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|Apr-18-07|| ||PEANUTS: Is 14.. Bh6 that clear? It could be that 14.. Qf5 is better. Black keeps a clear advantage after 15. Ng3 Rxg3 16. Bxg3 Qe4+, while the more critical 15. Ng5 Bh6 16. N1xf3 Nxf3+ 17. Nxf3 Bxd2 18. Nxd2 should see the queen dominate the white army, especially after the developing Bf5. In any event, this looks superior to the chosen move after 14.. Bh6 15. Qe2 Nd3 16. Qxd3 Rxd3 17. Bxd3 Qf4 18. Rd1.|
|Apr-18-07|| ||PEANUTS: After 20.Qc3 Bg7 21.Qb3 Bxd3 22.Qxd3 Qe1+ 23.Kc2 Qxa1 24.Qxf3 Qxb2+
25.Kd1 Qa1+ 26. Nc1 Bh6 27. Qa3 Rf8 28. Be2 b5!, Black should win.
For instance, 29. cxb5 c4 30. Kc2 Qe5, then 31. Rd1 Rf2 32. Kb1 Rxe2,
while 31. Rf1 Qe4+ 32. Kd1 Qxd5+ 33. Kc2 Rxf1 34. Bxf1 Qf5+ forces Bd3,
and 31. Bf3 Be3 and the f3 bishop goes. After 29. Kc2 Qe5 it is similar,
with 30. Re1 bxc4 31. Qc3 Qe4+ 32. Kd1 Qxd5+ and the pawns win, while
30. Rf1 Rxf1 31. Bxf1 Qe1 32. Bd3 b4 33. Qb2 Bxc1 34. Qxc1 Qc3+ wins.
I don't see how White can meaningfully vary before move 29.|
|Jul-03-08|| ||arsen387: 8..Ne5 could seem a little odd move from first sight moving the same piece twice in the opening but it really accomplishes much. It discourages 9.Nge2 (Nxc4) and 9.f4 (Ng4 trading his N for the whites strong LSB). 9.h3 tries to take under control the g4 square (to continue with f4 and now Ng4 isn't possible) but it weakens another square g3 and Nunn threatens to exploit that weakness with great 9..Nh5 and now f4 will be met with Ng3! Then 11..Rxf5 offering a piece for an attack against the uncastled K, I think no one but Nunn will do such thing. The rest is too much complicated for me because of the vast number of possible lines, but anyway it looks great.|
|Apr-03-09|| ||WhiteRook48: and not Nunn worse|
|May-03-09|| ||ROO.BOOKAROO: Nobody has mentioned that this game is included in THE WORLD'S GREATEST GAMES (112 of them) by Graham Burgess, John Nunn himself, and John Emms. This is game #78 in the collection, with a 6-page analysis. It also concludes after a 17-move-deep review that 20. Qc3 would have been the best defense for White instead of 20. Nec1.
Note that John Nunn is honored with a second game in this collection, game #104 John Nunn-Igor-Alexandre Nataf, French team Championship 1998/9, where however Nunn loses. Nunn vs I A Nataf, 1999|
|May-03-09|| ||Jim Bartle: Also one of the twelve games in Seirawan's "Winning Chess Brilliancies," his twelve favorite games since 1972.|
|Jun-10-09|| ||hedgeh0g: Nunn is/was a tactical genius.|
|Jul-01-09|| ||mjmorri: One of the few games played where almost every move is a pin, a sacrifice, or a hammer blow!|
|Jul-28-09|| ||offramp: Here is a similar game:
[Event "U.S. Junior Closed "]
[Site "(Milwaukee, Wisconsin"]
[White "Lenderman, Alex"]
[Black "Liu, Elliot"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 (5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 Nbd7 7. Qd2 c5
8. d5 Ne5 9. h3 Nh5 10. Bf2 f5 11. exf5 Rxf5 12. g4 Rxf3 13. gxh5 Qf8 14. Ne4
Bh6 15. Qc2 Qf4 16. Ne2 Rxf2 17. Nxf2 Nf3+ 18. Kd1 Qh4 19. Nd3 Bf5 20. Nec1 Nd2
21. hxg6 hxg6 22. Bg2 Nxc4 23. Qf2 Ne3+ 24. Ke2 Qc4 25. Bf3 Rf8 26. Rg1 Nc2 27.
Kd1 Bxd3 0-1 ♗eliavsky,A (2635)-♘unn,J (2615)/Wijk aan Zee 1985/MCL) 5... O-O
6. h3 Na6 7. Bg5 Qe8 8. Nd2 e5 9. d5 Nh5 10. g4 Nf4 11. Qf3 f5 12. gxf5 gxf5
13. Bxf4 fxe4 14. Ndxe4 Rxf4 15. Qg3 Nb4 16. Kd2 Qf8 17. Be2 Bf5 18. f3 Kh8 19.
a3 Bh6 20. Kd1 Na6 21. b4 c6 22. Kc2 Nc7 23. Rad1 a5 24. Kb3 axb4 25. axb4 b5
26. dxc6 bxc4+ 27. Bxc4 d5 28. Nxd5 Bxe4 29. Nxf4 Bxf4 30. Qe1 Bxc6 31. Rg1 Qf6
32. Qf2 Ba4+ 33. Kb2 e4+ 34. Kb1 Bxd1 35. Qa2 Bc2+ 0-1
|Sep-01-09|| ||aazqua: White's king side pawn moves are just ridiculous. First, weaken every dark square. Then waste time while your opponent develops. Finally, get the snot beat out of you.|
|Jan-24-10|| ||soothsayer8: what a solid whooping...It didn't help that white's play was pretty weak, but even still, black's play was brilliant by any standard.|
|Jan-24-10|| ||Jim Bartle: "It didn't help that white's play was pretty weak..."|
I don't see where white's play was weak, except for 11. exf5, and being surprised by 11...Rxf5? From that point on Nunn just whipsawed him and Beliavsky had no chance.
|Aug-06-10|| ||sevenseaman: Like a Panzer charge.|
|Dec-26-10|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: It was 25 years ago !! beautiful chessgames !!|
|Sep-01-11|| ||crazyedmen: what's wrong with 16 Nxf3?|
|Dec-13-11|| ||hedgeh0g: Good question. I fired up the ol' Houdini 1.5 and it actually prefers 16.Nxf3 to the text, giving White a (supposedly) small advantage.|
There are some tactics involved, however, i.e. 16.Nxf3 Nxf3+ 17.Kd1 (17.Ke2? Bf5) 17...Bf5 18.Bg3! (18.Bd3? Nd4! 19.Bxd4 Qf3+). Objectively, White probably has a slight edge due to being up an exchange for a pawn, but I think Black's activity should give him adequate compensation.
|Dec-13-11|| ||sicilianhugefun: I think this game perfectly illustrates the most efficient way on how to maintain the initiative up to its conclusion. Good work Dr. Nunn, you are among my favorite Chess book authors as well...|
|Dec-14-11|| ||qqdos: <offramp> here is that A Lenderman vs E Liu, 2009 game you quoted!|
|May-22-12|| ||recon: Why not 16...Ne2*f4???|
|May-22-12|| ||Jim Bartle: 17. Ne2xf4, you mean? Then 17...Rxc2.|
|Jun-06-12|| ||vinidivici: Why not 23.Qxc4....taking the knight????? why|
|Jun-06-12|| ||paulalbert: If I'm looking at the same position you are, Black's Q on h4 just takes the unprotected White Q on c4 after 23.Qxc4|
|Jun-06-12|| ||vinidivici: lololol maybe i was high or something i dont know. i didnt remember a thing.|
|Sep-09-13|| ||DrGridlock: <crazyedmen: what's wrong with 16 Nxf3?>|
Nunn's own annotations (from "The World's Greatest Chess Games") are:
"Or 16 Nxf3 Nxf3+, 17 Kd1 Bf5, 18 Bg3 Qe3, 19 Bf2 Qxe4, 20 Qxe4 Bxe4, 21 Bg2 Rf8 and Black already has one pawn for the exchange while the clumsy white rooks will be no match for his energetic bishops."
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Analysis by Komodo32 3 32bit(depth=22):
1. ² (0.66): 16.Nxf3 Nxf3+ 17.Kd1 Bf5 18.Bg3 Qe3 19.Qd3 Qxe4 20.Qxe4 Bxe4 21.Bg2 Rf8 22.a4 Nd2 23.Bxe4 Nxe4 24.Ra3 Bf4 25.Bxf4 Nf2+ 26.Ke2 Nxh1 27.Rf3 gxh5 28.Bg5 Rf7 29.Rxf7 Kxf7 30.Kf3 e6 31.Kg2 exd5
Where White has an advantage after all.
This game is filled with positions like this where the correct defensive resource (16 Nxf3 or 20 Qc3) just doesn't "look" right, but actually plays right.
|May-03-14|| ||kluto: When world class grandmasters play a game full of mistakes and oversights, it seems to automatically qualify as a "game of the century". It may be fun to watch, like blooper videos on youtube. I just hope that the young chess students do not take to it as an example.|
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