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Werner Hug vs Vlastimil Hort
"Where Does It Hort?" (game of the day Apr-20-2010)
Chess Olympiad Final-A (1972), Skopje MKD, rd 14, Oct-11
Queen's Indian Defense: Classical. Traditional Variation (E17)  ·  0-1
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Aug-26-08
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  Fusilli: You guys are right that Hug played rather passive, but it sounds a bit like you are not quite crediting Hort for a well-conceived and powerful attack: 20...g4!, 24...Bxh4!! The latter is a demolishing move, and maybe it is not easy to see (consider that you have to see the whole followup in order to play it confidently). If it weren't for that move, it looks like white's next move would be Rf1 and black looks only slightly better, if better at all (remember that the black knight is pinned). But of course, a GM would see Bxh4, perhaps in just seconds. I'm sure Hort had been working toward it, of course.
Jul-04-09  WhiteRook48: clever sacrifices
Apr-20-10
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  arsen387: one got to have some outstanding imagination to see an attack like this starting with Bxh4 over the board
Apr-20-10
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  kevin86: A good game (and pun) to embrace.
Apr-20-10  lzromeu: B. hotly hugs the king
Apr-20-10  Riverbeast: As the Dentist said "This won't Hort a bit....

You're just going to feel a SLIGHT pressure....."

Apr-20-10  Deji: How about "A hog for someone that hort"
Dec-16-10  uscfratingmybyear: Strong play from a contemporary of Spassky and Fischer, it would be great to see a bit more dressing on his CG bio.
Nov-10-12
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  kingscrusher: This got the "best game prize" for the 1972 Chess Olympiad. See:

http://www.olimpbase.org/1972/1972i...

Dec-08-13
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  diagonalley: i failed to see 25... R-B6! ... brilliant
Dec-08-13
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  gofer: I can see that Rf7 is our "main man". He is beautifully positioned, he is expendable, he is supported by his twin. But how to use him most efficiently. I first looked at Rf2+, but that seems a little pedestrian...

<24 ... Rf3!>

Nice! The white queen is trapped!

25 Qxe4? Qxe4
25 Qxf3? gxf3+
25 e3? Rxg3+
25 Ne3? Rxg3+

<25 exf3 gxf3+>
<26 Qxf3 Rxf3>
<27 Kxf3 ...>

Now for the tricky bit?!

<27 ... Nxg3>

That seems to tick a lot of boxes...

I suppose we follow up with e4+ and Bxh5 etc until
we have all the troops aligned...

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Hmmm, okay I got the move order wrong AND it didn't see the nice finish with Rf2, <24 ... Bxh4> sufficiently weakens the kings defenses that <26 exf3> isn't playable! Which is why <24 ... Bxh4> is the right move and <24 ... Rf3> is worse!

But is <24 ... Rf3> still winning - anyone?!

Dec-08-13  abuzic: 24...?
The puzzle could have been 23...?
a move earlier <23...Rf3!> was winning
Dec-08-13
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  morfishine: I also went with <24...Rf3> and think the following move order is simplest:

24...Rf3 25.exf3 gxf3+ 26.Qxf3 Rxf3 27.Kxf3 Nxg3 (There's no reason to give up the Knight with 27...Qxg3+ 28.Kxe4) 28.Ne3 Bxh4


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I never considered 24...Bxh4

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<gofer> A few posts earlier (but from 2005), <patzer2> confirms 24...Rf3 is also winning: Hug vs Hort, 1972

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Dec-08-13
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  Penguincw: 24...Bxh4 was one my first move guesses (along with 24...Rf2+).
Dec-08-13  Nick46: Let's not ignore Vlastimil; it's no run-of-the-mill name either.
Dec-08-13
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  morfishine: Hug embraced a passive variation, lost his grip and wasn't able to hold

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Dec-08-13
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  agb2002: The material is identical.

The square g3 is weak and all five pieces are ready to attack. Since the less useful piece seems to be the bishop, it looks logical 24... Bxh4:

A) 25.gxh4 Rf3

A.1) 26.exf3 gxf3+ 27.Kf1 (else 27... Qg2#) 27... Qg2+ 28.Ke1 f2+ 29.Ke2 (29.Bxf2 Qxf2#) 29... f1=N+ 30.Bf2 Qxf2#.

A.2) 26.e3 Rg3+ 27.Kh1 (27.Kh2 Qh5 28.Kh1 Qxh4+ 29.Bh2 Nf2#) 27... Rf2 28.Ne1 (28.Bxf2 Nxf2+ 29.Kh2 Rh3+ 30.Kg2 Nxd3 - + [Q+P vs R]; 28.Qxe4 Qxe4#) 28... Rh3+ 29.Bh2 Rfxh2+ 30.Kg1 Rh1+ 31.Kg2 R3h2#.

A.3) 26.Ne3 Rg3+ 27.Kh1 (27.Kh2 Qh5 28.Kh1 Qxh4+ 29.Bh2 Nf2#) 27... Rf2 looks similar to A.2.

A.4) 26.Be3 Rg3+ 27.Kh1(2) Qh5 followed by 28... Qxh4#.

A.5) 26.Qxe4 Qxe4 27.exf3 Qxf3+ 28.Kh2 Qh3#.

B) 25.Bh2 Rf2+ 26.Kg1 (26.Kh1 Rxh2+ 27.Kxh2 transposes to B.2) 26... Rxh2

B.1) 27.gxh4 Rxh2 and Black keeps the attack with two extra pawns.

B.2) 27.Kxh2 Bxg3+ 28.Qxg3 (28.Kg1 Qh5 - +; 28.Kg2 Qh5 29.Rh1 Rf2+ 30.Kg1 Bh2+ 31.Rxh2 Qxh2#) 28... Nxg3 29.Kxg3 Qe4 - + [Q+2P vs R+N] (30.Rf1 Rxf1 31.Rxf1 Qxc2).

Dec-08-13  abuzic: <patzer2: Just completed the following analysis of Hug Werner - Hort Vlastimil [E18] Skopje Skopje, 1972, with Fritz 8. Most of the analysis is Fritz, but the verbal commentary is mine.>

Some remarks on Fritz analysis dated 2005:

First: (23.Nc2 Raf8)
Could add this comment: <23...Rf3! 24.exf3 gxf3+ 25.Kf1 Qxg3 26.Ne1 Qh3+ 27.Kg1 Kh8> should win outright>

Second: (24.Bg1?? <This unforced move creates an awful obstruction. Instead, White can put up resistance and perhaps survive after 24.dxe5 dxe5>)

Here more accurate would be: <Instead, white can put up some resistance after 24.Rf1 Rxf1 25.Rxf1 26.Kxf1 Nxg3+ 27.Kg2 e4 28.Qd2 Nf5, but still facing great difficulties; (24.dxe5 loses after 24...Rf3 25.exf3 gxf3+ 26.Kh1 Nxg3+ 27.Kh2 Qg4 28.Rd2 Qxh4+ Kg1 29.Qh1+ Kf2 30.Ne4+ Qxe4 31.Bh4+ Qxh4 32.Qxh4+)>

Dec-08-13
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  fm avari viraf: Great game & my pun is "Give me a Hort Hug baby".
Dec-08-13  RandomVisitor: After 23.Nc2


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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[-3.73] d=17 23...Rf3!> 24.Qxe4 Qxe4 25.exf3 Qxf3+ 26.Kh2 Qe2+ 27.Kg1 Rf8 28.Rd2 Qxc4 29.Bxh6 Rf3 30.Rg2 Kh7 31.Bd2 Qd3 32.Ne1 Qxd4+ 33.Kh2 Bxh4 34.Nxf3 gxf3 35.Rxc7+ Kg6 36.Bc3 Qg4

Dec-08-13  RandomVisitor: After 21...e5


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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[+0.00] d=18 22.dxe5> dxe5 23.c5 Nxe4 24.cxb6 axb6 25.Nd3 Nc3 26.Qxc3 Qe4+ 27.Kh2 Qxe3 28.Qxe5 Rf2+ 29.Kh1 Qxe5 30.Nxe5 Rxe2 31.Nxg4 h5 32.Re1 Rxe1+ 33.Rxe1 Bd8 34.Ne3 Rxa2 35.Nd5 Rxb2 36.Re8+ Kf7 37.Rxd8

Dec-08-13  abuzic: <RandomVisitor: After 23.Nc2

<[-3.73] d=17 23...Rf3!> 24.Qxe4 Qxe4 25.exf3 Qxf3+ 26.Kh2 Qe2+ 27.Kg1 Rf8 28.Rd2 Qxc4 29.Bxh6 Rf3 30.Rg2 Kh7 31.Bd2 Qd3 32.Ne1 Qxd4+ 33.Kh2 Bxh4 34.Nxf3 gxf3 35.Rxc7+ Kg6 36.Bc3 Qg4>

23...Rf3! wins, but on move 26, instead of 26...Qe2+ black has a strong move <26...Bxh4!> 27.gxg4 exd4 28.Rd2 exd4 29.Bxh6 Qh3+ 30.Kg1 Rf3 31.Rh2 Qg3+ 32.Rg2 Qxh4 black has no defence against ...Qh3, ...Rh3, ...d3, ....

Dec-08-13  mel gibson: A fascinating game.
According to Deep Rybka4 64 bit on my i7 quad core move 22. (2 minutes)

White should have played d4 x e5.
Black 22... d6 x e5.

It then gives a draw: value = 0.00.

The game was so finely balanced that the
one wrong move 22 Qd3 lost the game.

Dec-08-13  barryh1976: That was nasty!
Dec-08-13  Patriot: Material is even. I don't see any threats by white except 25.Rf1 defending, possibly going into an even game. But black must be better (not just because it's a <CG> problem) because of his domination down the f-file and black's pieces swarming all around the white king.

There are several candidates here: Rf2+, Rf3, Bxh4, Nxg3.

24...Rf2+ 25.Bxf2 Rxf2+ Kg1 - Here I was hard pressed to find anything, so this move is eliminated.

24...Nxg3 25.Qxg3 just doesn't seem right.

24...Rf3 25.exf3 Rxf3

26.Qxf3 exf3+ 27.Kxf3 Qxg3+ 28.Kxe4 doesn't look right.

26.Qxf3 exf3+ 27.Kxf3 Nxg3 (2 rooks for queen and a pawn and soon another pawn.)

26.Qe2 Rxg3+ 27.Kh1 Rh3+ 28.Kg2 could draw since 28...Rg3+ 29.Kf1 Qf4+ 30.Be2 Rf3 threatening 31...Ng3+ winning.

24...Bxh4 25.gxh4 Rf3 26.exf3 gxf3++ 27.Kf1 Qg2+ 28.Ke2 Qxg1+ 29.Nf1 Qf2#

24...Bxh4 25.gxh4 Rf3 26.Ne3 Rxg3+ 27.Kh1 Rf2 looks like a total invasion.

24...Bxh4 25.gxh4 Rf3 26.Be3 Rxg3+ 27.Kh2 Rf2+ 28.Bxf2 Rxd3 29.Rxd3 Nxf2 (2 rooks for queen + pawn)

24...Bxh4 25.gxh4 Rf3 26.Be3 Rxg3+ 27.Kh1 Nf2+ 28.Bxf2 Rxd3 29.Rxd3 Rxf2 (knight + rook for queen + pawn)

I spent a lot of time on this and had a really tough time visualizing and counting pieces!

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