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Garry Kasparov vs Guy West
"Guy Foxed" (game of the day Nov-05-12)
telex 1977  ·  Sicilian Defense: Pin. Koch Variation (B40)  ·  1-0
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  twin phoenix: Thanks <Keypusher> for the post of wests comments, it's very funny! reminded me of Tal explaining why he'd lost to Botvinick on his return. "I had finnally determined on which pencil was lucky but then lost it after i had won..."
Mar-10-11  MaxxLange: 8...Bg8

Why would anyone play this? Why not play 8....Be7, which is the main line, as far as I know?

The only possible purpose seems to be, to defend the g7 point against White's Qg4. That's a very passive idea. Black has at least that whole thing where they castle and offer an Exchange Sac, in this Pin Variation line, not ....Bf8

Mr West himself has explained his thought process here...priceless....he was basically playing positional coffee house blitz on the Telex, against teenage Gazza

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  Patriot: 11.Nxe6 is clearly winning.

A) 11...fxe6 12.Qh5+

A.1) 12...Ke7 13.Bg5+ Nf6 14.exf6+

A.1.1 14...gxf6 15.Bxf6+ Kxf6 16.Qh4+ and 17.Qxd8

A.1.2 14...Kd7 15.fxg7

A.2) 12...g6 13.Bxg6+ hxg6 14.Qxg6+ Ke7 15.Bg5+ Nf6 16.Qxf6+

B) 11...Qe7 12.Nc7+

C) 11...Qb6/Qa5 12.Nc7+! since if 12...Qxc7 13.exd6+ Kd8 14.dxc7+ ; otherwise white at least wins the rook.

Mar-11-11  Damianx: Estrik the Super Bowl is watched country wide Aussie rules is played & watched by a couple of states its like ice hockey in the US. i live in N.S.W.& would rather spend the after noon hanging by my thumbs than watch Aussie Rules p.s. he was trying to be amusing not make excuses
May-03-11  adhitthana: <estrick:And it's hard to imagine how you would find enough players who would be willing to participate in a match scheduled simultaneously with the biggest sporting event of the year. > It's only the biggest sporting event if you're from melb (well a few other places too). Australia has no national game,and even less so in thise days. There would have been little interest in that game in say ,Sydney. And in those days the rugby league Gf would have been on a different day.
May-03-11  adhitthana: Of course, had they scheduled the game for 3 pm on the first Tuesday in November no Australian would have shown up :P
Dec-21-11  King Death: < Once: <"La Pasión del Ajedrez"> Now, doesn't that sound sexier than anything the English language can manage?>

This reminds me of a novel I read a long time ago, where the protagonist had the name George. During World War II, he fought in Italy and got involved with a woman who always called him "Giorgio." To him this sounded much more romantic than plain old George.

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  MarkFinan: Bf8?? Is a really weird move by black, but Kasparov really punished this guy, and loved that Nxc6 at the end, I was looking for something completely different, but that move and game must have completely demoralised !!
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  MarkFinan: Nxc7 should I say!
Jul-05-12  RookFile: This shows what a bad game Kasparov's 19 move loss to Deep Blue was. Kasparov made a similar opening error.
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  MarkFinan: What he played Bf8 on move 8 ??
Don't think Kasparovs ever played this bad!
Jul-08-12  RookFile: You didn't suggest an alternative. What would you play instead of 8....Bf8?

Suppose you play 8....Be7 and white goes 9. Qg4.

Isn't this bad for black?

Jul-09-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Kasparov vs G West, 1977.
Your score: 21 (par = 15)


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  Phony Benoni: OK, I got this one:

Note that it is observed on November 5.

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  lost in space: Nice tactical shot of the young Kasparov!
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  Infohunter: What a burn!
Nov-05-12  Octal: Remember, remember the 5th of November.
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  Abdel Irada: <MarkFinan>: If I'm not mistaken, 8. ...Bf8 is actually a book move in the Koch Variation, with the idea of removing the sting from a subsequent Qg4, by analogy with 5. Bf1 in the Ulvestad Variation Two Knights'.

Black's decisive mistake appears to have been 10. ...Nd7. He could perhaps have survived with 10. ...dxe5 or even 10. ...Nc6, but with the text he removed a crucial defender from his e6 pawn, offering Kasparov the chance to play the tactic we saw in the game.

Nov-05-12  Tired Tim: Good gracious! A quotation for GOTD that starts on this side of the pond! Does it travel west? Clearly Octal and PB are tuned in.

(More cucumber sandwiches anyone?)

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  kevin86: The GUNPOWDER PLOT:1605 on 11/5.

West goes west.

Nov-05-12  Tired Tim: <The GUNPOWDER PLOT:1605 on 11/5>?! Oh please! It's our plot ... on 5/11.
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  Abdel Irada: Eleven-five, five-eleven ... let's call the whole thing off.
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  kevin86: The date order is interesting as the famous days in German History in 1923 and 1989 were both 9/11 (9 November)
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  Abdel Irada: I wonder when — or if — the world will come to some sort of understanding about date order. At present, the conflicting systems lead to constant confusion. I doubt it's led to any serious problems, but it remains annoying.
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  FSR: <Abdel Irada> Yes, 8...Bf8 has been played in other games, albeit with uninspiring results. Opening Explorer It's definitely preferable to the 8...0-0 of Sznapik vs J Barle, 1981.
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