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Milan Vidmar vs Geza Maroczy
"Opposites Detract" (game of the day Jul-25-08)
Slovakia 1932  ·  Tarrasch Defense: Classical Variation. Classical Tarrasch Gambit (D34)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Jul-25-08  vikinx: This opposite coloured bishop endgame was a draw even though White was three pawns up.
Jul-25-08  tomfoolery: Surely it wasn't a draw when the endgame started. There are only a very few collection of three pawns up positions that are drawn. Surely White can push his d-pawn somewhere.
Jul-25-08  Lutwidge: I think my favorite move in this game is 126. Bc7! establishing a bishops of SAME color endgame for a brief but wondrous moment. It's almost as if they were anticipating that someone with a computer 70+ years later would scroll through the bishops of opposite color endgame and, near the end, be very surprised to discover White's light squared bishop having somehow turned to the dark side. :)
Jul-25-08  RedStarRising: <Whitehat1963: What's the follow-up to 32. Nxf5?? I'm sure it's instant death somehow, but I can't see it> and < tpstar: 32. Nxf5!? Rxg2+! 33. Kxg2 Qe4+ 34. Kg1 Qxf5 winning two pieces for a Rook, plus wide open lines toward White's King.>

32. Nxf5? is a critical blunder indeed, (and hence thus not deserve the notification "!?")...Rxg2+! 33. Kxg2. <tpstar> has wrongly listed the continuation... Obviously, it has to be 33...Qd5+, and NOT Qe4+ (as given above), followed by loss of Nf5.

Jul-25-08  randzo: it was play in SLovakia!!!
Jul-25-08  Nikita Smirnov: Dosen't 57.d4 work?
Jul-25-08
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  Once: I wonder - at what point in this game do both players realise that it is a draw and then play for laughs?

As far as I can see, the underpromotions don't serve a serious purpose. White has no way of winning.

So we have two successive underpomotions, followed by white refusing the offer a bishop (126. Bc7 instead of 126. Bxd8), followed by two king moves which leave the c7 bishop en prise.

And all the time it is nothing but a draw!

Jul-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: What a dog! White cannot win despite being three pawns ahead. Yes,he promotes twice to a bishop.

In the end,black is a bishop ahead-so what!

Jul-25-08  patzer2: Black's 35...Qe5! seems to me to be a significant defensive move in transitioning this game into a drawish opposite color Bishop ending.

It can be difficult to win these, even with a sifniicant pawn majority.

Jul-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: Opposites Intact.
Jul-25-08  wanabe2000: Opposites subtract.
Jul-25-08
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  chessgames.com: <Opposites Subtract.> <Opposites Intact.> We considered both of those, as well as <Opposites Distract> but in the end we went with <Opposites Detract> because it was the most concise way to express the concept. Our puns are so bad, it takes a lot of effort to achieve this level of badness.
Jul-26-08
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  Calli: The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. - Neils Bohr
Dec-03-08  WhiteRook48: h8B! d8B!!
Dec-18-08  WhiteRook48: 3 dark-squared Bishops in the same game!!!! Weird.
1. The Bc1
2. The bishop who promoted on h8
3. The bishop who promoted on d8
Dec-22-08  WhiteRook48: I mean 4:
The fourth dark-squared bishop was the Bf8!!!
Dec-23-08  WhiteRook48: These bishop promotions are hilarious. Speaking of which, I wonder when <bishop> is going to kibitz here.
Dec-24-08  WhiteRook48: All these bishop moves... it's crazy! With all the bishops, you'd think it's bishop haven!! Hilarious endgame, what were these players doing?
Dec-29-08  WhiteRook48: 128...Bxc7 is a draw. Why 129. Kg4 when it's already a draw??
Jan-05-09  WhiteRook48: 127. Kxg5 is already a draw, so they decided to play 2 more moves!!
Jan-19-09  WhiteRook48: one can only just imagine if the players were laughing harder than ever after this...
Jan-31-09  WhiteRook48: it would be funny if after move 129 they played on for 50 more moves
Apr-12-09  AniamL: Isn't 106.h4 winning?
Jun-22-10  WhiteRook48: 106 h4?! Bf8!! 107 g5?! Bg7! white cannot dislodge the black king from e5. if 108 gxh6?! Bxh6! and there is no chance of getting through.
Sep-18-11  Beautiful.LMS: Why doesn't White play 10.Na4 and protect the pawn?
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