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Svetozar Gligoric vs Robert James Fischer
Leipzig ol (Men) fin-A (1960), Leipzig GDR, rd 4, Oct-31
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Ragozin Defense (E46)  ·  1-0


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Nov-17-04  drukenknight: November/Nimzoindian month. Wow! In the old days, Bobby was really bad at these. 24...a5 would have been really interesting; it was insane to open up the game with the R stuck like that, 26...Qh4 seems best right there.

It's all hideous: 29...Qxe3+ "Hello, Bobby. Anybody in there?"

Look up the Petrosian game for more of this. He is definitely raw the way he refuses to exchange the B in both games.

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  beatgiant: <drukenknight>:
I think we have to go back a bit farther to find improvements for Black. For example, instead of 13...♗d6? he might try 13...♘b4 14. ♗b1 c5 .

<24...a5 would have been really interesting>

25. ♗b2 ♖f8 26. ♖dc1 looks like a powerful threat, which is probably why Black tries the desperate counterattack with 24...♘f7 and 25...♖g6 .

<it was insane to open up the game with the R stuck like that, 26...Qh4 seems best right there.>

Then White might play 27. ♖c7 ♖b8 28. ♗d4 ♗a8 29. ♔h1 . Black's counterplay still fizzles out after 29...♖g3 30. ♕xa6 or 29...♕g3 30. ♖d2 .

<It's all hideous: 29...Qxe3+ "Hello, Bobby. Anybody in there?">

Bobby probably saw something like 29...♕xe3+ 30. ♔h2 ♖xf5 31. ♕xg6 ♖f7 32. ♖f1 ♖e7 33. ♖cf4 ♘h7 34. ♖f7 . What did you see?

Nov-19-04  maoam: <beatgiant>

29...Qxe3 30.Kh1 winning the exchange would be an improvement over 29...Qxe3 30.Kh2 when 30...Nf3! 31.Qxf3 (31.Kh1? Qe2 32.Qxf3 Qxc4) 32.gxf3 Rxf5 leaves White with the choice of losing either the pawn on f3 or the pawn on d5.

Nov-19-04  drukenknight: 29...Qxe3+ was bestI could come up with for a last chance effort, I dont know if it saves the game but it seemed worthy enuf to make comment, the last several moves seemed like Bobby had lost the thread there are probably other moves later but it looks bad.

24...a5 produced a different line w/ chesslab computer, which starts with 25 b5 or something, I think it should hold.

I'll get back to you (have a new PC to deal with) all. It will be interesting to see if the Qxe3 line can hold...

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  beatgiant: <maoam>
Sorry I missed your 30...♘f3!} ♗ut simply 29...♕xe3+ 30. ♔h1 ♖xf5 31. ♕xg6 ♖f7 32. ♖dc1 ♕e8 and only now 33. ♔h2! , it's hard to prevent White from breaking through with ♖f1 or ♖c7 . I really doubt Black can last very long.

24...a5 threatens ...♗a6 , which explains why your computer plays 25. b5 . I'd be interested in seeing the saving line you discovered with your computer.

Another attempted improvement is 25...♘e5 . If White replies 26. ♗xe5 ♕xe5 27. ♖c7 ♖f7 28. ♖xf7 ♔xf7 29. ♖c1 ♗xd5 I don't see an immediate win for White, and Black has a pawn for his troubles.

Mar-16-05  InspiredByMorphy: <beatgiant> <13. ... Nb4 14. Bb1 c5> is an improvement. White can continue with 15. a3 cxd4 16. Nxd4 Nbd5 17. e4 with an almost equal position. I say almost because of whites isolated pawns, and more mobility from the black pieces.
Mar-16-05  InspiredByMorphy: <beatgiant> An improvement for white would have been 13.a3
Jul-07-09  parisattack: In I Play Against Pieces Gligoric annotates this game, #64.

After 9 ...Bd6 he gives 9. ...a6 as better, then 10. h3! After 25. ...Rg6(?) Gligoric suggests 25. ...Ne5 with equal chances.

11. ...b5 was Fischer's improvement on his game earlier in the year against Taimanov where he played 11. ... Bd6. Gligo rarely avoided a prepared line. If he liked a variation he put his trust into it until proven otherwise.

Gligoric was 4-6-6 against Fischer and notes that he played him mostly when Fischer was quite young. He says the only time he outplayed Fischer in the opening was Monte Carlo 1967 - and he lost.

Feb-27-12  drukenknight: Hello BG: with the help of chesslab pc we attempt to continue our save with 29...Qxe3+ and come up with this crazy line:

30. Kh1 Rxf5
31. Qxg6 Rf7
32. Rdc1 Qe8
33. Qxd6 Qe2
34. Bd4 Nxh3
35. Qg6 Nf2+
36. Bxf2 Qxf2
37. Re4 Re7
38. Kh2 Rxe4
39. Qxe4 Qf7
40. Rc5 Qh5+
41. Kg3

OK? So at least we meet the time control and Fischer needs to seal his move...

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  plang: The setup with 6..Nc6 (the Taimanov variation) was used by Fischer several times early in his career. Gligoric considered 25..Rg6? to be the losing move; better was 24..Ne5 with equality. Fischer may have overlooked 32 Re4! counting on 32 Qe6+..Qxe6 37 dxe..Nf2 38 Rg1..Ng4+ with a likely draw.

This variation is interesting leading to sharp, double-edged positions but is rarely played nowadays.

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