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| Dec-26-07 |
| Halfpricemidge: What about 14...Qh4? Was Spassky's 14...Rh1 just a tease? |
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| Dec-26-07 |
| D4n: Spassky played this end-game nicely. |
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Dec-26-07
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| FSR: <Larsen had not yet quite worked out how to play the opening that came to bear his name; here is how he did with it a few years later:> Huh, I was under the misimpression that Larsen had been extremely successful at first with 1.b3, then was crushed by Spassky when he tried it against him. This is the first time I'd realized that the Spassky game predated Larsen's success with the opening. |
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Dec-26-07
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| FSR: <Before the games started a lot of people were amazed that Fischer had agreed to Larsen's demand to be board one. After the games they must have been amazed that Larsen had insisted upon it.> This is not really a fair criticism of Larsen. Although this game is the one everyone remembers, Larsen actually scored 2.5/3 in his other three games. He scored a win and a draw in his other two games against Spassky, thus getting an even score in the three games they played. The Soviets then substituted Stein for Spassky in the last round, apparently fearing that Spassky, the reigning world champion, might lose that game, and thus the match, to Larsen. Larsen played very dubiously against Stein, who missed a forced win, but nonetheless Larsen won the game. Larsen's 2.5/4 on first board was not quite as good as Fischer's 3/4 on second board, but was nonetheless an excellent result. Recall too that Fischer had a bad score against Spassky at the time (+0 =2 -2), and also lost to Spassky later in the year at the Siegen Olympiad. Fischer may have been quite happy not to have to play against Spassky. Had Fischer played on first board, it is unlikely that he would have done better than Larsen did in that position; he might well have done worse. |
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| Dec-26-07 |
| nescio: <Huh, I was under the misimpression that Larsen had been extremely successful at first with 1.b3, then was crushed by Spassky when he tried it against him.> It wasn't a misimpression. He was: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... Only when he tried it against Spassky and Portisch, things went wrong, but I doubt if that had anything to do wth the opening. Anyone could lose with any set-up at any given day to Spassky or Portisch. |
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Dec-26-07
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| FSR: <What about 14...Qh4? Was Spassky's 14...Rh1 just a tease?> You should look at A.J. Goldsby's analysis, cited above. Citing Soltis, Emms, and Larsen himself, he concludes that 14...Qh4 15.Rg2 Qh1+ 16.Bf1 Bxg4 17.Qxe4 would allow White to resist, although Black is probably still winning after 17...Rhe8. By contrast, White is completely smashed in all lines after 14...Rh1!! |
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Dec-26-07
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| zanshin: <LMAJ: 11...h5!; Probably - '!!' A very subtle move.
(And a move not even picked by many of the strongest chess analysis engines. Also a move missed by MANY Masters!)> I don't know when this analysis was written, but Fritz 10 found 11...h5 at only 13-ply (on my comp, in about 20 secs). Needless to say, 12...h4 and 13...hxg3 were found even more quickly. And how's this for blasphemy? Fritz says Spassy did not play the best move in 14...Rh1! Bent Larsen - Boris Spassky, Beograd 1970
 click for larger viewAnalysis by Fritz 10 (20-ply):
1. (-12.07): 14...Bxe3 15.dxe3 Rh1 16.Rxh1 g2 17.Bd4 2. (-7.31): 14...Qh4 15.gxf5 Qh1 16.Rf1 g2 17.Nc3 Qh4+ 18.Kd1 gxf1Q+ 19.Bxf1 3. (-6.18): 14...Rh1 15.Rxh1 g2 16.Rg1 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Qh1 18.Qc1 Qxg1+ 19.Kc2 Qxc1+ 20.Bxc1 Be6 21.f5 Bxf5 22.Nc3 g1Q 23.gxf5 |
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| Dec-26-07 |
| nescio: <And how's this for blasphemy? Fritz says Spassy did not play the best move in 14...Rh1!> Blasphemy indeed. To paraphrase David Bronstein: However, it is hard for chess lovers to agree. Moves like 14...Rh1 are not easily forgotten. |
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Jan-10-08
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| FSR: <nescio> I agree with you in part: if Spassky had played the allegedly stronger 14...Qh4 and eventually won after 15.Rg2 Qh1+ 16.Bf1 Bxg4 17.Qxe4 Rhe8, this game would be a lot less famous, and a lot less beautiful, than it is. However, if Spassky had played the supposedly strongest line, 14...Bxe3! 15.dxe3 Rh1!!, the game would be no less famous or less memorable. |
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| Mar-28-08 |
| zev22407: I wonder if white plays: 10)Bxg7 R(h)g8 11)Q-b2
What is the best way for black to keep his initiative and attack? |
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| Apr-02-08 |
| candide1500: <rookattack> as an advocate of the nimzo-larsen myself, i can assure you that 0-0-0 is perfectly sound, and indeed one of whites biggest worries when playing this line. The dark squared bishop doesn't get to serve its original purpose (pressure on the kingside)and you often have to move it so that ur pawns have optimal piece support for an advance on the queen side. |
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| Apr-16-08 |
| devioustalfan: this opening looks similar to one of my brainchilds (as white or black) 1.e4 e5 2.d3 Nf6 3.c4 followed by 4.b3 5.Bb2 |
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Jun-29-08
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| Domdaniel: <devioustalfan> I hate to criticise because I believe that 'eccentric' openings should be encouraged (one of my own favorites begins with 1.Nf3 Nc6 2.a3 ... with which I've scored 2.5/3 against players with an average rating of about 2050) but ... there's a but. Your pawn structure puts too many pawns on white squares; meanwhile, the fianchettoed bishop on b2 will be hitting the dark squares, and these two don't go together well. With a Bb2 you want, ideally, to play moves like f4 that fight for the long diagonal. There are also some tactical problems. Play it as described and you could be lost almost before you start. For example: 1.e4 e5
2.d3 Nf6
3.c4 Bc5
4.b3?
actually loses: Black plays 4...Bd4 and white must lose material. OK, so you wouldn't continue with your b3 plan after 3...Bc5 -- but a plan that's so easy to derail is a dodgy one. Also, when facing passive moves like 2.d3 most black players hit back fast with ...d5, often not waiting for ...Nf6 to support it (as it lets you play c4, controlling d5). What you really need with this pawn structure is a bishop on g2, hitting the long diagonal and the white squares: try g3 and Bg2 instead, and watch out for tactics. Your b3 plan leaves too many holes on the dark squares and fails to fight coherently for the centre. Historically, btw, the b3 opening was used by Nimzowitsch in the 1920s: he used to play 1.Nf3 or 1.f4 (preventing ...e5 in either case, and hitting the dark squares); then playing 2.b3 to increase pressure on the a1/h8 diagonal. Then, about 40 years later, Larsen began to use 1.b3 without preparation. Its main drawback is that black can play 1...e5 and form a solid centre, but Larsen showed that this could be undermined. Ray Keene wrote a good book on both systems, called The Nimzo-Larsen Attack -- still the best on the subject, as far as I know. But if you insist on playing 1.e4, be careful about fianchettoing - you can get in a nasty mess with an open centre and slow development. But keep inventing anyway... |
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Jul-18-08
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| notyetagm: Black to play: 14 ... ?
 click for larger view14 ... h8-h1!!
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Sep-15-08
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| PinnedPiece: .
<===>
Guess the move
Score = 29
Par = 30
<===>
<notyetagm: 14...h8-h1> I agree is the most off-the-wall, out of nowhere, amazing, beautiful move. I especially enjoyed it while playing guess the move, because for me it was so unbelievable that I had to sit for many minutes trying to convince myself that it was even sane. In fact a brain has to be ticking near the edge of insanity to conceive of such a move. At any rate, I can only think that Larsen must have been almost as dumbfounded when Spassky played it. Is there any way at all to recover? Larsen certainly didn't find it. |
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| Dec-24-08 |
| WhiteRook48: why not just 18. Bxf1? I mean, even though you're still a piece down, why resign? I didn't resign a game when I was down two pieces and the two pieces were bishop pair.
WELL? I got a draw!!
Or is there some forced checkmate? |
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Dec-24-08
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| KingG: <WhiteRook48> Yes, there is a forced checkmate. 18.Bxf1 Bxg4+ 19.Kc1 Qe1+ 20.Qd1 Qxd1# |
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| Jan-07-09 |
| Goldengab: Well, I think Nimzo-Larsen attack is a good way to contrast theoretical play, is simple and not require a lot of preparation. Of course you cannot make mistakes, otherwise the advantage for Black becomes too much evident. I think here 4-e3 was better for the opening. |
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| Jan-07-09 |
| Granny O Doul: <WhiteRook48> Also, I am guessing that your opponent in said game was weaker than Spassky. |
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| Feb-18-09 |
| Jim Bartle: 18...Bxg4 and mate next move, I think. |
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Mar-06-09
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| WeakSquare: When did White go wrong in the opening? After 9...0-0-0, Black looks much, much better, almost decisively. Was it Nf3? What's the theory on the line? |
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| Apr-20-09 |
| D4n: This is a great game for Spassky. |
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Apr-20-09
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| parisattack: This is the 'reality check' game for anyone considering hypermodern openings. Its so easy to play passively, aimlessly - especially as white. |
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| May-01-09 |
| WhiteRook48: 16 Rg1 Qh4+ 17 Kd1 Qh2 18 Re1 h1=Q |
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| Jul-14-09 |
| echector: Bxe3 followed by Rh1 is simply better. |
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