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Frank James Marshall vs Emanuel Lasker
"War Dance" (game of the day Jun-06-2016)
Lasker - Marshall World Championship Match (1907), USA, rd 1, Jan-26
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Nyholm Attack (C65)  ·  0-1


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  john barleycorn: Capablanca in his last lectures:
(my translation)

<That he (Lasker) was a great endgame player is undisputable; in fact he was the greatest endgame player I have known>

Apr-03-14  Conrad93: Then how does one explain his poor 1921 performance against Capablanca wherein he lost 4 games and drew the rest?
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  perfidious: Another red herring from the <Grand Maitre>.
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  john barleycorn: < Conrad93: Then how does one explain his poor 1921 performance against Capablanca wherein he lost 4 games and drew the rest?>

Lasker explained it with the tropical heat. I guess you can relate to that as you may have spent too much time outside when it was 110 in the shade.

Apr-03-14  Conrad93: <Another red herring from the <Grand Maitre>.

I don't think you know what a "red herring" is...

The comment was related to the topic.

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  Petrosianic: I've never heard Lasker offer any excuse at all. I heard Bernstein offer one for him, after Lasker was dead, but not Lasker himself.
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  john barleycorn: <Petrosianic> Lasker did so in news paper articles. Have to look for those. Here is Capablanca's reply:

< In his letter of 11 April, page 21, after he lost the tenth game, Dr Lasker complains of the sun. The games were played at night, between 9-0 and 1-0; the sun had been down for over two hours when play started! If during the day the sun bothered him, all he had to do was to stay at home and rest and wait for the late afternoon and early evening to go out.

Again in his letter of 18 April, page 24, he complains of the sun, and this time of the heat also. He claims for that afternoon a temperature of 32° C. in the shade. What a wonderful imagination!

Such temperatures do not exist in Cuba except in midsummer, in August, the hottest month of the year. He claims 29° C. at night, with fresh north wind. Again absurd. When the north wind blows in Cuba at that time of the year at night the temperature cannot be more than 20° C., and the probabilities are that the temperature would be below 20°>

Aug-18-14  Ke2: Fantastic endgame from 19 to 31, the initiative appears out of nowhere, I remember it from Capablanca's Fundamentals.
Aug-06-15  Volcach: With 14.... d4, Black is not threatening Qf2, rather he is threatening Bg4, followed by a Rook infiltration on f2 with tactics on the king to follow.

The endgame is very well played, Lasker's endgame skill was something to marvel.

Aug-06-15  Howard: Chervev's MIGOCEP has this game. That's how I first became acquainted with it.

That stands for, by the way, Most Instructive Games of Chess Every Played.

Nov-18-15  Makavelli II: <Dec-10-08 brimarern: 19...Rb8 IMHO is one of, if not THE, greatest move ever played> Sir. You have the intelligence of a GNAT!!! It's the most OBVIOUS looking move on the board!!
Apr-03-16  The Kings Domain: Good game. Marshall was completely outplayed here. Even Lasker's pawn placements were well done, stifling Marshall's attempts at making any headway. The German made the American look kinda amateurish.
May-21-16  PJs Studio: I thought 31...d3! Was lovely.
Pawn and Two: nice job on the analysis!
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: The Rook lift 19...Rb8-Rb5-Rh5 was brilliant in its very quiet way. Forcing b2-b3 takes away a great square for the Knight. Then the threat of ...Rb5-c5 forces c2-c4, putting another White pawn on a square of the same color as the Black Bishop and creates a passed d-pawn. Then ...Rh5 lures the King away from the center and gains a tempo for ...c6-c5, reinforcing the d4 pawn and threatening ...Bb7.

Lasker doesn't just get there fastest with the mostest, he does the mostest with the leastest.

Jun-06-16  Moszkowski012273: 15...Qh3 with the threat of 16...Rf2 is a bit deeper way to play the position.
Jun-06-16  pedro99: Marshall only managed to beat him once in games other than demos.
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  maxi: It seems to me that at the time of the Lasker-Capablanca match at Havana, Lasker believed Capablanca to be unbeatable. It is hard to play under such a preconception.
Jun-06-16  YetAnotherAmateur: I'm really quite confused about white's play from moves 8-11: White inexplicably trades away his only 2 developed pieces and several valuable tempi in favor of black's DSB, which he really really wants off the board for some reason.

Why isn't he trying some simple stuff like Bf4, Nc3, Qd3 followed by Nc3, and so forth?

And then he follows it up by handing black a passed pawn with 21. c4, for reasons that escape me.

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  kevin86: White cannot stop ALL of Lasker's pawns!
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  RookFile: Evidently Marshall thought black's pawns would be weak. The weren't, but if Lasker makes one slip, I could see white consolidating and even being better.
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  PawnSac: < Conrad93: Lasker's endgame skills were on par with Alekhine or Capablanca.

TheFocus: Actually, <Conrad93>, Lasker was much stronger in the endgame than either of them. Capablanca said Lasker was the strongest endgame player in the world. That still holds true today. No one has ever surpassed him. >

Capa's strength was in the MIDDLE game. His uncanny ability to see the fundamental elements of a position was unmatched. He could reduce a seemingly complex position to a simple won ending with amazing clarity. I think Alekhine was sharper in the opening than Capa.

Jun-06-16  AlicesKnight: <An Englishman> above is quite right on this game, and there is a nice little commentary in Abrahams' "Teach yourself chess" on the position at Black's 12 move in support. So too <PJs Studio>; the White N cannot move on the white squares, nor control the black ones as the BK invades.
Jun-06-16  devere: <maxi: It seems to me that at the time of the Lasker-Capablanca match at Havana, Lasker believed Capablanca to be unbeatable. It is hard to play under such a preconception.>

It is not only Lasker who may have fallen victim to the Havana climate. Grandmaster Boris Kostic had a record of +0 -0 =5 against Capablanca in Europe and the USA. In Havana his record was +0 -5 =0.

If Capablanca had insisted on always defending his title in Havana he might have held it for the rest of his life.

Jun-06-16  devere: Giving Lasker a protected passed pawn with 21.c4? was not a good idea.

After 21.Nd2 Rc5 22.Nc4 Be6 23. Ke2 Bxc4+ 24.bxc4 Rxc4 25.Kd3 it is a rather straightforward draw.

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  maxi: <devere> You are right, 21.c4 was a weak move. I must add that I believe that Capa was basically unbeatable in his early years.
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