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Jan Timman vs William James Lombardy
Amsterdam IBM (1974), Amsterdam NED, rd 12, Jul-30
Spanish Game: Schliemann Defense. Dyckhoff Variation (C63)  ·  0-1
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Oct-11-04  Nezhmetdinov: They really go at it here - Timman seems to feature in many exciting games, on either side - I reckon he has a slightly bohemian attitude to Chess - apparantly he thinks up his most interesting ideas, including a queen for bishop & knight sac, in the bath.
Mar-03-06  Sirthursday: Is 5...Nd4 sound? Black gets castled quickly, but is now two pawns down. I can see him eventually retaking on f5, but I don't see much in the way of compensation for the pawn after 9.Qxf3.

Another question: why 10.Bd3? White has no need to try and hold onto the f5 pawn as he would still be a pawn up. Surely it would be better to wait for Black's inevitable c6 and retreat in true Ruy Lopez style back to b3? This would leave his dark squared bishop free to develop along the c1-h6 diagonal and possibly give him some pressure on the d5 pawn.

Feb-22-14
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  wwall: Instead of 33.Rxh6, which loses, doesn't 33.Qc8+ lead to perpetual check?
Feb-23-14  Shams: <wwall> Doesn't Black escape checks after 33...Kg7 34.Qd7+ Qf7<?>
Feb-23-14
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  wwall: 33.Qc8 Kg7 34.Qxb7+ [34.Rxg5+ Qxg5 35.Qd7+ Kf8 36.Qc8+ Kg7 37.Qd7+ is perpetual check] 34...Kg6 [34...Qf7 35.Rxg5+ hxg5 36.Qxf7+ Kxf7 37.Nxe3 looks good for White] 35.Nxe3 Kxh5 36.Qxa7 Kg6 37.Qd7 Bd5 38.Qe8+ Kg7 39.Nxd5 Qa1+ 40.Kf2 Qxa2+ 41.Qe2 may win for White.
Oct-14-17
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  Stonehenge: Photo:

http://images.memorix.nl/naa/thumb/...

Oct-14-17  Retireborn: <Stonehenge> Nice photo, interesting clock times (perhaps Lombardy was a little late in arriving, or perhaps he was wondering if he could get away with the Schliemann.)
Oct-14-17
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  zanzibar: I play the Schliemann sometimes at blitz - if only to avoid the Exchange variation (which is designed for slow play, imo).

4...Nf6 wouldn't be my first choice, I think 4...fxe4 is more popular.

Looking at <CG> it gives 4...fxe4 (547) vs. 4...Nf6 (150). White scores about the same, but Black draws less with the latter (33% vs 22%).

Then, 5...Nd4 is #3 line for both <MillBase> tree and <CG>. But <CG> really dislikes Black's chances, giving White a 75% chance of winning vs. (only) 57% for 5...e4. One should note that the stats are kinda low for any definitive conclusions.

I think pushing the e-pawn to e4 is the somewhat thematic response to White's exf4, so Lombardy must have been trying to steer the game out of normal channels.

If you ask an engine, it actually thinks 5...Nd4 is quite playable, maybe even the best move in that position. The eval of +0.77/28 suggests Black gets a lot of compensation for the two pawns:


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Oct-14-17
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  zanzibar: <Sirthursday> Also, why 10.Bd3 is a good question that would take some serious calculation on the board. But since I have an engine let me cheat and offer this conjecture:

10.Bd3 isn't just about the f-pawn, but also prevents 10...Ne4. The centralized knight is very bothersome - if NxN then PxN gains a tempo, and eventually the bishop takes on f5. And if the knight isn't taken Black can exchange it and double up White's pawns (and probably still pick up the f-pawn).

Oct-14-17
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  zanzibar: Playing over the game with SF, here's a critical position for White

(White to move after 26...Bd6xf4)


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It's sharp, White can maintain a winning advantage or other play for just a draw.

Oct-14-17  Retireborn: 26...Bxf4 was a time trouble blunder, according to Informator. Probably he (both?)overlooked that after 27.g3 Be3+ 28.Nxe3 Rxf1+ White can recapture with the knight.

The Informator annotator (Minic) recommends 26...h6, not noticing that it allows 27.Rxh6!

Houdini doesn't find anything better than 26...Qf7 27.Nf2 Rxf4 28.Qh5 g6 and it's not clear that Black has sufficient compensation for the exchange.

Still, as sometimes happens, it's the player not in time trouble who becomes confused, and Timman also misses 30.Rxh6! and 33.Qc8+!

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