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Boris Spassky vs Anatoly Karpov
Hamburg (1982), Hamburg FRG
King's Gambit: Accepted. Fischer Defense (C34)  ·  1-0
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Mar-13-14
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  perfidious: <keypusher: The real problem with the Evans is that you don't get to play it. Not all that many people play 1...e5 to begin with, and those that do generally prefer 3....Nf6 in my experience.>

Though I often played 1....e5, the Two Knights was always my preference; never tried 3....Bc5.

<....Steinitz kept the Evans in business an extra 20 years with his horrible defenses.>

Then Lasker put it out of business with his.

Mar-13-14
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  Petrosianic: <I've said this before, but Steinitz kept the Evans in business an extra 20 years with his horrible defenses.>

Well, that may well be true. I don't know if I've ever mentioned this, and you probably know these games already, but I have a perverse fascination with the 1889 World Championship. At least the games in which Steinitz was black (the ones where he had White were quiet positional squeezes).

But the games in which Steinitz was black are like the proverbial watching a train wreck. You can't bear to look but you can't bear to look away either, when you see his whole army squeezed agaiunst the back rank, white pawn on d6, black Queen boxed in on b8. It's horrific. And I love it.

The fact that he only scored -1 against the Evans is a tribute to Steinitz, not his openings. He should have lost at least 2 of the ones he won, as well as the one he drew.

Mar-13-14
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  perfidious: One rather doubts that even so formidable a defender as Korchnoi would have tried his hand at some of those abominations when facing the Evans, and he was the exponent of heroic defence.
Mar-13-14
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  Petrosianic: Korchnoi was heroic defense, Steinitz was bat*** insane defence.

Here's another good one.

Blackburne vs Steinitz, 1876

And he played this same line against Blackburne three times, and won all three games.

Mar-13-14
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  perfidious: In the early nineties, looked at 4....Qh4 a bit, but could never convince myself it was worthwhile to have a go at it. Stayed with 4....Bc5 vs the Scotch.
Mar-13-14
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  Petrosianic: I don't face the Scotch much. I like 4... Bc5 too, but I've occasionally gotten a little pressured by White forcing the Bishop to b6, advancing the a pawn, to force Black to play a6, and then having to deal with the threat of Bxb6 cxb6, which would be ugly for Black. It's avoidable, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it the most efficient way. I think I need to study the line some more.
Mar-21-15
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  FSR: <keypusher> But the Evans did play a decisive role at Hastings. Pillsbury faced it twice, and won both times. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... He only won the tournament by half a point, so both wins were critical to his success.
Mar-22-15
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  keypusher: <FSR: <keypusher> But the Evans did play a decisive role at Hastings. Pillsbury faced it twice, and won both times. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... He only won the tournament by half a point, so both wins were critical to his success.>

Well, by that logic each opening in Pillsbury's fifteen wins played a decisive role at Hastings. :-)

It's interesting to compare how the three leaders did against the Evans. Tarrasch sniffed at Lasker for declining the gambit <although he has declared that he knows a winning defence>, but it worked out pretty well:

W Pollock vs Lasker, 1895

Chigorin faced the Evans twice. He won an exciting game against Pollock (W Pollock vs Chigorin, 1895) but blundered into a draw in a totally won position against Bird (Bird vs Chigorin, 1895).

Chigorin was the only one of the three who played the Evans as White, of course. He scored an anemic +1-1=0.

Chigorin vs Gunsberg, 1895

Chigorin vs Steinitz, 1895

So maybe the Evans Gambit really did play a decisive role in this tournament...

At Hastings Pillsbury got a lot of attention for playing the odd "Stone-Ware" defense, as in this nice win over Schiffers.

Schiffers vs Pillsbury, 1895

The following year at Nuremberg he played an inferior countergambit against the same opponent and lost an important game.

Schiffers vs Pillsbury, 1896

Mar-23-15
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  FSR: <keypusher> I hadn't realized that Chigorin had lost an Evans to Steinitz at this tournament. As you've demonstrated, the Evans was even more important to the tournament standings than I'd thought.
Mar-10-16  not not: Spassky should have write a book called "How to play inferior opening vs top rated players... and get away with a win! featuring Fisher, Karpov and other so called greatest"
Mar-11-16
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  perfidious: <not not: Spassky should have write a book called "How to play inferior opening vs top rated players... and get away with a win! featuring Fisher, Karpov and other so called greatest">

Yeah, none of those titans could play.

You might have mentioned that Spassky was clearly worse against Fischer in the middlegame before the latter blundered.

Mar-11-16
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  Rookiepawn: Back to the KG, it seems KG has been thoroughly analyzed with a cluster of engines and the conclusion is that with perfect play it only renders a draw for White.

I think that from a practical point of view it still can be played against humans.

http://en.chessbase.com/post/rajlic...

Mar-11-16  Bobby Spassky: Dear Rookiepawn:,

Did you notice this was posted near April fool's day?

Mar-11-16  RookFile: I know a 2100 player who said that he played the King's Gambit for 20 years in tournament play. He says that the only line he never saw was the classic "main line" that was all the rage in the 1800's.
Mar-15-16
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  Rookiepawn: <Bobby Spassky: Dear Rookiepawn:, Did you notice this was posted near April fool's day?>

Call me a fool, but "near" is not the day itself. And the note seems pretty long for a joke.

Mar-15-16  disasterion: <Rookiepawn> Chessbase did their best to make it as convincing as possible. Have a look at this:

http://en.chessbase.com/post/the-ch...

Mar-20-16  not not: perfidious: <not not: Spassky should have write a book called "How to play inferior opening vs top rated players... and get away with a win! featuring Fisher, Karpov and other so called greatest"> Yeah, none of those titans could play.

You might have mentioned that Spassky was clearly worse against Fischer in the middlegame before the latter blundered.

i did say it by using "inferior" - he was worse vs Karpov too most of the game;

whether he could get away with it (being pawn down and worse position in middle game) vs Lasker, Capa, or Alekhine, I am not that sure

Apr-29-16
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  Rookiepawn: <disasterion: <Rookiepawn> Chessbase did their best to make it as convincing as possible. Have a look at this: http://en.chessbase.com/post/the-ch...

April's Fool is not anymore what it used to be.

Oct-15-16  Allanur: King's Gambit is reckoned weak opening, it is assumed that black will be ahead with accepting the pawn. Boris used it very well against top players.

I once set my droidfish to play this opening. The initial board was: 1.e4- e5 2.f4 played and it was black to move. The time was 120 minutes plus 60 seconds increment. Black won.

Nov-04-16
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  Petrosianic: So, where exactly does Black go wrong here? Just from a quick play-through, I'm assuming it's 41...b5. There's no way he's worse at Move 40.
Nov-04-16
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  Petrosianic: Yeah, b5 is the lemon. Black wins fairly easily with something like 41...Ra1. Not sure how Black makes a mistake like this on Move 41.

Although Black surely isn't lost even after b5. In fact, I'd swear Black isn't lost until his very last move. After 83...Kd6, I don't see any clear followup for White.

Nov-04-16  Olavi: This tournament was a TV cup with one hour games. According to the tny book Karpov had less than 2 minutes already after move 23.
Feb-05-18  Nic Olas: I have just found and watched the rapid tiebreak to this tv tournament between Boris Spassky and Anatoly Karpov. It is really entertaining and shows how far chess broadcasting has come since then https://youtu.be/-kzM1syPiuY
Feb-06-18
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  WorstPlayerEver: Let's see what happened here; chessbase dot com managed to find the dumbest sheet and then posted a pic of them and his waif.
Jun-18-18  Omnipotent00001: 44...Kb6 draws.
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