|Feb-05-08|| ||HNP: Interesting. Black seems to be already lost after 8...Nc6?|
|Feb-05-08|| ||Shams: somebody should use this game to inaugurate a "WCC Match Game Opening Catastrophes" game collection. I hope Mikhail had a bottle of Stoli in his bag.|
|Feb-05-08|| ||keypusher: <Shams: somebody should use this game to inaugurate a "WCC Match Game Opening Catastrophes" game collection. I hope Mikhail had a bottle of Stoli in his bag.>|
Hell, you could do a pretty large "Steinitz-Chigorin WCC Opening Catastrophes" collection.
|Feb-27-08|| ||Knight13: <Interesting. Black seems to be already lost after 8...Nc6?> ...Nc6 was a "Chigorin Thing...." He just had to play that; it was in his blood.|
|Feb-27-08|| ||goldenbear: It seems to me that 8.Nc6 isn't so bad, provided that after 9.d5, then 9.Nd4. 9.exd5? is the real mistake I think.|
|Feb-27-08|| ||goldenbear: Actually, I think 2.Bg4, 3.Bxf3, and 4.e6 are all weaker moves. As are 3.c4, certainly 5.cxd5?, and 6.e4. Nevertheless, I think Steinitz plays perfectly after 9.exd5?, which is the final mistake as far as I can tell.|
|Aug-26-08|| ||JimmyVermeer: 20 Rxc7+ seems to be a faster win. The game might have continued 20 Rxc7+ Kb8 21 Bxe4 Qxb5+ 22 Ke1 Rd5 23 Bf4 Rd1+ 24 Kxd1 Rd8+ 25 Kc1 Ka8 26 Bxb7+ Qxb7 27 Rxb7 Nf7 28 Rxf7 Rc8+ 29 Kb2 Rc7 30 Qg2+ Rc6 31 Qxc6#|
|Aug-21-10|| ||soothsayer8: 3...Bxf3, a bold assertion against Steinitz's belief that the bishop pair is stronger than the knight pair.|
|Jun-23-12|| ||Chessical: <20. Rxc7+> also wins after |
click for larger view
<20...Kb8> 21. Rxb7+ Qxb7 22. Bf4+ Ka8 23. Nc7+ Kb8 24. Nd5+ Kc8 25. Qc3+ Kd7 26. Nf6+ Ke7 27. Qe5+ Kf7 28. Bc4+ Kg7 (<28... Rd5> being equally hopeless) 29. Nd7+ Kg6 30. Qg5 mate.
|May-28-15|| ||mandor: Well, things are not so easy for white if 13. Ke2 and then 14.Kf1 due to Qb6-Qe6-Qh3 and things could change a lot depending on white reaction. From practical point of view, seems to me, a nice move 13. Qxf3!|
|May-28-15|| ||mandor: But if white instead of 11.Ad3 plays simply 11.Rc1 the things go easy right? (there are threats to capture the queen if black bishop moves away with Nxd5 ..|