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Vladimir Kramnik vs Alexey Shirov
Bundesliga (1992/93), GER, rd 6
King's Indian Defense: Saemisch Variation. Normal Defense (E81)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Dec-23-09  KingG: A short, but theoretically very important game. Black introduces the move 12...Nb4!, improving on 12...Bxd5 as played in Kramnik vs Nunn, 1992. The final position is actually probably slightly better for Black, despite the pawn defcit. For example, in 2000 Fritz lost to Har-Zvi from this position: Fritz vs R Har-Zvi, 2000.
Dec-04-10  KingG: My mistake. In the Fritz vs Har-Zvi game, White played 16.Kf2 instead of 16.Kd2, which makes a big difference to the way Black can play.
Dec-04-10  goldenbear: Very interesting... thanks <KingG>
Dec-04-10  acme: Why, though, would Shirov introduce a novelty and accept a draw 6 moves later?
Dec-05-10  rilkefan: <Why, though, would Shirov introduce a novelty and accept a draw 6 moves later?> Shirov was playing black against Kramnik, of whom he writes (in discussing this very game) in _Fire On Board_, "his play, especially with White, was already terrifying". An easy draw with Black against a strong opponent is a fine thing.

This game practically spelled the end of this line (and seems like all other lines) of the Saemisch at top levels.

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