consultation game they played together -|
Breyer / A Havasi vs Asztalos / Barasz, 1915
Budapest 02-13-15. Perhaps around the time of the tournament?
|Jan-23-14|| ||Karpova: II. Hungarian Chess Congress, Temesvar, 1912
Mixed Master tournament, 15 rounds, single round robin:
1. Breyer 10.5
2. Asztalos 9.5
3-4. von Balla 9.0
3-4. Merenyi Junior 9.0
5. Tyroler 8.5
6. Mayer 8.0
7-8. Szekely 7.5
7-8. Barasz 7.5
9. K Havasi 7.0
10. Sterk 6.5
11-12. Reti 6.0
11-12. Földes 6.0
13. Dalmy 4.0
14-15. Pesitz 3.0
14-15. B Steiner 3.0
Prizes (<Kronen>): Breyer 500, Asztalos 400, von Balla and Merenyi junior share 300 + 200, Tyroler 150, Mayer 100, Szekely and Barasz share 80 + 50.
Breyer scored +7 -0 =7 and was leading the event from start to finish. Dr. Asztalos scored +6 -1 =7, von Balla +6 -2 =6 and Merenyi Junior +7 -3 =4.
The Master tournament commenced on August 10 and almost all of the best Hungarian chessplayers participated. Exceptions were Maroczy (who had retired from chess and back then it looked as if he would never return, organising and writing on chess instead. He would make a comeback after WWI), Forgacs (professional duties), and Dr. Brody got married.
Dr. Asztalos also became Master of the Hungarian Chess Federation (<Er erlangte hiermit auch die Meisterwürde des Ungarischen Schachbundes.>). Merenyi junior only shared 3rd-4th place, although he was in 2nd place for most of the tournament - but then he lost 3 in a row in rounds 11, 12 and 13. The good performances of Szekely, Barasz, Sterk and Reti were taken as a sign that Hungary had many good talents.
Source: Pages 271-272 of the September-Oktober 1912 'Wiener Schachzeitung'
|Jul-31-14|| ||dark.horse: For a guy who said "after the first move 1.e4 White's game is in the last throes" he sure opened a lot of games with the e-pawn.|
|Oct-24-14|| ||TheFocus: It is a pity so few of Breyer's games are available here.|
Must be because he began making ice cream and could not always play in chess tournaments.
|Jun-04-15|| ||PhilFeeley: Wikipedia quotes Barden (1963) giving the 1911 date for the Breyer variation:|
|Apr-30-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Gyula Breyer.
I may write a book about you.
|Apr-10-17|| ||zanzibar: <THE DEMISE OF GYULA BREYER.|
Just a year ago, in Berlin, Gyula Breyer of Hungary achieved the ambition which
fires every young master in an international tournament—the winning of first prize
and the world-wide renown that goes with it. This was fully reported in the Bulletin for January, 1920. Now we have to record the sudden death of this promising
young expert at the early age of 28, his demise occurring at Pressburg on November
11. A very complete summary of his tournament record appeared in the London
"Field," from which we quote:
"Breyer had a very fine tournament record. The first masters' tournament in which he
competed was at Postyen, in 1912, when he tied for the seventh prize. In the same year he tied for
the eighth prize at Breslau, and won the first prize in the Hungarian National Tournament. At
Scheveningen, in 1913, he won the sixth prize, and in the Gambit tournament at Baden, near Vienna,
in 1914, he was fourth. In 1914 he played at Mannheim, and when the tournament was brought to an
abrupt conclusion by the outbreak of war, he stood fourth. In the Kassa (Hungary) tournament of
1918 he tied for third prize. At Gothenburg, in 1920, he did not do so well, winning only one game,
losing three, and drawing nine. However, he drew with the first two prize winners, Reti and Rubenstein.
His crowning success was at Berlin in 1920, when he secured the first prize with a score of
six and a half games out of nine, beating Bogoljuboff, Reti, Maroczy, Tarrasch, Leonhardt and Spielman,
drawing with. Samisch and losing to TarHakower and Mieses. In his last tournament, Vienna,
May, 1921, he won the third prize. He was a very original player, and was exceptionally good at
blindfold play. At Kassa (Hungary), in January, 1921, he played simultaneously, without seeing the
boards, no fewer than twenty-five games (a world's record), winning fifteen, drawing seven and
losing only three."
ACB v18 (1921) p207
|Aug-13-17|| ||parisattack: At last! Jimmy Adams' Breyer tome -
|Aug-13-17|| ||Magpye: <TheFocus: Happy birthday, Gyula Breyer.
I may write a book about you.>
|Aug-13-17|| ||zanzibar: How can Amazon run such a deep discount already?|
Or is this just par for the course?
|Aug-14-17|| ||Magpye: I've seen good deals by Amazon.
A $10 savings is nice.
|Jan-19-18|| ||zanzibar: <<switch> ... But if modern experts can't do better than 1.e4?, then there's something very wrong with the game of chess.>|
Is this a serious statement?! Hmmm...
|Jan-19-18|| ||zanzibar: From Adams book on Breyer I found this excerpt of excerpts....|
Finally, an article from the beginning of 1923 taken from <Tijdschrift van de Nederlandse Schaakbond>, from the content of which we might say: how Breyer influenced Reti - and Alekhine!
<Alekhine's Opening> - by Richard Reti
In 1918 Gyula Breyer published in <Magyar Sakkvilag> a humorous article, <"The test move">, in which he gives advice if you have to play against an unknown opponent and want to know promptly how he would respond if you met his 1.e4 with 1...Nf6.
Breyer said that if the opponent replies quickly 2.e5 without thinking then you can expect to have to deal with someone who might make an incorrect piece sacrifice later on in the game; however, if he plays 2.e5 only after some thought, it will be more difficult because you would then have to deal with a positional player!
OK, where can we find online access to the relevant <Magyar Sakkvilag> or <Tijdschrift van de Nederlandse Schaakbond> issues? Or even find the "The test move" article?
|Jan-20-18|| ||sneaky pete: <zanzibar> Here is rhe Réti article in the February 1923 issue of the Tijdschrift:|
|Jan-20-18|| ||zanzibar: Thanks <sneaky>, I'll be sure to have a look at it. |
Kind of foolish of me, but I mostly thought of <delpher> in the kranten-sense. Good tip.
|Jan-21-18|| ||zanzibar: Breyer's DSZ obit:
DSZ v76 N11 (Nov 1921) p262-3
Gyula Breyer +.
At the age of only 28 is the Hungarian Grandmaster
Gyula Breyer recently died. This sad news is coming
unfortunately not unexpected, because Breyer had been suffering for a long time.
Immediately after the Berlin tournament in 1920, from which he emerged in a brilliant manner as the first winner - the greatest success of his life -
he suffered a hemorrhage. At the age of 18, he guided his mental
rich game in the main tournament in Cologne in 1911 attracted the attention
world on itself. A year later he fought in the championship tournaments of
Pistyan and Wroclaw. Already at that time Schlechter noticed in the "D. Schachz ":
"Jungmeister Breyer's game makes one guess the future grandmaster."
Košice In 1918 he was fourth prize winner. He scored in Gothenburg in 1920
only a respectable success. Breyer's game type was highly original. The
bizarre maneuvers for which he had a fondness, were always deeply thought out
and therefore, even if they had a hole, hard on the board
lay. When you played with Breyer, you never really needed it
to think about what train he'll do, because you can do it
could not guess. - In his appearance and in his whole
Being, Breyer offered a striking resemblance to his ingenious compatriot
Charousek, whose tragic fate he has now shared, because this one too
After all, when she was young she succumbed to the same malicious illness. The
Chess world and especially the Hungarian chess circles have Breyers
Death suffered a heavy blow.
|Jan-21-18|| ||zanzibar: Here are some comments on Adams book by Winter:|
And, in return, a four-part rebuttal by Adams himself:
Who's behind kingpinchess.net? What exactly is that website about?
|Jan-22-18|| ||JimNorCal: The CN 10554 link did not work for me. If other readers experience same they may wish to try|
|Jan-22-18|| ||JimNorCal: That 4 part Kingpin series is amazing!
Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
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