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| May-09-04 |
| masterwojtek: You are saying Jewish but its just a religion, he might have been catholic as well, it does not add to the place where he was born |
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| May-10-04 |
| Everett: masterwojtek, chessical is just informing us of some background. I'm with you that Judaism is a religion, not a place (or a race), and that it in fact does not "add" to his "nationality," BUT I do think to not include their experiences in certain places due to their religious (sp?) background makes their nationality meaningless. |
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May-10-04
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| kevin86: I did mean WW I above-It was tragic what happened to the Jews before Hitler-it certainly was no bundle of laughs at any time,but before WW I it was the worst.Under Nicholas,the Oprichnina (secret police-some say were WORST that the gestapo)often rounded up Jews and sent them to the "pale of settlement". They were often killed on the way. The Jews are both a nation and a state today-ISRAEL. |
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May-10-04
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| acirce: A state built on the bones of a people who had to flee in the hundreds of thousands so that the racist Zionists could steal their property and destroy their villages, one may add. |
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| May-10-04 |
| square dance: <acirce> labeling a whole group of people racist makes you look ignorant. correct me if im wrong but hasnt that area of land changed hands more than once? |
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| May-10-04 |
| ughaibu: Square Dance: Almost all areas of land have changed hands more than once. |
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May-10-04
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| acirce: <square dance> Are "Zionists" a people? I thought they were adherents of a political movement. Now who is ignorant? |
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May-10-04
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| acirce: <hasnt that area of land changed hands more than once> Yes, it has. Arabs conquered it in the 7th century, for example. |
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| May-10-04 |
| square dance: <acirce> i think we are aware of which people make up the zionists and in fact the zionists are made up of a group of people so i dont understand how my statement is ignorant, where yours on the other hand is. if i called the black panthers a bunch of racists i think that would be a careless and ignorant statement. i MAY be right in saying that the majority of them were racist but that still does not fit with my original sentence. btw, next time you want to try and rub something in someone's face why dont you think a little first. come on acirce didnt anyone tell you that two wrongs dont make a right? |
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| May-10-04 |
| ughaibu: Square Dance: There are two solutions to the alphametic "wrong+wrong=right" given that : o=0, which it does (at least in the UK) in telephone numbers and the like. |
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| May-10-04 |
| square dance: <ughaibu> i'll give that some thought. |
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| May-10-04 |
| Minor Piece Activity: Is that a joke ughaibu? I don't get it. |
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| May-10-04 |
| ughaibu: Minor Piece Activity: It's an alphametic, a problem in which one works out which numbers are represented by which letters, it also shows that "two wrongs make a right", so it's part joke, part fun and part my usual taste in nonsense. |
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May-11-04
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| acirce: <square dance> Well, whatever. It is not ignorant to label a "group of people" racist if that group is defined in such a way that they actually are racist, i.e. "racist Nazis" or "racist Klansmen". Anyway I didn't express myself like in your example, but I talked about "racist Zionists" which doesn't mean that all Zionists are racists which, I admit, is somewhat debatable depending on definition etc. But the point was that the Palestinians were - and are - subject to one of the worst racist crimes against a people since the Holocaust. That was what was important in my post, not linguistic pettiness. |
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| May-13-04 |
| masterwojtek: I believe that some Jewish people have a minorirty complex. Ex.Everytime someone talks about them in any way, they accused them of being racist. On the other hand they are almost as aggressive as the Germans were in the 1940's ex. Palestine "problems" (and who is racist?) I now consider "Jewish" either someone who believes in Jahweh and is loyal to the place they live in and the religion they follow (their religion is very peaceful)or someone part of a political movenment who just calls himself Jewish but in reality is following some racist ideologies |
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| May-13-04 |
| Dudley: Alekhine, Karpov, and Capablanca were the only world champions who were not Jewish or at least partly Jewish by birth.(Fischer) |
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May-14-04
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| iron maiden: So Kasparov is partly Jewish? |
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| May-14-04 |
| Benjamin Lau: Yes. |
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| May-14-04 |
| Dudley: I may have forgotten Euwe but I'm not really sure about that. |
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| May-14-04 |
| Lawrence: <Dudley>, I know it's Fischer not you, but does he also include Petrossian then? Presumably that was stated by Bobby before Khalifman and Ponomariov appeared on the scene. Bill Clinton is also a Jew, according to RJF, btw. In fact, just about everybody is. Except him. |
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| May-14-04 |
| Dudley: I should clarify my previous post. The source was my own reading and what I meant was that Fischer had a Jewish mother. I see that Petrosian is Armenian and a native of Soviet Georgia. So, I may have been wrong about him, although it doesn't rule his being Jewish out. There is a book called The great Jewish Chess Champions published about 1987 or so that would settle the issue. Sorry for the appearance that I was quoting Fischer, it was unintentional. Anyway it's not that important, it's just interesting. |
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| May-14-04 |
| Dudley: Ok,I guess it does rule out Petrosian being Jewish because Armenia is a mainly Christian country. Enough said. |
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| May-14-04 |
| Dillinger: i believe that jewish chess world champions have a majority complex... |
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| May-15-04 |
| square dance: <acirce> well the main reason i didnt give you the benefit of the doubt is because of the way your post read. its not my fault that you wrote it that way. |
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Sep-08-08
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| sallom89: nice combination! |
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