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Apr-05-11 | | fab4: Apr-05-11
<FSR: Fischer is a genius. Probably every other player on earth at the time would have lost this game. >You can only ever deal with your 'own' time but yep.. absolutely agree. |
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Apr-13-12
 | | offramp: I bet Fischer really didn't like Matulovic... |
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Apr-13-12 | | PaulLovric: couldn't black have queened this? |
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Apr-13-12 | | King Death: < offramp: I bet Fischer really didn't like Matulovic...> I'm not sure what point there is in this comment but I bet the players that had a chance for the Candidates going into the last round and didn't make it didn't like him or Taimanov either. Taimanov vs Matulovic, 1970 |
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Apr-21-12
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <PaulLovric>
From the final position, black to move:
 click for larger viewThere is no way for black to stop white from harvesting the pawn, so K+R ending is then dead drawn. |
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May-20-12 | | PaulLovric: thank you, <jessicafischerqueen> when i came back to this final position today (a month after my initial comment) it looked obvious that the game is drawn and i wondered why i even asked the question? maybe i get wrapped up in the fun, 'anticipation' and excitement as i am watching every move, click by click and 'think' or 'not think' of all the possibilities and eventually getting lost in the position |
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Oct-29-12 | | DrGridlock: Nf2 is Black's best option at move 15.
 click for larger viewAnalysis by Komodo32 3 32bit:
1. µ (-1.09): 15...Nf2+ 16.Ke2 Nxh1 17.d4 g5 18.fxg5 h6 19.g6 f6 20.e6 0-0 21.Bf4 f5 22.Nd2 Rf6 23.Kf3 Rxg6 24.Rxh1 Rxe6 25.Nc4 Rf8 26.Rd1 Kh7 27.Ne3 h5 28.d5 Rg6 29.dxc6 bxc6 30.Nc4 Re8 31.Rd7 2. µ (-0.87): 15...Rd8 16.Kc2 f6 17.exf6 exf6 18.Rf1 0-0 19.Na3 Rfe8 20.Nc4 Re2 21.Rf3 Ne1+ 22.Kd1 Ree8 23.Rg3 Nd3 24.Re3 Rxe3 25.Nxe3 Nxf4 26.d4 c5 27.g3 Nd3 28.Kc2 cxd4 29.Kxd3 dxe3+ 30.Ke2 Re8 31.a4 3. µ (-0.76): 15...0-0 16.Rf1 f6 17.e6 Rad8 18.Na3 Rd6 19.Nc4 Rxe6 20.b3 f5 21.Nb2 Nc5 22.Rf3 Rd8 23.b4 Ne4 24.Kc2 Nd6 25.Nd3 b6 26.a4 Kf7 27.Rh3 Re2 28.Rxh7 Nc4 29.b5 Kg8 |
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Oct-29-12 | | DrGridlock: Black's exchange of his knight for white's bishop at move 16 threw away the rest of remaining advantage: click for larger viewAnalysis by Komodo32 3 32bit:
1. ³ (-0.63): 16...0-0-0 17.g3 f6 18.exf6 exf6 19.Na3 Rhe8 20.Nc4 Re2 21.a4 Bg7 22.b3 Nf2 23.Rf1 Ne4 24.h3 f5 25.Rf3 Rh2 26.h4 Bf6 27.Re3 Rg2 28.a5 Rxg3 29.Rxg3 Nxg3 30.Ba3 Bxh4 31.Nd6+ 2. ³ (-0.56): 16...Rd8 17.g3 g5 18.f5 Bg7 19.Na3 Bxe5 20.Nc4 Bc7 21.b3 h5 22.Nb2 Nf2 23.Re1 Rd5 24.Nc4 Rxf5 25.Ba3 e6 26.Bd6 Kd7 27.Be5 Rg8 28.a4 Bxe5 29.Nxe5+ Kc7 30.d4 Rd8 31.a5 Ng4 32.Nxg4 3. = (-0.22): 16...Nxc1 17.Re1 Nxa2 18.g3 Nxc3 19.dxc3 g5 20.fxg5 Bxg5 21.e6 fxe6 22.h4 Bf6 23.Rxe6 Rg8 24.Re3 a6 25.Nd2 0-0-0 26.Ne4 Rgf8 27.Nxf6 exf6 28.Rf1 Kc7 29.Re7+ Rd7 30.Rxd7+ Kxd7 31.g4 h6 32.Kd3 |
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Oct-29-12 | | RookFile: A terrific defensive effort by Fischer after getting into trouble. |
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Oct-30-12 | | DrGridlock: Especially commendable was the way Fischer was able to stare down Matulovic, and get him to play 15 ... Bh6 and 16 ... Nxc1. Without the "evil eye" from Fischer, Matulovic had an impressive attack. |
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Oct-30-12 | | RandomVisitor: After 15.f4
 click for larger view Rybka 4.1 x64:
[-1.10] d=24 15...Nf2+ 16.Ke2 Nxh1 17.d4 g5 18.Na3 f6 19.e6 0-0-0 20.Nc2 g4 21.Bd2 f5 22.Ne3 Rdf8 23.Rxh1 h5 24.d5 cxd5 25.Nxd5 Rh6 26.Nxe7+ Kb8 27.Nd5 Rxe6+ 28.Ne3 h4 29.Kd3 b5 30.Ra1 Kb7 |
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Oct-30-12 | | RandomVisitor: After 10...Bf5, white might try leaving the Queens on the board one move longer, forcing black to play Nd5 instead of Ne6: click for larger view Rybka 4.1 x64:
[-0.48] d=22 11.Na3 Nd5 12.Qxd3 Bxd3 13.b3 g5 14.Nxg5 Bxe5 15.Nc4 Bf6 16.Nb2 Bg6 17.Nf3 0-0-0 18.g3 Bh5 19.Ng1 Kc7 20.a4 e6 21.Ne2 Bf3 22.Rf1 Rhg8 |
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Oct-30-12
 | | harrylime: ^^^
Thanks ..
But you've missed the boat by 42 years.... |
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Oct-30-12 | | RandomVisitor: Final look after 10...Bf5:
[-0.50] d=25 11.Na3 Nd5 12.Qxd3 Bxd3 13.b3 b5 14.Bb2 0-0 15.g3 a5 16.Kd1 Rfd8 17.Re1 c5 18.Ng5 b4 19.Nc2 h6 20.Nf3 a4 21.cxb4 cxb4 22.Ne3 g5 23.Rc1 |
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Oct-30-12 | | RandomVisitor: After 6.e5, best was perhaps 6...Nd5 7.d4:
 click for larger view Rybka 4.1 x64:
[-0.25] d=23 6...Nd5 7.d4 cxd4 8.cxd4 d6 9.Nc3 Be6 10.Bxc6+ bxc6 11.0-0 0-0 12.Re1 Nxc3 13.bxc3 h6 14.Bf4 Rb8 15.h4 d5 16.Rab1 Qa5 17.Qd2 Kh7 |
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Oct-30-12
 | | harrylime: ^^^
lol .. You keep checking your computer ... lol
You're 40 years too late however .....
The game in the chessworld when it was played versus you on your computer in 2012 ... Hmmmmm ! lol lol |
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Oct-30-12 | | RandomVisitor: <harrylime>I use computers to understand and figure out if there was a better move. You might also understand your idol Fischer better.
After 4...Nf6
Rybka 4.1 x64:
[+0.00] d=24 5.d3 Bg7 6.0-0 0-0 7.h3 d5 8.Bxc6 bxc6 9.e5 Nd7 10.Qe2 Qc7 11.Bf4 Re8 12.Bg3 Qb6 13.e6 fxe6 14.b3 a5 15.Qxe6+ Kh8 16.Qf7 |
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Oct-30-12 | | Olavi: <RandomVisitor> Without wishing to defend any uncourteous remarks, it is true that what's relevant of the lines you have posted was pointed out 40 years ago. Old books does it for me! Cheers. |
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Oct-30-12 | | RookFile: The analysis actually matches up pretty well with the 1970's commentary and has the ring of familiarity to it. No doubt RV's analysis today is slightly deeper. |
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Oct-31-12
 | | AylerKupp: You guys don't understand. <harrylime> stopped thinking 40 years ago. There couldn't have been a better move. If there had been, Fischer would have played it ............ Hmmmmmmmmmm ! LOL!!! LOL !!! LOL !!! |
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Oct-31-12 | | RandomVisitor: G Hernandez vs Y Iwasaki, 2006 Follows this game as far as 7.Qc4. Curious if there was a planned improvement. |
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Mar-21-13
 | | perfidious: <DrGridlock: Especially commendable was the way Fischer was able to stare down Matulovic, and get him to play 15 ... Bh6 and 16 ... Nxc1. Without the "evil eye" from Fischer, Matulovic had an impressive attack.> This is utterly fatuous.
Maybe you're better off sticking to your regurgitations of Komodo as you mock great players' past efforts. Learn from <AylerKupp>: when he is kind enough to provide us with his engine analysis, we are spared the disrespectful comments. He says it out and has done with it. |
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Mar-21-13
 | | perfidious: <AylerKupp: You guys don't understand. <harrylime> stopped thinking 40 years ago. There couldn't have been a better move. If there had been, Fischer would have played it ............ Hmmmmmmmmmm ! LOL!!! LOL !!! LOL !!!> One minor quibble, sir: you forgot to use 'transcend' in some fashion. LOL!!!! |
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Jun-24-20 | | Howard: According to the above-posted Stockfish analysis Fischer had a lost position as late as the 38th move. |
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Jul-16-22 | | nezhmet: Fischer's play was complete bluff, 15...Nf2+ 16. Ke2 Nxh1 17. d4 f6! ends the game quickly. It was crazy of Matulovic to avoid this obvious fork. |
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