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Wilhelm Steinitz vs Curt von Bardeleben
"The Battle of Hastings" (game of the day Sep-28-04)
Hastings (1895)  ·  Italian Game: Classical Variation. Greco Gambit Traditional Line (C54)  ·  1-0
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Nov-29-11  IRONCASTLEVINAY: all the whites pieces are under attack
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  Penguincw: The final position, I think.

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Mar-01-12  shepi13: Why do people keep saying that c6 was a bad move in earlier pages. It prevents Qxe7 Qxe7, Rxe7, Kxe7, Rxc7+, K moves, Rxb7, when white has two pawns for the exchange and should win more. I think it is only bad because of d5, which he couldn't have predicted.
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  shakespeare: from move 16 on it went downhill - Kf7 going out of the pin with an almost equal position but c6 gives white the opportunity to open lines for his rooks - bad positional mistake
Mar-14-13  IndigoViolet: Does anyone know what the time control at this event was?
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  thomastonk: <IndigoViolet: time control> I quote from the tournament book: "Thirty moves for the first two hours, and fifteen moves per hour afterwards."
Mar-14-13  FISCHERboy: <shepi13: Why do people keep saying that c6 was a bad move in earlier pages.>

It makes sense (Qxe7 Qxe7, Rxe7, Kxe7, Rxc7+, K moves, Rxb7 plus winning two pawns.)

Aug-12-13  LIFE Master AJ: My (updated) web page for this game:

My new "You-Tube" video for this game:

Aug-13-13  JoergWalter: <LIE Master AJ: My (updated) web page for this game> <15. Qe2!?, (Maybe - '!')
Is this the most aggressive here?
Kasparov questions this ... but his analysis is based on old analysis that was done by Igor Zaitzev. (But I have punched holes in that work.) [ Interesting is: 15.Qa4+!?, " " - Soviet Master, Igor Zaitzev. ]. >

<Nov-02-11 JoergWalter: Geller found the correct continuation 16.Ne5 to Zaitsev's 15.Qa4+ on the train Moscow to Murmansk 11-24-1983. Mainline: 15.Qa4+! Kf7 16.Ne5+! fxe5 17.Rxe5 Qd6 18.Qc4+! Kf8 19.Rae1 Ng8 20.Rd5 Qc6 21.Qb4! etc. (see also the Mammoth Book of The World's Greatest Chess Game >


<... But Nunn is also a hypocrite... >

So much for the "update" which happened according to your website <Game first posted on my web site, March 28th, 2002. (Last updated August 25th, 2003.)>

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  MarkFinan: This is so clever and smart especially the last few moves with the rook, and all the different lines to look at with whites rook being on c1, but how does 14.Re1 deserve an exclam when its the most natural looking move to anybody rated 1200+?? I wouldn't contemplate any other move.
Aug-21-13  JoergWalter: From the tournament book:

<This day sees Steinitz at his best. His game v. Bardeleben is a gem of the first water (afterwards awarded first prize for sound brilliancy), and the final picture is a chef-d'auvre of an old master.

Notes by Dr. Tarrasch.
[7. Nc3]' This move is mentioned by Greco, and Steinitz has again recommended it in his ' Modern Chess Instructor' ; this variation was also played by him against Schlechter in this Tournament.
[7....d5]' Schlechter here played Kt x K P, which is the correct move, following it up : 8. Castles, B x Kt ; 9. P x B, P to Q 4 ; 10. B to R 3 (Steinitz's ne *r move, on which the whole variation depends), B to K 3 ; II. B to Kt 5, Kt to Q 3, with an equal game.
[9....Be6]3 If Kt (or B) X Kt ; 10. P x Kt, B x P, White gets a dangerous attack by 1 1. B x P, ch, K x B ; 12. Q to Kt 3, ch, &c. [10.Re1]* The point of all the exchanges, as by this move White obtains command of the board, prevents Black from Castling, and initiates a most powerful attack on the King.
[16....f6]^ It would have been preferable to play the K to B 2, as White had then nothing better than 17. Q >
- Kt, ch, Q x Q ; 18. R x Q, ch, K X R ; 19. R X P, ch, followed by R x Q Kt P, and Black has still a prospect of a draw.
[17.d5]" A nice sacrifice of a Pawn, making way for the Knight to powerfully strengthen the attack.
[22.Rxe7+]' Here begins a grand combination. (See diagram.) [22....Kf8]* The position is most interesting, all the White Pieces being en prise. If K X R, then follows 23. R to K sq, ch, K to Q 3 ; 24. Q to Q Kt 4, ch, K to B 2 ; 25. Kt to K 6, ch, K to Kt sq ; 26. Q to K B 4, ch, and wins.
[25.Rxh7+]" The checks by the Rook are delightful, as Black cannot take with King or he loses his Queen with a check, nor can he take with Queen or he is mated.
[10 For now if K to Kt sq, Mr. Steinitz (at the time) demonstrated the following brilliant and remarkable mate in ten moves : 26 R to Kt 7, ch K to R sq (or if
K to B sq ; 27. Kt to R 7,
ch, &c.)
27 Q to R 4, ch K X R
28 Q to R 7, ch K to B sq
29 Q to R 8, ch K to K 2
30 Q to Kt 7, ch K to K sq
31 Q to Kt 8, ch K to K 2
32 Q to B 7, ch K to Q sq
33 Q to B 8, ch Q to K sq
34 Kt to B 7, ch K to Q 2
35 Q to Q 6, mate.]>
(the moves 7, 9,14, 16, 17, 22 and 25 in [...] were inserted by me)

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  MarkFinan: If there's a forced mate in 10 at the position black resigned, my engine can't find it! Got to a depth of 36plys and gives white +13.20. Strange.
Dec-21-13  maverickx: it says the mate can only be averted by ruinous loss of material; analysis follows: ...Kh8 25. Rxh7+ Kg8 26. Rg7+ Kh8 27. Qh4+ Kxg7 28. Qh7+ Kf8 29. Qh8+ Ke7 30. Qg7+ Ke8 31. Qg8+ Ke7 32. Qf7+ Kd8 33. Qf8+ Qe8 34. Nf7+ Kd7 35. Qd6#
Jan-13-14  CblP: I'm a bit newbie in chess, but why not 22.. Ke7 or Qe7? Don't see the reason after several minutes of deep thinking... What's the trick?
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  keypusher: <CblP>

22....Kxe7 23.Re1+ Kd6 24.Qb4+ Kc7 25.Ne6+ Kb8 26.Qf4+ (from JoergWalter's post)

22....Qxe7 23.Rxc8+.

May-21-14  NeoIndian: I am sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a forced Mate after 25...Qxh7? I mean, after such a dazzling display, it must be a little disappointing to have to explain in a dry voice: "...and now I win the king and knight endgame. In another twenty or so moves." :P
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  MarkFinan: <NeoIndian: I am sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a forced Mate after 25...Qxh7?>

According to the kibitzing here, yes. According to Stockfish. No! I don't understand it and I've said it before. Okay, QxR RxR RxR QxR and Qg8 and you have this...

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And Stockfish still can't find the forced mate!? #Puzzled

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  hoodrobin: Accordin to there is a predictable forced mate in n moves.
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  waustad: I got to the sqame place as <MarkFinian> but saw a simple to win endgame and considered that enough.
Dec-05-14  Tal1949: Very strange game all around. The Von got smashed the whole game and really had no right to be such a sore loser. If you play defense like that you deserve to lose. Simple.

And if he disliked Steinitz that much he should have continued. Modern chess engines show that 25...Qxh7 is the correct move. As <MarkFinan> shows the game goes on!

Dec-05-14  Tal1949: <waustad> True. The game was +6 after move 33 (see below) and would be won by a modern GM. However in Steinitz's day there were blunders everywhere. The Von should have played on. Unfortunately we will never see what might have happened.

25...Qxh7 26. Rxc8+ Rxc8 27. Qxc8+ Qg8 28. Qh3+ Kg7 29. Qd7+ Kh6 30. Nf7+ Kg7 31. Ne5+ Kh8 32. Ng4 Qf8 33. Qxb7 d4

Jun-30-15  alphamaster: If the game is +6 after move 33 it does not need a " modern GM" to win it. In fact even a " modern GM", playing black, would have resign against any average player.
Aug-24-15  KID Slayer: One of the funniest and greatest games ever, particularly with von Bardeleben's reaction to Steinitz's followup after the game. I especially like that stubborn rook invading on the seventh rank when threatened with a back-row mate.
Oct-31-15  JGoumas: Chess looks so simple, when a World Champion moves the pieces....
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  Phony Benoni: <"I like to think that this game was born of heroic circumstances. Steinitz had been toppled off his throne by Dr. Lasker. The old rivals over whome he had lorded it in Europe were at his heels, and the fresh generation, dealing shrewdly in his own tenets, had found that he wqs vulnerable. In that crisis Steinitz bravely fought two readguard actions at once, one in the traditional place. and one out ahead.

"Here the old monarch turns for a brief, casual, and glorious effacement of one of the pursuers.> -- William Ewart Napier, "Amenities and Background of Chess-play.

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